Some people hope we lose so that LvG is fired and thats the reason. I really dont like that myself. We should always support our team regardless.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Some people hope we lose so that LvG is fired and thats the reason. I really dont like that myself. We should always support our team regardless.
I hope you're info is more concrete than the 'pre-contract' claimsDon't like hearing we have the option of pulling out. I like LVG personally, but he's been too inconsistent, so I hope the board take that into consideration..
To be fair, I know he has signed and I know its he who will be our new manager. The details about a pre contract is not something I know anything about.
It's obvious LVG will stay until the end of this season. Even if we get 4th he wil still leave
Then it's time for mourinho
Then it's time for mourinho
Seriously, I'm dying to know how you know this!
Are you actually Mourinho? Your name is 'acquire me'...
There's too much smoke in the Mourinho to United speculation for there not to be a fire. We have the reports from the BBC about talks which spawned this thread, the comments from Moratti, Di Marzio who many claim is a reputable journalist who essentially guarantees it's happening and now these latest reports about the pre contract. There seems to be an air of inevitability to it like Pep to city a few months ago before that was confirmed.
You seriously believe the Glazers would allow such a clause? Come on I thought you were smarter than that
City announced Guardiola as their next manager and their season has gone to pot ever since.
United have refused to confirm or deny anything about Mourinho, so our players are still playing for their futures.
That difference is a big part of what won us the game today. City have lost all focus in recent weeks. They should have wrapped the league up ages ago.
United have refused to confirm or deny anything about Mourinho, so our players are still playing for their futures.
That difference is a big part of what won us the game today. City have lost all focus in recent weeks. They should have wrapped the league up ages ago.
I'm sure he wanted the job. But it's possible he's already given his word to Chelsea or something. Maybe even signed a Pre contract that required HIM to pay 15m pounds if the deal was broken.
City had issues well before the announcement, they haven't won two league games in a row since September. The spine of the team is getting weaker with Kompany's injuries and Toure's age, while the new players they got haven't been able to take over yet - Sterling, De Bruyne who's injured, Otamendi.
I think it's an easy excuse to say a team isn't doing as well because they know the manager will be leaving. If they want to stay, shouldn't they make an extra effort, assuming Pep is looking at them? And forget the old/new manager, don't they want to win games and win trophies?
United's season suffered when Fergie announced his retirement first time around. The second time, he waited till we had the title more or less in the bag. Player psychologies aren't always that logically determined.
My thoughts on this exactly but I think its more an agreement between Woodward and LVG on whats the best approach to see out the season before LVG goes.
I'm sure he wanted the job. But it's possible he's already given his word to Chelsea or something. Maybe even signed a Pre contract that required HIM to pay 15m pounds if the deal was broken.
It's possible sure but i reckon Fergie might have told Mourinho he was retiring half way through 2012-13, but maybe didn't tell him Moyes was going to replace him.
Sounds like we're giving LvG the dignity to finish up the year irrespective of results, with the knowledge that Jose is joining in the summer. Otherwise, there is no way we would be allowed to languish outside the top 4.
Silence speaks so loudly, especially at times like this
will be interesting what Giggs role will be under Jose.
I agree with the last statement. But I don't believe United's issues had anything to do with Fergie's retirement. Selling Stam, trying to find a spot for Veron and moving Scholes to a different role while trying to play 4-5-1 were the real problems. Once we got back to 4-4-2 with Ruud and Ole upfront, everything changed.
Hopefully he leaves with van Gaal. As part of 2 failed management systems he needs to go and ply his trade somewhere rather than hanging around again.
But will he have a role?
Of course, when it suits us, United denying things can be seen as a sort of confirmation.
honestly lads, I don't know how much of an impact he has had on tactics, the team selection.
I hope he does go and manage a team...perhaps even in the Prem.
Then..after Jose, who knows.
I hope he does go and manage a team...perhaps even in the Prem.
Then..after Jose, who knows.
Why would he even? I'd assume Jose would want Faria as his number 2.
I don't mind Giggs staying on and tbh working under Mourinho would only add to his growing experience in management, not sure the Moyes approach of getting rid of everyone was a good idea and same applies if Jose comes in
I'd like Giggs to stay on as a coach regardless of who is in charge.
Jose wouldn't bring in a bunch of second raters to be fair.
Rashford has just made one of the most experienced defences in the Premier League look foolish. I imagine he'd have a future under Mourinho.
The ones who might be vulnerable would be the less obviously talented ones, notably Lingard, McNair and Wilson. But are they really likely to make it at United anyway?
I totally agree with what you're saying btw. The only good thing we've seen from LVG is the promotion of young players, and it would be bonkers to waste that. I don't think Mourinho will do that though, provided the players are good enough.
Exactly, City's season has been a disaster and they must be ruing the decision to announce the appointment of Guardiola. Hilarious really, I bet they were beside themselves with glee when they did it, thinking about how gutted United would be.
It didn't work for Moyes because he got rid of a winning and settled coaching staff for a bunch of nobodies like Round and Neville with little or no experience at the top level. Oh and also for some reason Jimmy Lumsden who i'm still convinced didn't actually do anything.
Jose would only be replacing a failed set-up.
Giggs needs to either give up on wanting to be United manager and become a youth coach at United or something or go somewhere else and prove himself as a manager in his own right. Ridiculous that he would even be considered for the United job having never even been an actual manager.
Sorry, but i just have to ask how you can say Wilson is less talented?
The guy is lethal and have a fantastic drive with the ball. Him being out on loan doesn't mean he is less talented than Rashford.
The terms of reference for Mourinho will I believe involve buiding and growing the Youth system.
I think Mourinho won't have a problem playing some of the younger players who have been stepping up this season. I think he won't really have a problem if they have already shown their worth, which some have. I think the main thing he wouldn't do that Van Gaal has done is actually give young players their very first chance.
Out of interest how many players do you all think Mourinho needs to bring in to get United competing for the league next year? No doubt he'll have a good amount of money available to spend.
we may not need to bring a wing back. But I would agree with the rest.
Goalkeeper? Or do you think De Gea will stay?
Yeah, I'd rather Giggs went into a different role at United under Jose, but he might think that's beneath him now. Best would be to leave and prove himself, but I imagine he's scared of making a mess of it and blowing his chances at managing United one day.
This has been done to death and the general consensus seems to be 3-4, not including if DDG goes.
This has been done to death and the general consensus seems to be 3-4, not including if DDG goes.
Completely agree with this.
To be fair to LVG he's done the hard part which is stick his neck out to give all these lads a chance. Mourinho won't go out of his way to end United careers for players like Rashford Varela Lingard and others, because what he has there are ready made back up players allowing him to spend his budget on essential first team players.
My belief is he will be gone under LVG but if he saw some ambition by appointing Mourinho, I'll squint all summer hoping I hear nothing about him leaving
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