Wish I had your confidence.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Wish I had your confidence.
RAWK are so desperate for Giggs to be manager 
Not net spend. You have to look at that for a meaningful comparison.
£180m in his first period (with Shevchenko being an Abramovich signing)
£300m in the second (but net spend is £90m)
The first number is in net?
Gross, net would be £130m
imagine that tosser doing something like that in a press conference for us, criticising our players......
with all these leaks and 'accidental' disclosures from his chums I'm starting to get really pissed off with the prat
if he is in the frame he needs to shut up and be respectful of Van Gaal until we make a decision
180m gross isn't possible, he joined in 2004 and during that window alone they spent over a hundred million.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/chelsea/english-football-teams/chelsea-transfers
I took it from there. They have put Ferreira, Robben and Cech into the previous year for some reason
Edit - Went to Wikipedia and it is 208m gross and 152m net
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But even then, he left in september 2007, that's 220m.
I use this: http://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/alletransfers/verein/631
I really like Conte, he just has a bit of an aura about him, to me it seems it has to be be Mourhino or Giggs for us and nothing else, surely we'd be well advised to talk to managers like Conte or Simeone before we make a decision.
Yeah that website is better, wiki didn't include mikel's compensation fee to us so it would also be 220
Yes but not in a comparison with Jose, it was to highlight that people a short sighted to facts to fit their argument.
Most people seem to be interpreting Jose's latest quotes to mean that he is coming to United in the summer.
Isn't a more likely interpretation (and closer to what he actually said) that, rather than take the only offer currently on the table (us) he would rather wait till the summer and see what is available then - and get the right job?
I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal are also in the running come summer.
Isn't a more likely interpretation (and closer to what he actually said) that, rather than take the only offer currently on the table (us) he would rather wait till the summer and see what is available then - and get the right job?
I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal are also in the running come summer.
This is my interpretation too.
I agree with you. It looks like Giggs will get the job
It's been said earlier, that Mourinho isn't very popular at Arsenal, and most likely the same the other way around.
So i doubt they are in it.
So i doubt they are in it.
Thanks to Woodward!
I'd be very surprised if Arsenal were an option - even assuming Wenger did step-down (which I don't think he will regardless of what happens) then there is so much bad blood between Wenger (and thus, by extension, Arsenal) and Jose that I can't see either side entertaining the thought. I realise Jose wants to stay in England (London) but moving from Chelsea across the city to Arsenal seems a big move to make. It's certainly more of an emotional move than coming to us, since our rivalry with Chelsea has only ever been about trophies - with Wenger it has been personal.
I'm one of those who can completely believe that United won't go for him - for a variety of potentially stupid reasons. But there are too many conflicting rumours to make much sense as a whole - some hacks were saying that Woodward didn't want to sack LVG because it would reflect poorly on him, or that he wanted to stick to the Giggs succession plan, but then we have Red Issue and related hacks trying to paint a civil war within the club where Sir Alex, Sir Bobby and Gill didn't want Jose either - so if both rumours were true, then who in the club is pushing for Jose? The Glazers? Just about the only thing everyone agrees on is that they know feck all about football and focus on the business side.
If there's any truth in Mourinho being in talks with us then someone must be pushing for it from United - and if it's not Woodward, Sir Alex, Sir Bobby, Gill or the Glazers then who?
I'm one of those who can completely believe that United won't go for him - for a variety of potentially stupid reasons. But there are too many conflicting rumours to make much sense as a whole - some hacks were saying that Woodward didn't want to sack LVG because it would reflect poorly on him, or that he wanted to stick to the Giggs succession plan, but then we have Red Issue and related hacks trying to paint a civil war within the club where Sir Alex, Sir Bobby and Gill didn't want Jose either - so if both rumours were true, then who in the club is pushing for Jose? The Glazers? Just about the only thing everyone agrees on is that they know feck all about football and focus on the business side.
If there's any truth in Mourinho being in talks with us then someone must be pushing for it from United - and if it's not Woodward, Sir Alex, Sir Bobby, Gill or the Glazers then who?
Nah. I can't stand Jose but if at the end of the day his coming to Old Trafford works out for the greater goof of Man Utd then I will except that. It's not hypercritical, it's more that my love of Man Utd outweighs my dislike of Jose. Simple.
Even if they were in it, I can't see the Arsenal job being more attractive to him as a challenge or financially. Maybe I'm being biased. Regardless it just seems ridiculous to me that if we are interested in bringing him here this summer, he'd be anywhere but here unless he doesn't want to return to England. (which seems unlikely going by what he's saying.)
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Wenger is in contract talks mate, he aint going anywhere
It could mean that, but I'd assume any manager would want to start as early as possible, get the groundwork in motion and get the full pre-season. One of the pitfalls of Moyes and then LvG is that they didn't start early enough. Moyes started at the start of July and only had a week or so before pre-season started, where it seemed like June was totally wasted with nobody in charge when there was significant work to be done. LvG started after the World Cup ended, which he was at right until the 3rd place play off, and the majority of our transfer dealings happening very late in the window.
I feel certain Mourinho knows where he will be come June, and I'd bet he's always assessing the squad of the club he is joining, and making preliminary summer plans.
My interpretation of what he said he he has no offers to choose from right now! I have the feeling Woodward will either stick with LVG or appoint Giggs.
You guys are such pessimists, this is a jurno's wet dream, free licence to make up differing versions of dogs**t Re:the United job each day for the rest of the season.
My two cents.
Its done. He's coming and he knows it.
For some reason though, I think he thinks he is being respectful to VanGaal by waiting till summer. And Woodward is trying to be respectful. Basically, since this seasons gone to shit anyway, I'm assuming the board will just wait until summer figuring nothing can be done to salvage this season.
Its done. He's coming and he knows it.
For some reason though, I think he thinks he is being respectful to VanGaal by waiting till summer. And Woodward is trying to be respectful. Basically, since this seasons gone to shit anyway, I'm assuming the board will just wait until summer figuring nothing can be done to salvage this season.
He is not going to Arsenal for the last time.
The negativity in here is fantastic. Arsenal wouldn't touch Mourinho with a barge pole.
He's probably contractually obliged not to join anyone, or say anything about joining anyone, for the rest of this season. I think the reports about us having a "gentleman's agreement" are perfectly plausible. We'll announce something the day after the season ends.
The coy comments about joining someone in the Summer can only mean he's coming to United. No other top team will be negotiating for a marquee manager at this point in the season. They all have too much to play for.
The coy comments about joining someone in the Summer can only mean he's coming to United. No other top team will be negotiating for a marquee manager at this point in the season. They all have too much to play for.
Based on his comments I'm 99% sure it's happening.
As if that has ever stopped him from saying what he wants. He can get any of his media cronies to plant his stories for him.
He clearly has already...
TBF, nor would Mourinho.
Van Gaal is his mentor and close friend, even if he's got the job as long as van Gaal is still the manager he won't be announcing it .
He's coming here.
No denial from the club at all. Mourinho didn't even reject the idea completely in the latest interview. All he is saying is that he rather work at the start of the season rather than in the middle.
He is actually addressing why he's not taking over United immediately.
It's the worst kept secret right now.
No denial from the club at all. Mourinho didn't even reject the idea completely in the latest interview. All he is saying is that he rather work at the start of the season rather than in the middle.
He is actually addressing why he's not taking over United immediately.
It's the worst kept secret right now.
tbf mourinho probably knows more about our squad then the whole of our coaching staff combined.
When you manage in EPL I'd assume they have a full dossier of every team they face let alone Manchester united
I'd piss myself if he ended up at arsenal
Not everyone seems to be able to make that connection.
For some, the Jose hate is deeply personal, beyond reason, and turning to support him now means they lose face on here.
I know he's flawed, but the alternatives considering how badly we've been doing post SAF for me are too risky. We've gone the risky route and failed spectacularly. We are running out of dice throws.
No word either way from the club. No mention of Manchester United from Mourinho.
Pretty obvious. At the very least he'll have told Woody he would want the job were it offered in the summer.
Pretty obvious. At the very least he'll have told Woody he would want the job were it offered in the summer.
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