No idea but, as much as I love the guy, he's come out with some right porkies over the years. Some that just make you smile
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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No idea but, as much as I love the guy, he's come out with some right porkies over the years. Some that just make you smile
This power struggle reported is what red issue said a while back yeah?
Anyway I actually believe fergie has a problem with him. Just too many things add up and it is becoming obvious tbh. He would have replaced fergie had fergie thought so high of him for sure... And when mourinho was on the brink of being sacked by Chelsea this time, it was fergie that tried persuading roman it would be a mistake to let him go.
Now why the feck would he do that if potentially we can profit from it? Because it puts a spanner in giggs taking over that's why.
Anyway I actually believe fergie has a problem with him. Just too many things add up and it is becoming obvious tbh. He would have replaced fergie had fergie thought so high of him for sure... And when mourinho was on the brink of being sacked by Chelsea this time, it was fergie that tried persuading roman it would be a mistake to let him go.
Now why the feck would he do that if potentially we can profit from it? Because it puts a spanner in giggs taking over that's why.
Mourinho is the only single possible ray of light surrounding the darkness that is United's current situation.
We are in an absolute state. Thank feck Mourinho is out there, willing and able to fix our pathetic squad.
We are in an absolute state. Thank feck Mourinho is out there, willing and able to fix our pathetic squad.
Did Yorke really say Jose is too old and Moyes was the right man?
He is going to sink villa right into the 2nd division with that horseshit judgement.
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Yep. He also said Mourinho WAS a great a manager but, now it's Giggs' time
He also backed Moyes quite a bit. Old boys club and all that
The worst part is that we got Jose essentially by default. We are one of the few few top clubs now without an elite coach and he just happened to be free. I believe if it the board was left to their own devices giggs would be our next coach.
It seems that the board has to be saved from themselves. It doesn't bode well for our long term future IMO.
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Yep. He also said Mourinho WAS a great a manager but, now it's Giggs' time
He also backed Moyes quite a bit. Old boys club and all that
Even though I am Trinidadian it is seriously hard to support yorkie sometimes.
Pre-contracts aren't unusual in football, especially at the top end. 15m is a hell of a penalty clause but we did start negotiating months ago and there may be lots of other clauses and conditions in there as well.
Incidentally the Diego Torres article is:
http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes.../1458411442_468100.html?id_externo_rsoc=TW_CM
Incidentally the Diego Torres article is:
http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes.../1458411442_468100.html?id_externo_rsoc=TW_CM
Not his fault I don't think.
It's all a bit odd/weird how Robson, Yorke, Vidic, Scholes, Savage and someone else, all came out talking Giggs up as the next manager this week. Very peculiar
There could be some truth in that. With LVG we have Giggs supposedly being groomed as a future manager but if Mourinho comes in, I can't see him keeping Giggs so SAF loses power over football matters to Woody and Mourinho
But does SAF honestly feel that giggs is the man to take over and lead our club against the likes of ponch, pep, klopp, Arsene and conte?!
That's the type of logic he used when he thought Valencia could replace Ronaldo....surely he has lost it if that is the case. It's the blind leading the blind in the boardroom these days
I will never understand this, even if he is trying to get some sort of influence on the pitch, doesn't he realize what is at stake and Jose is a proven winner? Does he not care about the club?
I lost a bit of respect for scholes when he said that, but Neville was the same when talking about MUFC and leading the "give Moyes more time" brigade... it's like they have blinders on.
It seems that sentiment towards their old club really clouds their judgement.
The original story (a few weeks back) was that we'd asked him to wait (ie: not sign for anyone else) for a few months because we hadn't confirmed that we were going to sack LvG and that we wouldn't take that decision before the season competitions were resolved. I guess Mendes went into show-me-the-money mode and then the "or other options" comment got thrown in as well.
They (Fergie/Charlton) are not done yet.
This time, they want to bring in a manager who has never managed before. A rookie. A trainee.
Something tells me that Fergie wants to appoint people over whom he can have influence.
But does SAF honestly feel that giggs is the man to take over and lead our club against the likes of ponch, pep, klopp, Arsene and conte?!
That's the type of logic he used when he thought Valencia could replace Ronaldo....surely he has lost it if that is the case. It's the blind leading the blind in the boardroom these days
I will never understand this, even if he is trying to get some sort of influence on the pitch, doesn't he realize what is at stake and Jose is a proven winner? Does he not care about the club?
I honestly think that with the likes of Moyes and Giggs/Class of 92 at the club, Fergie would have retained a lot of control and power. Those people look up to him. They'd be asking for his help, advice and directions on a constant basis.
With Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola etc, they are not going to want Fergie sticking his nose in. They are their own men, so Fergie inevitably would lose some sort of control/power. The amount of ex players coming out this week beating the Giggs drum was baffling. There has to be something behind that. All of them Fergie's boys and one of Giggsy's mates. The timing of it too was awful.
If, and I mean if, it's all true, I can understand Fergie not wanting to lose control. It must be difficult to let go but, we're just repeating the mistakes of 46 years ago. Charlton however, I don't know what he's on about. The behaviour of certain ex managers and certain ex players has been just as bad as Mourinho.
Not sure his statement was 100% as Giggs camp. If remember correctly was more like what could people find as positives regarding Giggs and same thing regarding Jose.
I know SAF has an ego and that's ok, but if all this is true then he values his ego over the well being of the club and I find that so disappointing, I always thought he put the club first.
So how did he feel when LVG was appointed? I doubt LVG ever asked him for advise and I don't think he has any influence over him either.
Up to today, the fact that he chose Moyes over Jose still haunts the club.
When you line up their CV's side by side it is shocking to a ludicrous point. You would think he would have learned his lesson.
Imagine winning at Anfield under Mourinho and this happening
Not always........
As for LvG, Giggs was/is still there. No one thought LvG would be a failure so Giggs being handed the job after 3 years was gonna happen
Imagine winning at Anfield under Mourinho and this happening
I dream of that day Rossi my friend...it cannot come soon enough!
Maybe you are right, didn't he get pissed off over some horse and and it lead to the glazers getting a majority share in the club, which led to the takeover?
Yup....that turned out great, didn't it?
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Did anyone bother reading the Vidic article? He said Mourinho would be a great choice also.
He was giving his first interview after retirement.
It's hard to believe United would enter such an agreement and then choose Giggs instead.
If true, this suggests 2 options:
1. Hire Mourinho
2. Keep LVG and pay Jose £15m.
It's a tough call in fairness!
If true, this suggests 2 options:
1. Hire Mourinho
2. Keep LVG and pay Jose £15m.
It's a tough call in fairness!
Yeah, true.
Still though, just peculiar how all of them came out with it, at the same time and the timing of it was highly wrong
It's happening!!!
I believe that when Moyes was fired and LVG hired, Fergie was cut out of the loop.
I remember him saying that he found out about the Moyes firing, from the media...just like you and me.
LVG was a short term solution, so I think Fergie accepted that Giggs gets an apprenticeship and takes over in 3 years.
If Jose arrives, he'll boot out Giggs so quickly, Giggs won't know what just happened.
Jose is all about winning, so he will put a team (and backroom staff) in place that he believes can help him win trophies. Giggs does not fit that bill. In fact, after the last few years, nobody actually know what Giggs does, apart from stand by, while LVG hangs himself. I mean does Giggs not offer LVG any advice? And if he does, the fact that we are still sinking, should deter us from putting this guy in charge.
Imagine winning at Anfield under Mourinho and this happening
I think that's more likely to happen against Guardiola's MCFC.
Jose will be thinking to himself, "this time Pep, you don't have the best player in history in your team".
I'll be honest, I didn't even have to unzip..... I came.
Would be even funnier if we signed Messi.
Does Powerpoint presentations on opponents. Can imagine they are thrilling
But seriously, I am quite shocked Giggs is putting up with the crap that we put on the pitch, week in and week out.
This is such a tease, saw this on twitter whilst half asleep and almost jumped. Damn gossip column!
Trying to find out whether Diego Torres (the journo cited in the tweets above) is legit or not.
This is what a Real Madrid fans' forum says about him:
An important figure in the fight against 'raulismo' (the cult of Raul), this Argentine journalist was one of the few who denounced the intrigues of the 'great captain' in the dressing room and decried his noxious influence in the club. Nevertheless, once 'raulismo' had been curbed, Torres seemed solely preoccupied with promoting footballers from his country, and completely lacked objectivity. Due to his nice writing style, he can disorientate Real Madrid fans. Avoid him.
http://www.fansdelmadrid.com/periodistas-amigos-y-enemigos/
This is what a Real Madrid fans' forum says about him:
An important figure in the fight against 'raulismo' (the cult of Raul), this Argentine journalist was one of the few who denounced the intrigues of the 'great captain' in the dressing room and decried his noxious influence in the club. Nevertheless, once 'raulismo' had been curbed, Torres seemed solely preoccupied with promoting footballers from his country, and completely lacked objectivity. Due to his nice writing style, he can disorientate Real Madrid fans. Avoid him.
http://www.fansdelmadrid.com/periodistas-amigos-y-enemigos/
not sure if posted so:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...nchester-united-pre-contract?CMP=share_btn_tw
Not sure what to think to be honest....not the biggest fan even though i rate him very highly(top 3 or 5) but we fecked it up so he is probably our only good option left.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...nchester-united-pre-contract?CMP=share_btn_tw
Not sure what to think to be honest....not the biggest fan even though i rate him very highly(top 3 or 5) but we fecked it up so he is probably our only good option left.
Also worth noting that El Pais is one of Spain's heavyweight papers and is a general newspaper rather than a sports rag like Marca or Mundo Deportivo. They wouldn't go to the wall with this story unless there was good reason, methinks.
I remember when Fergie announced his retirement and Jose's Madrid came to OT and beat us. After the match, Jose was very complimentary about MUFC and I honestly felt that we were the next club he would manager.
Then came the bombshell that Moyes was our new manager. I actually thought it was a joke...but it was for real.
I could not understand how or why this decision was made and I knew full well that he was out of his depth.
The Glazers letting £15m go because we change our mind on the manager . Yeah right.
. Yeah right.It's hardly as if he didn't back dozens of managers over the years. Nothing to see here.
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