BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?

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BennyBlanco said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...by-his-own-team-mate-eden-hazard-8946578.html

It's like you can absolve Fergie for Pogba leaving, by saying he didn't want to let the player leave either, but the fact is.... he didn't play him...

Ditto Mourinho with both Lukaku, i.e. sending him out on loan the first season when he lacked a decent no.9 at all that first year, then buying his man Costa in the summer and letting a younger Lukaku leave.
And then De Bruyne, he hardly played him, opting to play Andre Schurrle instead, then binned him, bought Salah... binned him too, bought Cuadrado for huge money, then Pedro for the flanks, its like a comedy of errors.
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De Bruyne did actually play. He started the season when he arrived, but Oscar was better. He also wasn't helping himself by not bothering in training. He'd get away with that under Pellegrinni. I'm not sure Pep will stand for that though.

Lukaku wasn't given a chance by the previous managers. You do realise he was there for three seasons before Mourinho arrived.

They signed De Bruyne a year and half before Mourinho arrived. Did anybody give him a chance before Mourinho?

Also Schurrle was actually better than De Bruyne at that time if you actually followed Bundesliga. And lots of people on here wanted us to sign Cuardrado and Pedro. In case you ain't forgotten.
 
This is great to watch,first there was a waving card of 120 goals at RM as proof that he doesnt park a bus and his style of play is entertaining one (even he got slated here for same thing,saying how its boring etc.). Now people trying to paint that cnut as someone who always had tones of trust in young players,how he gave tones of chance to players from youth setup (or he didnt do that because Chelsea players from youth ranks arent good enough,even they were winning things in a row on that level),epic shit i must say.
 
R'hllor said:
This is great to watch,first there was a waving card of 120 goals at RM as proof that he doesnt park a bus and his style of play is entertaining one (even he got slated here for same thing,saying how its boring etc.). Now people trying to paint that cnut as someone who always had tones of trust in young players,how he gave tones of chance to players from youth setup (or he didnt do that because Chelsea players from youth ranks arent good enough,even they were winning things in a row on that level),epic shit i must say.
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How many Chelsea or Real Madrid managers have given youth a chance in the last 10 years?
 
R'hllor said:
This is great to watch,first there was a waving card of 120 goals at RM as proof that he doesnt park a bus and his style of play is entertaining one (even he got slated here for same thing,saying how its boring etc.). Now people trying to paint that cnut as someone who always had tones of trust in young players,how he gave tones of chance to players from youth setup (or he didnt do that because Chelsea players from youth ranks arent good enough,even they were winning things in a row on that level),epic shit i must say.
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They didn't say he gives chances to kids from his youth setup, but if a young player is available, most of which were bought, he does not worry about playing them. Also just because you win the F.A. Youth Cup does not mean you will produce loads of players from it. Most end up down the leagues. You might get the odd one.
 
Bojan11 said:
De Bruyne did actually play. He started the season when he arrived, but Oscar was better. He also wasn't helping himself by not bothering in training. He'd get away with that under Pellegrinni. I'm not sure Pep will stand for that though.

Lukaku wasn't given a chance by the previous managers. You do realise he was there for three seasons before Mourinho arrived.

They signed De Bruyne a year and half before Mourinho arrived. Did anybody give him a chance before Mourinho?

Also Schurrle was actually better than De Bruyne at that time if you actually followed Bundesliga. And lots of people on here wanted us to sign Cuardrado and Pedro. In case you ain't forgotten.
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He played Oscar over 2x Chelsea PoY Mata atthe number 10 spot, calling him "His no.10". Schurrle got the nod on the right usually or up top (when they didnt have a striker, while the bloke he let go on loan Lukaku was banging in goals for someone else) instead of De Bruyne on either position.
Yes Lukaku was there a couple years before, the difference being, he'd just become the hottest young striker in the Premier League after his season at West Brom, instead of building a team around him, he bought in his own ready made man in Costa and let Lukaku leave without ever giving him an opportunity.
De Bruyne was on loan the season before Mourinho anyway.

No idea how you can absolve Mourinho of those choices.

Also the last point Cuardrado and Pedro the caf wanted them eh? this place.. :D , the place who thought last season.... Lukaku was rubbish, Barkley is the typical overrated Englishman, Kane was a 1 season wonder among other things, ya i'm going to take the opinions of this place super serious.
 
Bojan11 said:
How many Chelsea or Real Madrid managers have given youth a chance in the last 10 years?
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Go check yourself,or dont,because it has feck all to do with JM and him having 0 trust in youth/young players/players coming from own ranks.
 
If a youth player is good enough and can strengthen the first team then any manager would promote him. Chelsea have a sugar daddy who just wants to win at any cost, we have a tradition which promotes within so Jose will know this and I think he is clever enough to adjust his buying tactics to get the mix right.

We need a manager who can win trophies as a priority over the youth policy, with Giggs your getting a inexperienced manager will promote within for the sake of it....
 
DomesticTadpole said:
They didn't say he gives chances to kids from his youth setup, but if a young player is available, most of which were bought, he does not worry about playing them. Also just because you win the F.A. Youth Cup does not mean you will produce loads of players from it. Most end up down the leagues. You might get the odd one.
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Give some time,they will start saying things like that,next step is saying how Rui Faria is a great classy person.Anyway it doesnt matter if that cnut becomes next United manager,its just funny to see how people shitting bricks when some article about LvG staying pop up.
 
peridigm said:
Questions for proponents of youth in the first team. Who is the last player(s) from the youth academy to break into the first team and become a mainstay for more than 1-2 seasons. Who have we sold for reasonable profit from the youth academy? Where are they now? Who did we deem not good enough that has gone on to be a good player elsewhere excluding Pogba?

These are reasonable questions and I'm not trolling.
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Isn't there like 2-3 of them in the normal Leicester starting 11?
Atleast in their squad.
 
Sandikan said:
These papers should be fined for their BS articles. You can't go from "he's signed a pre-contract" to "he's resigned to not getting it" in a week.

Sh!Trag
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That's modern sports journalism. You make up BS, and if you can't hold on to it you just invent some more BS about how something had changed in between.

But the real problem is of course that people ar willing to believe anything that suits them.
 
If Jose had been brought in during December, given the state of the league this year, I honestly think we've had won it.

Just diabolical management.
 
I can't wait for him to come and get rid of all the underachievers and we've got a hell of a lot of them

Jose wouldn't stand for the dross our players serve up
 
All 3 United said:
If Jose had been brought in during December, given the state of the league this year, I honestly think we've had won it.
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I said this at the time, agree now, and will maintain it forever.

Terrible, terrible decision making from the club.
 
All 3 United said:
If Jose had been brought in during December, given the state of the league this year, I honestly think we've had won it.

Just diabolical management.
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Hilariously nonsensical comment seeing that "the state of the league this year", "during December", was mainly defined by the reigning champions heading towards the relegation zone with Mourinho in charge.
But yes, you surely would have won it with him... diabolical management... :wenger:
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Hilariously nonsensical comment seeing that "the state of the league this year", "during December", was mainly defined by the reigning champions heading towards the relegation zone with Mourinho in charge.
But yes, you surely would have won it with him... diabolical management... :wenger:
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He had lost the dressing room, mainly due to an issue with the club bloody physio. The guys a winner and he would have been a winner with a point to prove.
 
Yep, that succession plan of Giggs is a great idea.

The guy is a part of this failure. Full clear out required.
 
Get Maureen in. He'll fail miserably and leave the club in a mess after 3 years, but the excuses this place comes up for why he isn't at fault for everything Van Gaal has been will be absolute gold.
 
Should have been here back in December, agree with the sentiment today, this entire season has been a write off past november.
 
Call it whatever you like - boring, pragmatic, uninspiring. Jose generally prefers powerful, athletic, counter-attacking football.

Give me that any day over this shite or anything Giggs is going to attempt.
 
However shit people think he football may be I honestly don't think he'd have surrendered like we did today after the red card. At this point he is my only real hope is us getting back to where we were.
 
LonelyFire said:
Yep, that succession plan of Giggs is a great idea.

The guy is a part of this failure. Full clear out required.
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The regrettable truth. You don't keep part of a failed management team. Let alone being part of two!

He needs to go and manage somewhere else, or settle for some lower level role here if he just wants to stay at United. I fear it's too late for that option though.

Giggs succession would only have worked if VG had stormed it, and we wanted more of the same.
 
I had started to soften my stance towards LvG after that run of four wins. Not just because of the wins, but because of the young lads coming into the team. I'd be worried that this element would be ignored by Mourinho. But this match has just reminded me why I want LvG gone. Again, not just because of the result - losing when a man down is not the end of the world - but because of the manner of the defeat.

At this point, appointing Mourinho and hoping he doesn't completely neglect the academy is better than sticking with LvG and hoping he can deliver quality.
 
Unless we produce some Europa magic, which is now complicated by having two massive grudge games v Pool, then we're back to Square Sh!t, needing to attract top players without the top competition to offer them.

Mourinho is probably one of the best 2 or 3 in the world for pulling power, so that'll have to be our reliance.
 
Dobba said:
Get Maureen in. He'll fail miserably and leave the club in a mess after 3 years, but the excuses this place comes up for why he isn't at fault for everything Van Gaal has been will be absolute gold.
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Seeing you implode on seeing him as our manager would be twice as much fun.
 
Dobba said:
This list of things we're 'hoping' he won't do is looking rather lengthy for someone who is to be given the biggest job in football.
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LvG's been here 2 years and, apart from a willingness to play kids, the only reason for keeping him is 'hoping' something clicks. At this point the logical question is Mourinho or someone else? Because keeping van Gaal shouldn't really be a consideration. Questionable transfers, routinely awful substitutions, dull football and poor results. I'd take my chances with Mourinho and the list of hopes than LvG and the list of failures.
 
Dobba said:
Get Maureen in. He'll fail miserably and leave the club in a mess after 3 years, but the excuses this place comes up for why he isn't at fault for everything Van Gaal has been will be absolute gold.
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Makes me laugh how posters like you can even make comments like this based on the current state of the club. What is your solution then, I'm curious to know?
 
Sandikan said:
The regrettable truth. You don't keep part of a failed management team. Let alone being part of two!

He needs to go and manage somewhere else, or settle for some lower level role here if he just wants to stay at United. I fear it's too late for that option though.

Giggs succession would only have worked if VG had stormed it, and we wanted more of the same.
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I agree. It would have made sense but idea of appointing him on the back of this is beyond ridiculous. I do not understand anyone wanting Giggs anywhere near the managers position after what's happened.
 
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