BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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I don't like it when people say that others "aren't really fans" but anyone slagging Fergie off or saying he doesn't care about the club really aren't fans and are obviously more interested in the glory of supporting a winning side or getting the bragging rights over their mates rather than actual true supporters of the club.

It matters not where you live, or how many times you go to OT, if at all, but what DOES MATTER is that you support your club through thick and thin. You take the rough with the smooth. Obviously people have the right to moan and criticise, and I think they should, because it is healthy to do so, but to slag off and be so disrespectful towards the club, players past and present, and especially SAF is not on in my book. Sir Alex made many mistakes, he is not above criticism, nor should he be, but some of the vitriol showed towards him is beyond disrespectful. Those so called fans can feck off as far as I am concerned and have absolutely no idea what supporting a club (any club) is all about. They should do us all a favour and feck off to Support Celtic or Barca or whoever else is almost guaranteed to win something every single year.

Yep. Also, people complain about how shite Woodward is and lament how his influence should be restricted to just commercial matters (may or may not be true, hard to know really). People complain about Fergie, Bobby and Gill and say they should have no influence. People just love to moan I suppose is what I'm getting at. Fecking tedious as feck though.
 
The besGet interest for the club is a world class manager. We had one and then replaced him with Valencia and Michael Owen, just like our previously shit transfers. Once we have hopefully Mourinho in place we will look threatening again. Our squad is actually top 3, the job at hand it not difficult for the right guy.

One made the point earlier posts about our peak years at the top in 07/08, and things started to decline from 2008 onwards, and compared to how Barcelona kept to the top its light and day. That I partly agree with, why have Barcelona kept on top with trophy's and the quality of the football? it is simple, they kept messi, we could not keep ronaldo, and the way we prepared for his departure was god awful we turned into a mediocre club, now we are a laughing stock. A few names summed up the preparation for ronaldo's departure, Berbatov, owen obertan and valencia, that said it all. What did Barcelona do? they kept messi, while stars like toure, henry and eto'o left between 2009 and 2010, they won 2 la liga titles and a CL with toure and eto'o, they signed zlaten that did not work out, sold him the next season. They had pedro, and Villa was brought in, they had a good run all built around the magic of messi, xavi, iniesta, and sergio and won another CL and la liga title. Villa was moved on, pedro become more of a squad player, and they brought in the likes of sanchez and neymar. Again, a club looking to sign outstanding quality going forward that made sense. It was not great transition, pep left, xavi retired, Tito Vilanova and Gerado Martino both did average jobs has managers between 2012 and 14, messi was having a bit of a crisis and both managers were sacked. Then enrique was hired, they brought in Suarez in the summer of 2014 sold sanchez, and the rest is history. Never at Barcelona would you see them replace outstanding quality with work horses like Park and Valencia, which is exactly what fergie did

While you look at how Barcelona kept building on that golden era since the summer of 2008, and got over the pep departure and kept winning. Look at how we have handled the situation since summer of 2008, and fergie's departure, it is amateur against the pro's. We never tried to be smart in the transfer market and its like Fergie stopped trying to buy anyone, buy the odd player here and there, with hernandez, DDG and a RVP signing that came out of nowhere the highlights, and that was it really. And then when fergie retired, throwing money at the problem instead of building, with no one taking any leadership when managers like Moyes and VG clearly out of their depth, we keep VG on. The club only sacked Moyes when it was impossible to get CL football, because of how badly we ironed out that contract, and it seems once again they doing they same thing, imagine if we get the top 4? another year of VG
 
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Good post. But, to be fair, Wayne Rooney is now bigger than Manchester United.

Hope you're recovering well

Lets not forget that this championing of Giggs seems to be a form of player power too (technically ex-player power), yes he's a coach but he's using his playing career to get a job he has demonstrated nothing to earn.
 
My gut feeling is that Jose will be worse than Moyes and LVG. He won't attract good players and he'll fall out with the ones we have. I hope I'm wrong. Pochettino is the least worst option left at this point, if he would come. And the real problem is not the manager, it's the antiquated club structure that's still designed for SAF.
 
My gut feeling is that Jose will be worse than Moyes and LVG. He won't attract good players and he'll fall out with the ones we have. I hope I'm wrong. Pochettino is the least worst option left at this point, if he would come. And the real problem is not the manager, it's the antiquated club structure that's still designed for SAF.

Perhaps you should get your gut checked out by a doctor mate.
 
Perhaps you should get your gut checked out by a doctor mate.

Well either the club is seriously screwed or I ate too much artichoke last night. Could be either.
 
Spoke to a Spanish journalist yesterday, he's convinced Mourinho is going to United and says all the other Spanish journos are as well. Apparently it's going to happen even if we win the Europa League.

It's quite strange - the British press seems divided but the foreign press is unanimous in its belief that Mourinho is, as 'Arry says, a done deal. Spanish, Portuguese and Italian journos all seem consistent and unequivocal.
 
Interestingly, my journo friend also says people in Spain are v worried about what will happen if Mourinho takes over United. Says that, with United's money and Mourinho's personal appeal, United could pinch some of the top players in Spain. They're convinced Griezmann will be a top target and that's way Atletico are frantically trying to increase his release clause.
 
Thompson on Sky Sports Saturday suggests both Mourinho and Guardiola will ignore their youth set ups.
 
Thompson on Sky Sports Saturday suggests both Mourinho and Guardiola will ignore their youth set ups.
With Mourinho, pinocchio might be right. With Guardiola, if the players coming through at City are good enough for the first team, i believe they'll get their chance.
 
So Di Marzio has once again reiterated his stance on Mourinho. That's good enough for me.
 
With Mourinho, pinocchio might be right. With Guardiola, if the players coming through at City are good enough for the first team, i believe they'll get their chance.

Yeah, everyone making that assumption about Mourinho, but surprised Guardiola was mentioned. First time I've heard that.
 
Interestingly, my journo friend also says people in Spain are v worried about what will happen if Mourinho takes over United. Says that, with United's money and Mourinho's personal appeal, United could pinch some of the top players in Spain. They're convinced Griezmann will be a top target and that's way Atletico are frantically trying to increase his release clause.
Even if you just made this up my mood instantly got better reading your posts. This thread's been dead since thursday.
 
I find it hard that this is still a question of "if" and not "when". Well, I guess it's not really a question about "when" either, really.

Di Marzio is the most reliable media outlet available to us right now, and he rarely sticks his neck out with false information. At the very least, he never is so adamant of these things like he is with the MoUnited-news (I know I know..).
 
Yeah, everyone making that assumption about Mourinho, but surprised Guardiola was mentioned. First time I've heard that.
Depends what City have asked from Pep. He might not be in a position to blood youngsters. He has come from two leagues where the competition doesn't go as deep down the league. We have had to blood kids because of injuries and bad transfer decisions and look where we are in the table.
 
Di Marzio was banned from the Twitter thread for years because he was so unreliable. I have no idea why we act like he's an authority
 
Louis van Gaal has described speculation linking Jose Mourinhno to his job at Manchester United as “an absolute scandal”.

The pressure has eased marginally on the Dutchman this week after securing safe progress to the FA Cup quarter-finals and setting up a Europa League last-16 tie with Liverpool.

However, Van Gaal remains the bookmakers’ favourite to be the next top-flight manager to leave their post and Mourinho is as short as 1/6 to succeed him in the Old Trafford hot-seat.

The pair worked together when Van Gaal managed Barcelona, but he feels no need to speak to his former assistant about the speculation.

“(Mourinho) has said things a number of times with a lot of words,” Van Gaal told TV channel RTL7, according to the Daily Express.

“But he does not have to tell me anything. I find the whole thing ridiculous.

“No, I don’t want United to do something either. I don’t even want them to react to things which I read in the media or which are being created.

“We, the club and I, are not going to help the media right now by denying things.

“I think what is happening is an absolute scandal.”

http://www.football365.com/news/van-gaal-jose-talk-an-absolute-scandal
 
Di Marzio was banned from the Twitter thread for years because he was so unreliable. I have no idea why we act like he's an authority
You sure you're not mistaking him for that Tancredi-character?

Anyways, my search result shows that we've not really had "years" of Twitter threads..
 
The only thing that's a scandal is how poorly you've managed this club Mr VG!!
 
Louis van Gaal has described speculation linking Jose Mourinhno to his job at Manchester United as “an absolute scandal”.

The pressure has eased marginally on the Dutchman this week after securing safe progress to the FA Cup quarter-finals and setting up a Europa League last-16 tie with Liverpool.

However, Van Gaal remains the bookmakers’ favourite to be the next top-flight manager to leave their post and Mourinho is as short as 1/6 to succeed him in the Old Trafford hot-seat.

The pair worked together when Van Gaal managed Barcelona, but he feels no need to speak to his former assistant about the speculation.

“(Mourinho) has said things a number of times with a lot of words,” Van Gaal told TV channel RTL7, according to the Daily Express.

“But he does not have to tell me anything. I find the whole thing ridiculous.

“No, I don’t want United to do something either. I don’t even want them to react to things which I read in the media or which are being created.

“We, the club and I, are not going to help the media right now by denying things.

“I think what is happening is an absolute scandal.”

http://www.football365.com/news/van-gaal-jose-talk-an-absolute-scandal

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We never even should be IN the damn bloody Europa League last 16 in the first place. Also, we beat Shrewsbury in the FA Cup. Easing pressure? This guy has no idea.
 
I am certainly crazy now, but I would let LVG and Giggs, and see all these young lads develop one more year with the Herrera, Mata, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Smalling, De Gea or Martial. When I see the Rashbord, CBJ, Lindgard, Varela, and maybe Januaz, I don't know, I want to see them go through and succeed. I think it could be happening... I must be crazy.
 
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We never even should be IN the damn bloody Europa League last 16 in the first place. Also, we beat Shrewsbury in the FA Cup. Easing pressure? This guy has no idea.
He seriously doesn't. Those wins were nice, but they are the very, very minimum. We should still be in the CL, we should be challenging for the title, nevermind the top 4. He has messed up big time and is now trying to brainwash everyone into thinking he has done well.
 
Van Gaal can describe the speculation about his future as a ''scandal'' all he likes but there'd be no speculation if he'd done a better job.
 
Hang on, now: He thinks what is an absolute scandal?

That the press are speculating about his future? That many of them consider Maureen to be his successor? What, with Maureen himself doing nothing to rubbish this – and United themselves not saying a word either way? Yeah – I mean, that's low, even for the gutter press.

His grandkids will be crying tonight.
 
Hang on, now: He thinks what is an absolute scandal?

That the press are speculating about his future? That many of them consider Maureen to be his successor? What, with Maureen himself doing nothing to rubbish this – and United themselves not saying a word either way? Yeah – I mean, that's low, even for the gutter press.

His grandkids will be crying tonight.
He's a bit precious isn't he. When will we get that all this is putting his pets off their food?
 
Louis van Gaal has described speculation linking Jose Mourinhno to his job at Manchester United as “an absolute scandal”.

The pressure has eased marginally on the Dutchman this week after securing safe progress to the FA Cup quarter-finals and setting up a Europa League last-16 tie with Liverpool.

However, Van Gaal remains the bookmakers’ favourite to be the next top-flight manager to leave their post and Mourinho is as short as 1/6 to succeed him in the Old Trafford hot-seat.

The pair worked together when Van Gaal managed Barcelona, but he feels no need to speak to his former assistant about the speculation.

“(Mourinho) has said things a number of times with a lot of words,” Van Gaal told TV channel RTL7, according to the Daily Express.

“But he does not have to tell me anything. I find the whole thing ridiculous.

“No, I don’t want United to do something either. I don’t even want them to react to things which I read in the media or which are being created.

“We, the club and I, are not going to help the media right now by denying things.

“I think what is happening is an absolute scandal.”

http://www.football365.com/news/van-gaal-jose-talk-an-absolute-scandal


Only thing that is a scandal is how he is still in a united job, the guy is so deluded he thinks beating some minows means he is doing an excellent job, and no one should question his wisdom, ah yes out of the title race, out of the CL and probably out of the top 4
 
He's a bit precious isn't he. When will we get that all this is putting his pets off their food?

It has the appearance of a strategy if you ask me: I know people are saying that he's just brutally honest and non-savvy, but I don't know about that. Seems to me like he's settled on this “offended at the very idea” approach as a default way of getting back at the media when they turn up the heat.

He can't possibly be so naïve that he genuinely thinks it's scandalous that the journos are speculating at this stage: Season's been a roaring success, no? No reason why anyone would question his position, surely? And on top of that you have Maureen himself being cryptic rather than dismissive. I mean, seriously, what does he expect?
 
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