It's called a forum. Opinions differ. Shocking, I know. Several posters have made it clear why they wouldn't prefer Jose.
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It's called a forum. Opinions differ. Shocking, I know. Several posters have made it clear why they wouldn't prefer Jose.
Dont think so. Firstly I dont think Wenger is leaving unless he wins the PL title this season. Secondly Wenger will have a huge say in the next manager and there is no way he will suggest Jose.
If he is coming in summer, dont think we will have any word till LvG is officially gone. LvG is a senior coach and Jose as well as our club hold him in respect.
If he is not coming in summer, well there is nothing to talk about
You're right, he probably does. But then again, you take a look at Moyes, people saying that he took over in July and was behind in his planning. Moyes should have known what players he needed on his first day. Bet Mourinho will hand his list to Woody even before he takes over.
I know they talk shite, but crap like this from Daily Fail article nevertheless makes me
"Van Gaal maintains he is the man to take United forward but there is a growing belief among the increasingly disaffected players that the club will turn to Ryan Giggs to lead them at some stage.
Jose Mourinho is considered the manager elect should Van Gaal go but many staff believe he will be too confrontational."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rd-boss-seeks-solve-crisis.html#ixzz419TDORud
"Van Gaal maintains he is the man to take United forward but there is a growing belief among the increasingly disaffected players that the club will turn to Ryan Giggs to lead them at some stage.
Jose Mourinho is considered the manager elect should Van Gaal go but many staff believe he will be too confrontational."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rd-boss-seeks-solve-crisis.html#ixzz419TDORud
Daily Fail has an OCD to print some news or other on Utd on a daily basis
Love the pessimism here. Arsenal would be the last club in the world to hire him. Some people never cease to amaze me.
I know, and it's irritating.
Just hope Woody and Glazers don't share their views
Noticed since the 'informative' telegraph article on the various Jose v Giggs polls that the Fail has been mentioning Giggs with as much positivity as possible. Either Giggs' people, haven't given up on pushing Ryan into the hot seat via as much PR as possible, or the Fail being as stupid as usual. Let's hope it's the latter. Would hate to think we're still considering putting a novice in charge
Many English journos across many papers think that PL is better off with only British managers. And their articles are mainly based on those lines. That kind of agenda is quite apparent.I know, and it's irritating.
Just hope Woody and Glazers don't share their views
Noticed since the 'informative' telegraph article on the various Jose v Giggs polls that the Fail has been mentioning Giggs with as much positivity as possible. Either Giggs' people, haven't given up on pushing Ryan into the hot seat via as much PR as possible, or the Fail being as stupid as usual. Let's hope it's the latter. Would hate to think we're still considering putting a novice in charge
Some papers wrote pages on how Pool did not respect English managers when they fired Rodgers and got a foreigner in.
That's true.
I know it wouldn't be the right thing to do, but if we've gone for Jose, I wouldn't mind it confirmed now just to get rid of the speculations either way. 3 more months of this isn't exactly appealing
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-united-fans-want-jose-7433243
The two Sirs and David Gill going into overdrive on the PR front
Unbelievable. They may have legitimate reasons not to like Jose as manager - but to suggest the alternative of Giggs who has no experience strikes me as unbelievably irresponsible in their role as members of the board.
Hope Ed just makes a decision very quickly if he hasn't already. I'm sick to death of all this back and forth in the press with what looks like board members who only care for their own self interests.
What makes me believe this article is a pr push is the line that - " .....what if SAF's decision on Moyes was a blip"? It may well have been, but he's surely not doing himself any favours by compounding the notion that it was not a blip, by the mere fact that he's wanting to put an inexperienced person at the helm when he can see that the club would be taking a massive risk with the current state we're in.
The author suggesting the main reason why we want Jose is because City have hired Pep is disingenous. Those of us opposed to Giggs do not want him there at this moment for the simple common sense reason that he has no experience. It's pretty simple.
The two Sirs and David Gill going into overdrive on the PR front
Unbelievable. They may have legitimate reasons not to like Jose as manager - but to suggest the alternative of Giggs who has no experience strikes me as unbelievably irresponsible in their role as members of the board.
Hope Ed just makes a decision very quickly if he hasn't already. I'm sick to death of all this back and forth in the press with what looks like board members who only care for their own self interests.
What makes me believe this article is a pr push is the line that - " .....what if SAF's decision on Moyes was a blip"? It may well have been, but he's surely not doing himself any favours by compounding the notion that it was not a blip, by the mere fact that he's wanting to put an inexperienced person at the helm when he can see that the club would be taking a massive risk with the current state we're in.
The author suggesting the main reason why we want Jose is because City have hired Pep is disingenous. Those of us opposed to Giggs do not want him there at this moment for the simple common sense reason that he has no experience. It's pretty simple.
Surely this is what is holding any deal up?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...March-court-date-legal-dispute-continues.html
Can't see United hiring a manager who has still got a major outstanding, high profile issue with his old employers.
In fact I think the whole thing hinges on what happens in this dispute.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...March-court-date-legal-dispute-continues.html
Can't see United hiring a manager who has still got a major outstanding, high profile issue with his old employers.
In fact I think the whole thing hinges on what happens in this dispute.
Spot on. It is very irresponsible and they're letting personal feelings regarding Mourinho overlook the footballing side of being a manager.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-united-fans-want-jose-7433243
The two Sirs and David Gill going into overdrive on the PR front
Unbelievable. They may have legitimate reasons not to like Jose as manager - but to suggest the alternative of Giggs who has no experience strikes me as unbelievably irresponsible in their role as members of the board.
Hope Ed just makes a decision very quickly if he hasn't already. I'm sick to death of all this back and forth in the press with what looks like board members who only care for their own self interests.
What makes me believe this article is a pr push is the line that - " .....what if SAF's decision on Moyes was a blip"? It may well have been, but he's surely not doing himself any favours by compounding the notion that it was not a blip, by the mere fact that he's wanting to put an inexperienced person at the helm when he can see that the club would be taking a massive risk with the current state we're in.
The author suggesting the main reason why we want Jose is because City have hired Pep is disingenous. Those of us opposed to Giggs do not want him there at this moment for the simple common sense reason that he has no experience. It's pretty simple.
I read this yesterday andhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-united-fans-want-jose-7433243
The two Sirs and David Gill going into overdrive on the PR front
Unbelievable. They may have legitimate reasons not to like Jose as manager - but to suggest the alternative of Giggs who has no experience strikes me as unbelievably irresponsible in their role as members of the board.
Hope Ed just makes a decision very quickly if he hasn't already. I'm sick to death of all this back and forth in the press with what looks like board members who only care for their own self interests.
What makes me believe this article is a pr push is the line that - " .....what if SAF's decision on Moyes was a blip"? It may well have been, but he's surely not doing himself any favours by compounding the notion that it was not a blip, by the mere fact that he's wanting to put an inexperienced person at the helm when he can see that the club would be taking a massive risk with the current state we're in.
The author suggesting the main reason why we want Jose is because City have hired Pep is disingenous. Those of us opposed to Giggs do not want him there at this moment for the simple common sense reason that he has no experience. It's pretty simple.
. Tiresome these two "camps" banging their heads against each other.If true I'm surprised by Gill as it was reported he wanted Mourinho in 2013 and to go from that to Giggs is a huge jump.
It's borderline i insanity to go for Giggs at this stage for United.
This is utterly farcical at this stage.
Two men in their 70's, one who is supposed to be retired and David Gill, who is also supposed to have left the club, still trying to pull the strings, as we lie in no man's land in the league, in a shitty Thursday night second rate European competition, with our current manager demanding his players become horny.... And that's just the tip of the iceberg without going into our scouting system and youth academy
Meanwhile, one of the best managers of modern times is sitting on his arse doing nothing, and clubs domestically and on the continent, like City and Bayern, are hiring the best and have the blueprints for next season already done.
I realise this is a very pessimistic and doom soaked post but, feck me. We are the pits these days
Two men in their 70's, one who is supposed to be retired and David Gill, who is also supposed to have left the club, still trying to pull the strings, as we lie in no man's land in the league, in a shitty Thursday night second rate European competition, with our current manager demanding his players become horny.... And that's just the tip of the iceberg without going into our scouting system and youth academy
Meanwhile, one of the best managers of modern times is sitting on his arse doing nothing, and clubs domestically and on the continent, like City and Bayern, are hiring the best and have the blueprints for next season already done.
I realise this is a very pessimistic and doom soaked post but, feck me. We are the pits these days
So would Arsenal fans, they'd be so angry they'd collectively lose control of their bladders.
My thoughts exactly.
It's written by lifelong Liverpool fan Brian Reade, it's just another opinion piece. The media are going to have a field day with this situation until a decision is made.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-united-fans-want-jose-7433243
The two Sirs and David Gill going into overdrive on the PR front
Unbelievable. They may have legitimate reasons not to like Jose as manager - but to suggest the alternative of Giggs who has no experience strikes me as unbelievably irresponsible in their role as members of the board.
Hope Ed just makes a decision very quickly if he hasn't already. I'm sick to death of all this back and forth in the press with what looks like board members who only care for their own self interests.
What makes me believe this article is a pr push is the line that - " .....what if SAF's decision on Moyes was a blip"? It may well have been, but he's surely not doing himself any favours by compounding the notion that it was not a blip, by the mere fact that he's wanting to put an inexperienced person at the helm when he can see that the club would be taking a massive risk with the current state we're in.
The author suggesting the main reason why we want Jose is because City have hired Pep is disingenous. Those of us opposed to Giggs do not want him there at this moment for the simple common sense reason that he has no experience. It's pretty simple.
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The same Arsenal who were managed by George "1-0" Graham? or George "the bung"? The same Arsenal who had the worst disciplinary record in history under Wenger and long before? The most cynical/cheating/win at all costs outfit to grace English football......aaah, but you've been reading the papers haven't you? The purest team ever to soil the soles of their boots playing us lesser mortals at least for the past few years. Haven't won owt of course but they wouldn't go near Jose.
They were signed by Ranieri early in 2004 they just didn't play until the following season. Ferreira though I thought was signed in the summer of 2004 from Porto as in a Jose signing.
I was actually thinking more about his awful relationship with Wenger, who has as much influence at Arsenal as SAF had here. There's no way he'd want Mourinho taking over after him, and the club wouldn't do that to Wenger.
I'm with you here although all he said she said at moment the lack of any news from the club itself sucks.
That's actually a very good point. And the fact it could rumble on til early June at the latest makes sense too. Ed and Jose have agreed in principle. Van Gaal see's out the season and Jose comes in July 1st.
I just can't see anything else. Giggs would be manager by now otherwise. And Jose would have denied it if he knew he wasn't getting the job. He denied the Inter rumours straight away.
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Depending on the outcome, it could rule him out completely.
The way he acted was pretty disgraceful and unless he apologises publicly (perhaps a rendition of Justin Bieber, Sorry), or backs down in some way I can see it (rightfully) costing him the job.
Spare me the sarcastic response. I'd love to believe that we can engage in a mature debate. We arent 3(I think)
I dont really have anything against anyone that isnt enthusiastic about Jose. That's what my initial statement alluded to. They'll be those who like him, and those that dont.
The statement you suddenly jumped to was with regards to people who hated him and would not want him even IF it would result in the better good of the club . My point was that in that particular scenario, then so be it.
The club haven't even come out and supported LvG in any way during all this. It's ridiculous.
I don't know what the other three are on wanting Giggs but, when Moyes was on Bein sports, he told hairy hands that Fergie used to just hang round outside the area near the dressing rooms before home matches. No idea why. Maybe this is a power thing
That article doesn't even mention Ryan Giggs.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-united-fans-want-jose-7433243
The two Sirs and David Gill going into overdrive on the PR front
Unbelievable. They may have legitimate reasons not to like Jose as manager - but to suggest the alternative of Giggs who has no experience strikes me as unbelievably irresponsible in their role as members of the board.
Hope Ed just makes a decision very quickly if he hasn't already. I'm sick to death of all this back and forth in the press with what looks like board members who only care for their own self interests.
What makes me believe this article is a pr push is the line that - " .....what if SAF's decision on Moyes was a blip"? It may well have been, but he's surely not doing himself any favours by compounding the notion that it was not a blip, by the mere fact that he's wanting to put an inexperienced person at the helm when he can see that the club would be taking a massive risk with the current state we're in.
The author suggesting the main reason why we want Jose is because City have hired Pep is disingenous. Those of us opposed to Giggs do not want him there at this moment for the simple common sense reason that he has no experience. It's pretty simple.
It's Busby all over again. The club became his life. It's never easy letting go, especially for a natural control freak like him.
1. SAF retired as manager, not from all involvement.
2. David Gill remains a director
3. The guy 'sitting on his arse' is highly likely contractually restricted from working in England this season
4. It's the fecking daily mirror
That's also possible. And would explain a lot. Jose's camp are pretty confident it won't be a problem, hence all the rumours. But Ed remains cautious & is waiting for that March 7th hearing.
"It's the fecking daily mirror"
Is there actually any source/journalist/paper/article that you don't dismiss completely?
As I said, I know it's a very pessimistic/negative post but...
1. I'm a naturally pessimistic person
2. With all these recent stories about Fergie, Gill and Charlton, it's hard not to get worried and fearful
5. The person writing the article is a lifelong Liverpool fan Brian Reade. Ferguson and Charlton would rather go to any Manchester based journo to do their PR(if they're doing it all)
6. Its a fecking opinion piece. Journalists can write that without any person influencing them.
7. Stop thinking of everything as a conspiracy
This really is turning into a fantastic script idea. He's the Vince to Austin.
"It was me Jose. It was me all along."
So what you are saying is that you want Woodward to make the decisions, not the only "football men" at high level within club?
"It's the fecking daily mirror"
Is there actually any source/journalist/paper/article that you don't dismiss completely?
Very few, and with good cause. Look at everything that's been written in the last few months and its painfully obvious how little they know.
The press latch on to the fears of fans like yourself and write pieces to exploit those fears. It's what they do.
Also yes.
They were signed by Chelsea not Ranieri, like almost all the players Chelsea signs, I know I'm being pedantic.
True enough. I actually wasn't on about this particular piece but, in general.
As I said, I'm a naturally pessimistic person and see the worst in everything. I also don't get the theme of the apparent shoe horning of Giggs into everything. And that's been based on everything since Fergie retired
loved the horny lineYour answer is very correct and indeed pedantic, which is always welcome on the Caf.
So does this mean we cannot really blame Moyes for signing Fellaini?
It seems that on the transfer market United follows its manager instructions, so I guess that Moyes was responsible for Fellaini. And to be clear I don't blame Moyes for Fellaini, bad transfers and bad ideas happen.
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