BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?

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shabadu84 said:
When's the last time Mourinho was genuinely enjoying himself? Inter probably, right? The Real days were always in the shadow of that Barca side, with plenty of internal politics. He did love the spotlight though. The 2nd run at Chelsea happened probably because he didn't get the United job and he seemed bitter for it. I could see him getting the United job now, with Guardiola to take on again, and being revitalized by the challenge.
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He hated his time in Spain. He won the league once but the whole experience really seemed to get to him. He ended up really hating Spanish football and yearning for English football big time. It was just so ironic and amusing that after highlighting his love for English football in such a big way, and making claims of being a "changed man" who wants to settle at one club for a long time, he ended up having that second season.

Anyway, hopefully he achieves that with us.

What I do hope is that he has learnt from his Chelsea experience. Man management is probably the single most important part of being a manager, and the fact that he allowed what happened at Chelsea, to happen, shows that he made some grave mistakes, that he can't allow to repeat.
 
If we get Mourinho, him being driven and motivated with new vigour is something I too have thought of just like some others here. One, he never failed in his 15 odd year career at big clubs like he did this season and he will want to correct it ASAP. Second, he has his arch-rival managing United's arch-rivals and he will want to get better of Pep this time. Third, it is a club which will give him more time as compared to Real or Chelsea and more authority, importantly.

It will be awesome to have a Mou with a point to prove.

On the other hand, I feel Pep won't like having Mou around. He prefers to have a world where he is able to do his own things in his own way and if possible without any outside factor influencing his work. Here that 'outside influence' which has riled him up in past will literally be 'next door.'

I hope Mou gets home just next to Pep's :D
 
The Man Himself said:
If we get Mourinho, him being driven and motivated with new vigour is something I too have thought of just like some others here. One, he never failed in his 15 odd year career at big clubs like he did this season and he will want to correct it ASAP. Second, he has his arch-rival managing United's arch-rivals and he will want to get better of Pep this time. Third, it is a club which will give him more time as compared to Real or Chelsea and more authority, importantly.

It will be awesome to have a Mou with a point to prove.

On the other hand, I feel Pep won't like having Mou around. He prefers to have a world where he is able to do his own things in his own way and if possible without any outside factor influencing his work. Here that 'outside influence' which has riled him up in past will literally be 'next door.'

I hope Mou gets home just next to Pep's :D
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I think it will be brilliant for the Premier League as well. With Spain hogging all the best football talent of late, having the best managerial talent in the PL will at least make up for it to an extent. And with Pep and Jose, they are genuinely rivals, if you look at their managerial careers. They're contemporaries, and the most successful of their generation.

While Pep isn't as individualistic in nature and probably prefers to shut the outside world out and focus solely on his craft, Jose is most definitely someone who is extremely conscious about his own myth/legend/persona/standing in the game, and as a result of the latter, as it did in Spain, it will get a bit confrontational and the rivalry will build up. Which will be brilliant for the league as well as the Manchester derby. What is necessary to back up that up, though, is both teams being of a decent standard. If for example we continue to struggle, it won't really work out to be much of a contest/rivalry.
 
Oh crap. I was looking forward of a triade made up of Giggs and the conquistadores from Bury
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I think it will be brilliant for the Premier League as well. With Spain hogging all the best football talent of late, having the best managerial talent in the PL will at least make up for it to an extent. And with Pep and Jose, they are genuinely rivals, if you look at their managerial careers. They're contemporaries, and the most successful of their generation.

While Pep isn't as individualistic in nature and probably prefers to shut the outside world out and focus solely on his craft, Jose is most definitely someone who is extremely conscious about his own myth/legend/persona/standing in the game, and as a result of the latter, as it did in Spain, it will get a bit confrontational and the rivalry will build up. Which will be brilliant for the league as well as the Manchester derby. What is necessary to back up that up, though, is both teams being of a decent standard. If for example we continue to struggle, it won't really work out to be much of a contest/rivalry.
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The PL may not be better than la liga per say, but I feel its far more exciting. There is not one PL team dominating everything, and if Leicester does win the league, the PL will nail its place has the most exciting league in the world
 
L'Equipe pretty much confirming what we have heard, they are reliable aren't they?

L'Equipe: Mourinho waiting for Woodward to have 'the guts' to sack LVG
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...iting-for-woodward-to-have-the-guts-to-sack-l

French newspaper L'Equipe on Tuesday go over Jose Mourinho to Manchester United in quite some detail, and all the various claims which have been made. Manchester United have been expected by many to appoint Mourinho at various points since he was sacked by Chelsea after a terrible start to the season.

Louis van Gaal's poor campaign for Manchester United, which could still them get Champions League football, has helped Mourinho's ambitions rise of moving to Old Trafford, and L'Equipe feel that's long been his aim, not just since he left Chelsea in poor circumstances.

L'Equipe, like many people, believe some of the claims will be correct and many wide of the mark, even those which seemed well sourced. Various sides are sending out slants to make themselves look good, without too much concern for what contains the most truth.

Manchester United supporters are keen for any news any so when El Pais at the weekend once again claimed Mourinho has signed a pre contract agreement with the Premier League club, it was taken as something brand new, despite them reporting similar in February and other Spanish outlets, just as reliable, saying similar for even longer.

Whatever is printed, L'Equipe are correct to say Mourinho will have to wait for one important thing to happen at Manchester United: Ed Woodward to have the guts to actually go through with sacking Van Gaal.

And if Woodward fancies giving Van Gaal longer at the club, Manchester United qualifying for the Champions League will certainly help him in that regard.
 
It seems clear that Mourinho is the main favourite to manage us next season, but I don't think it's been decided yet, and let alone two months ago. Things had a bad look at that moment, but you never know what could happen in football. It was difficult to imagine at that time, but what if the team had started playing better, reaching not 4th but even 3rd position thanks to a caprice of destiny, and winning the FA Cup or EL. Do you think Woodward was going to sack him in that situation? Either this, or committing himself to pay Jose 5 or 15 million pounds if we don't sign him, when he doesn't have any half decent option out there.

For Woodward, to sack LVG is like admitting he has failed and the last two years have been a loss of time. He won't do it if he has the chance, and he's not going to resign himself in February with 3 months ahead. I'm sure the club has been moving to cover its back, talking with different managers and evaluating options, but I don't believe this is done and dusted. If you see the pressure from the pro-Giggs camp this last week, for example, it suggests me that they know the match is still being played.

We shouldn't ignore the influence Sir Bobby and especially SAF have over big part of Manchester United entourage, even if they don't have the official power through the board. And signing Mourinho would be like an offense to the traditional sector of the club, which seems to be opposed to his appointment. My doubt is: has Woody the authority, the confidence on his own football knowledge, and the current version of Mourinho, to contradict frontally legends like Ferguson and his criteria?

I don't mean Fergie's always right, and his opinion is always the best. But I want to remark the difficulties of making a decision in that context from Woodward's position. It's easy to say "sack LVG, then hire Mourinho and that's all", but I have the feeling that things are not that simple and especially at our club.

Honestly, I don't even discard that Woodward is waiting for something that can justify sticking with LVG for the next season, so he can 'escape' by the middle road. Van Gaal is making it difficult with his poor management, but I think he still has a chance to manage us next season, even if it's small. If you see his reactions during our recent matches, I think he knows it and he's fighting for it. It seems difficult but 4th place and FA Cup, and he'll remain for the next season, zero doubts about it. I don't buy the "Mourinho is coming 100 %" thing.
 
We're gonna be called "Mou Utd" by the gutter press for the next 3 years...
 
One thing that I do like about the idea of Mourinho coming here -- we'll get to spend a lot of money again. No way Mourinho will accept not being given a warchest. We have plenty, and I'd rather it be on the pitch than in the Glazers pockets.
 
ShakeUnBake said:
One thing that I do like about the idea of Mourinho coming here -- we'll get to spend a lot of money again. No way Mourinho will accept not being given a warchest. We have plenty, and I'd rather it be on the pitch than in the Glazers pockets.
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You make it sound like we've been living on a pittance, we've spent a fortune!
 
Phil Osophy said:
It seems difficult but 4th place and FA Cup, and he'll remain for the next season, zero doubts about it. I don't buy the "Mourinho is coming 100 %" thing.
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I'm confident that we won't get 4th place (our recent form: 1 win out of the last 5 games) and that we won't win the FA Cup. Let alone, both.
LVG will find a way to screw it up. Only injuries can save him (just like they did when we won 4 in a row a few weeks back). And Rooney is available, I think a 7th place finish is likely. LVG is itching to dump Rashford and bring on a non scoring striker like Rooney.
 
sunama said:
I'm confident that we won't get 4th place (our recent form: 1 win out of the last 5 games) and that we won't win the FA Cup. Let alone, both.
LVG will find a way to screw it up. Only injuries can save him (just like they did when we won 4 in a row a few weeks back). And Rooney is available, I think a 7th place finish is likely. LVG is itching to dump Rashford and bring on a non scoring striker like Rooney.
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I think the same, I don't expect anything. But if we had the luck and the stars aligned, I don't think LVG was going to be sacked. So we can't say the Mourinho signing is a certainty when it depends on circumstances. Maybe I'm wrong but this is my impression at the moment.
 
It's ridiculous to think that scraping into top 4 could lose us Mourinho and ultimately end up with Fergie's puppet in charge.
 
sunama said:
I'm confident that we won't get 4th place (our recent form: 1 win out of the last 5 games) and that we won't win the FA Cup. Let alone, both.
LVG will find a way to screw it up. Only injuries can save him (just like they did when we won 4 in a row a few weeks back). And Rooney is available, I think a 7th place finish is likely. LVG is itching to dump Rashford and bring on a non scoring striker like Rooney.
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Seems harsh to label a guy who's our current top scorer this season and most likely soon to be the top scorer in the clubs history as 'non scoring'.
 
Devil may care said:
It's ridiculous to think that scraping into top 4 could lose us Mourinho and ultimately end up with Fergie's puppet in charge.
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I reckon the decision has been made regardless of final league position. Barring a series of very unlikely events that conspire to see us somehow winning the league title i think LVG is gone in May.
 
Could LVG become our DoF, Jose manage us and Giggy manage elsewhere to gain some experience?
Seems like a good alround solution.. Or is not that simple?
 
MV12 said:
Could LVG become our DoF, Jose manage us and Giggy manage elsewhere to gain some experience?
Seems like a good alround solution.. Or is not that simple?
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LVG and Mourinho together at a club like United would simply be asking for trouble.

The inevitable clash of egos would be too much.
 
Conspiracy theory-
United announce tour to china, there is no mention of LVG on a 3 page detailing document that the club have released. They dont even say things like Lvg's squad, or Lvg's men which are generally used.
 
Maradona10 said:
Conspiracy theory-
United announce tour to china, there is no mention of LVG on a 3 page detailing document that the club have released. They dont even say things like Lvg's squad, or Lvg's men which are generally used.
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Normally, doesn't LVG make a big deal about where we stay and what we do and how less we travel? Nothing of that sort this season
 
When do we think it will become obvious whether he will be our next manager or not?

It's hard to imagine the PL season ending on May 15 and still being none the wiser.

I'd expect there to be some sort of news mid-late April. Maybe if we lose to Spurs & West Ham, a touch earlier
 
Maradona10 said:
Conspiracy theory-
United announce tour to china, there is no mention of LVG on a 3 page detailing document that the club have released. They dont even say things like Lvg's squad, or Lvg's men which are generally used.
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That's not a conspiracy theory.
 
pseudo_canadian said:
LVG and Mourinho together at a club like United would simply be asking for trouble.

The inevitable clash of egos would be too much.
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DoF is a long term appointment, designed to give continuity over multiple managers. You don't hire a guy with 1 year before retirement.
 
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