BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Transfer rules means that we have to deal with the parent club first before we contact the manager/player leading to the 'subject to personal terms', but my understanding is that any deal entered prior to dealing with the parent club is generally considered not binding.
This time, there is no parent club and Mourinho is a free agent, so it could potentially happen. However, it would be very stupid for us to enter a deal with Mourinho promising him to confirm by May 1st when the season ends on May 15th. United may be rich, but they aren't that rich to piss away 5 Million.
You missed out Borthwick-Jackson who I have been particularly impressed with. Good perspective though. I think 3/4 good quality new signings turn the squad on it's head (in a good way). I would also let Fellaini move on and would like to see Blind in the midfield.
Speaking to my father on the subject yesterday, he brought up an angle i've not seen mentioned before, basically being, We all kjnow LvG & Mourinho are close.. in footballing terms, surely if there were nothing in all the repeated reports of a done deal over the last few months, Mourinho could/would attempt at some point to publically distance himself from the press claims due to not wishing to cause his friend and mentor LvG considerably more stress and concern than he'd already been under?
Regardless, it can't be nice to see a friend lambasted daily, with your own name repeatedly mentioned only adding to his woe's.
Regardless, it can't be nice to see a friend lambasted daily, with your own name repeatedly mentioned only adding to his woe's.
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Unless I'm not getting this right, confirming him on May 1 is not the same as announcing him so we could appoint him and sign the deal with him then and announce his appointment after the season has ended. For Woodward and the Glazers to agree to this it means as far as they are concerned the decision has been made already to hire him and it is simply out of respect to Van Gaal that they haven't announced it. Or it might be to give Woodward time to secure the buy-in of the dissenters.
The silence from both parties says it all, Mourinho will be here next season.
Yes, that makes some sense.
Just to play devil's advocate, though, Mourinho could be keener on the job than we are on hiring him. In which case it wouldn't make sense for him to come out in public and rubbish the rumours.
LVG for his part has stated in seemingly unambiguous terms that he'd be surprised (and disappointed) if Woody or the owners had been in contact with Maureen without informing him about this. Which is arguably a bit odd in this "they're great pals" scenario. Refusing to comment, or even repeating his "I have a 3 year contract" line in spite of being fully aware of what's really happening - out of disdain for the speculating journos - that I can easily see him doing. But the part about Woody and the owners - not so much.
Di Marzio put on a video "according to my sources Jose Mourinho is the next Manchester United manager, lets wait for the official announcement"
Could he not just write that?
Does that say Blue Moon in the background?!
The Blue Room
Get your glasses on mate.
Why do I suddenly think this isn't happening?
Help me out lads.
Help me out lads.
Yes, but I don't think it's all about his ego, it's also that as a manager he seems to be more and more about the mind games, the intimidation, the handbagging at the right moments, the cheating, the touchline drama etc, and less about the football itself. Of course things like that unfortunately are important sometimes, but you need a core of good football. Also those side dishes on his menu tend to get very boring and loose their effect.
Things have changed the last few years, that choice has become between playing young players and loosing things. You can't just go out and buy the players you want anymore, they already have a club, who pays them a fortune also, and is probably in a more attractive location. You have to buy players younger, and you have to grow your own or you loose out to clubs who do. Of course there will be opportunities to buy the odd star player and maybe even two in one season, but you can't build a great team like that, not anymore at least.
Pochettino dream is dead.
Why do I suddenly think this isn't happening?
Help me out lads.
Because LvG will be sat in the dugout come the first game of the 16/17 season.
excellent.
I have no idea. I was shocked by how often Mourinho used Fabregas in a midfield 2 instead of signing a decent CM to play with Matic and let Fabregas swan around and hit lovely passes like Sneijder did for his Inter side.
I remember posting last summer that Mourinho's first priority (apart from an LB to replace Filipe Luis, I guess) would surely be to sign a player with some mobility and passing skill to pair with Matic to replace Ramires/Mikel, since if you added up their minutes they basically played about as often as a single 1st teamer normally does (around 3K in minutes) and yet they were both painfully average and too old to improve. I figured someone like Kramer would just be plugged in.
Mourinho has obviously used both 4-3-3 (Chelsea 1st run, mostly Porto but he also used a diamond) and 4-2-3-1 (Madrid, Inter, Chelsea 2nd run). Actually, now that I look at it he seems to have favored the latter more in the last 5 years. Maybe Mata has a better chance to stick around than people think.
Your jokes are crap Steve.
Just keeping your ego in check after all them green laughing smileys man!
Because speculation of getting a new manager is a part of the three year process.Why do I suddenly think this isn't happening?
Help me out lads.
Pochettino dream is dead.
For now...
This Wilson hype needs to stop until he proves this as a first teamer. Everything you said is basically assessing him on qualities shown as a reserve. He's been above that level for about 18 months now, and for those who hadn't Wat he'd him against a load of players who will likely never make it as PL pros, your description of him is simply inaccurate.
It's like saying Cuba Akpom was a great striker or something on the basis of his form with Arsenal reserves. Or the likes of Afobe or Bamford. Wilson has it all to prove, many, many strikers have impressed at reserve level, it means nothing.
On topic anyway, I'm sure the youth player conversation will come up with Mourinho before hiring him. I'd like to think Rashford, Fosu Mensah and CBJ at the least can play a part next season.
Wilson is not hyped, he was when he got his debut and scored a brace, but it died Down with time. The problem is people are too quick to either hype or downplay a Young player after good or bad performances.
As with Wilson he has had alot of injuries, which has seen him not developing as much. As i was saying, him being out on loan doesn't mean he is less talented than Rashford.
What if Rashford have a few bad performances in the next couple of games and is sent out on loan next year? Is he one of our less talented players too?
Good post.
If he subsequently fails to impress at the loan club then it would at least suggest he's not kicked on in his development like we all hoped he would.
Duh duh DUH!
Done dealio.
Di Marzio isn't exactly what i thought he will look like
When's the last time Mourinho was genuinely enjoying himself? Inter probably, right? The Real days were always in the shadow of that Barca side, with plenty of internal politics. He did love the spotlight though. The 2nd run at Chelsea happened probably because he didn't get the United job and he seemed bitter for it. I could see him getting the United job now, with Guardiola to take on again, and being revitalized by the challenge.
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