Yes! It was taken from us 10 000 years ago! It probably sank because of all the immigrants! It must be returned.BBC Impartiality
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Yes! It was taken from us 10 000 years ago! It probably sank because of all the immigrants! It must be returned.It was the woke lefties back then who wanted to ban dogging! We were free in doggerland, free to dog!
Nah, don't believe that tweet. It's 100% untrue. There was nothing liberal or left about the Nazis.
In fact the German Communist Party was the only one that radically opposed Hitler and his minions.
And it’s a distraction anyway. Best ignored.
100%
Remember Musk is the one who cried foul over the bots in the first place, then he was forced to buy twitter, and then he opened it up to more bots so the farms would pay $8 a head to spout their propaganda. He doesn't actually care about left/right or all that, he's doing what it takes to earn some of that money he borrowed back.
And that leaves us even more open to awful practice that pollutes the minds of the impressionable. You couple that with media (like the BBC) showing themselves up and being even less trustworthy, and now we find ourselves in a position that nobody knows who to trust anymore.
Tory influence has to be removed from the board, it's too blatant.
The BBC? All political influence needs to be removed and kept away.
Make no mistake, roles reversed, Labour would be doing the exact same thing. The Licence fee, and threat of removal, will always be the way in for those in power.
Really disappointed the BBC is plowing ahead with a shortened Match of the Day.
They should have the courage of their convictions and just have announced....
"In a change to our normal schedule tonight...in place of Match of the day...The Nazis...a warning from History"
They should have the courage of their convictions and just have announced....
"In a change to our normal schedule tonight...in place of Match of the day...The Nazis...a warning from History"
Your posts on this topic have been frenzy of denial. It's not the first time Question Time has done this. The BBC are setup, from the top down, to have political bias in favour of the Tories.
I can't believe the daily mail would lead us astray like that
True enough.
It was not a quote from Johnson. It was not his right of reply.
This is likely true. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't point it out.
To be honest, I still think it might be a popular myth among right wingers because the Nazis did claim to pursue socialists goals - and had the term Social in their party name. But in reality the Nazi purge started with the Communists and Socialists as the first targets.I can't believe the daily mail would lead us astray like that
On twitter they prioritise people who've paid for it (twitter blue) in the replies, might be that.
Good old capitalism. He who spends the most gets the biggest voice.
Hence why the cult of Musk talking about "free speech" is even more laughable than the BBC doing it.
We should 100% point it out. But it's not a left/right thing, it's a politics should not be involved full stop thing.
Speaking of wind-ups.
Peter Hitchens doubling down:
Oh don't worry I'm no fan of Musk. His treatment of his twitter employee last week was atrocious.
I say bring back a trusted social media platform like bebo where we can all list our top 16 friends like old times.
It's utterly baffling to me how this can be the brother of Christopher Hitchens. How though?
Those were the days!Between that and Habbo Hotel. God I remember how we thought those platforms (and then myspace when it changed to more social media) were cringe but also strangely compelling at the same time. How little we knew then about how bad it could get! Even Facebook was harmless enough at first.
Sad thing is, twitter was absolutely awesome for the first couple of years. Talking freely to footballers and celebs, barely any political shite. Ah the good old days before people realised how much money and influence was to be had
The whole thread is quite good as well.
Play your cards right Gary and you could be PM in 18 months
Lineker row threatens to topple BBC chiefs and hit Tory asylum plans
Broadcaster forced to slash TV coverage, while BBC chair and director general face calls to resign over crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...s-topple-bbc-chiefs-and-hit-tory-asylum-plans
Lineker row threatens to topple BBC chiefs and hit Tory asylum plans
Broadcaster forced to slash TV coverage, while BBC chair and director general face calls to resign over crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...s-topple-bbc-chiefs-and-hit-tory-asylum-plans
You're right, but...
The Tories put an ex Conservative candidate, Tim Davie, in 2020 as director General of the BBC.
Couldn't make it upPlay your cards right Gary and you could be PM in 18 months
Lineker row threatens to topple BBC chiefs and hit Tory asylum plans
Broadcaster forced to slash TV coverage, while BBC chair and director general face calls to resign over crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...s-topple-bbc-chiefs-and-hit-tory-asylum-plans
I disagree. For me this pushes division more.
Everyone should be prepared to compromise because if you're not willing to compromise yourself then how can you expect others to.
A marketplace of ideas is great, but it presumes that everyone wants to approach it in the way that you do. And it does work on occasion.
It also assumes that everyone has the same access, or at least the same ability to access the marketplace to engage in debate and compromise. I'm not sure that's the case either.
If power and opportunity is concentrated in few hands, and if we don't tell the full story about the history of this country and the people who live here and lived here, and many people live disposable lives and can be ignored by those in power and those with means in society, then the marketplace suddenly becomes very small indeed.
So there's absolutely no commentary at all and just crowd noise. Sorry but I had to check. On the bright side, I just seen Liverpool go down a goal.
So, we compromise human rights?
Yeah they don't have rights for the world feed.
A marketplace of ideas works very well in alot of European governments compared to how ours operates where we have one extreme or the other (well not extreme but you know what I mean. 2 horse race etc..) usually with a majority to push through what they like. And don't get me started on the Lords.
But anyway in terms of division while I agree you shouldn't sit on the fence. I also don't think people should be grouped into x or y. I've grown up in Northern Ireland where you were born protestant or Catholic and honestly division doesn't accomplish anything.
I know I'm maybe applying the quote in a different context than intended and I'm probably naive with my views too. But I guess this is why I was such a fan of corbyn. While others follow the status quo he was willing to meet IRA terrorists and meet Palestinian people despite maybe not agreeing with all their views. And it's those acts of compassion and meeting in the middle which I believe get us more progression in the world than divide and conquer.
We can only compromise human rights if this passes through the commons, the Lords and then isn't deemed to break international law/ECHR.
But we know it breaks the ECHR code which Winston Churchill I believe, ironically, was one of the founding people to sign.
So human rights aren't going to be compromised by this. Its about as much a chance of becoming a reality as the tories growing money trees in everyones garden to fix the economy has.
Its purpose was to create division and a culture war. It succeeded. What we need to do is find a way to get through to people who think otherwise and hopefully change their views. And this in my opinion has became a huge issue in UK and American politics over the last decade. There is no respect or honest debate anymore. Its just childish insults and we mustn't scupper to that because its toxic. We need to be more united.