I'll be honest, I read the initial reviews of AvP3 and thought i'd hate it. The controls were initially clunky, but once i'd got used to it, it's actually surpassed my expectations and is probably going to end up being better than AvP2.
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I'll be honest, I read the initial reviews of AvP3 and thought i'd hate it. The controls were initially clunky, but once i'd got used to it, it's actually surpassed my expectations and is probably going to end up being better than AvP2.
You're kidding, right? The AvP3 demo was a fecking abortion, it should have been terminated in the womb and then had its unfinished hideous carcass smeared across the screen as a warning to every other developer out there.
Not kidding at all. Took me about an hour to start getting used to the setup but now I love it. Its excellent, top notch gameplay. You have to actually think through how to kill people rather than just spraying/praying (unlike all other fps titles of late). The quality of opposition is improving too as people now start to learn how to use the other races etc.
Just a shame they launched the demo with deathmatch, the gamemode which will probably get played the least.
Fcuk it, I'm going to try it now... I tried the other day but couldn't find a match, it was in some endless loop for ever. Is that normal?
I FINALLY got a game, and it's only because it was my mate.
We were both Aliens, it was shit. The full game will be much better, I hope.
We were both Aliens, it was shit. The full game will be much better, I hope.
PS3, Xbox360, PC?
They had an issue with the PC and switched all the servers off to resolve it last weekend. Bare in mind that they won't have the bullshit automatch up when its released. It's normal dedicated servers.
Oddly, (no idea why they did this) they released the demo from a build over 10 months old. Hence why theres a few bugs and issues. The only real annoyance I have is the inability to crouch as a marine or look up the weapons sights for extra accuracy at range.
Otherwise the balancing between races is very good (finished top with all 3 races now) and you need to learn how to use the races with different tactics. If you're playing on the PC I advise you remap all of the controls and also click auto wall transition on instead of off. This allows the Alien to walk on surfaces without having to press a button to switch (which is annoying!).
I wasn't going to buy the game before the demo. But I am now.
Yep.
Further than I got spammo, anyway back to BC2...
Anyone know how long this demo is live for and if your rank etc carries over?
Anyone know how long this demo is live for and if your rank etc carries over?
I believe the rank resets itself. The beta should be live upto the day of the release and thats when the official servers will come down.
I quite enjoyed my 10 minutes spell on this, but after playing noob friendly MW2 I found it hard to tell who was who and what the feck was going on
Been absolutely rinsing this game, when is it out here? Friday?
Demo finishes today I think (25th)
Demo finishes today I think (25th)
They got nobbled online
COD really has nothing on BC2. Can't wait for the normal conquest maps, bring back the good times of BF2. Mind you, I haven't played the demo in a while (thanks to Dragon Age).
The Demo's brilliant.
Didnt know it finished mind
Didnt know it finished mind
I just prefer it. I have Battlefield: Bad Company, and I'm not a fan of that either.
I just don't see what BC2 does better, to be honest.
The demo felt horrible to me, really floaty movement, but thats probably just because i'm so used to COD.
Amazing, I've played COD online and tbh, BC2's demo (with only 1 map) was a damn sight better. Dynamic maps, insane action, more tactics, proper teamwork... The only thing COD has going for it is graphics.
They should have picked a better map for the multiplayer demo though. It was a little too restrictive.
You want to expand on why you prefer COD? I really can't see it, it's a poor mans Counterstrike.
They should have picked a better map for the multiplayer demo though. It was a little too restrictive.
You want to expand on why you prefer COD? I really can't see it, it's a poor mans Counterstrike.
Disappointed with the demo for the same reasons as Biscuit.
I still might get it (if only for Conquest mode) but it doesn't look as good as the initial footage or play as good as I'd hoped.
I still might get it (if only for Conquest mode) but it doesn't look as good as the initial footage or play as good as I'd hoped.
Its probably just because im so used to COD - i've played all the COD's from COD3 - MW2 a ridiculous amount. But as for reasons why i prefer it, well the pace of COD is a lot faster. Yes it's less tactical, and even on 'team' games, its more lone wolf than relying any sort of team tactics, but i like this. As you pointed out, the graphics are better.
I found on the BC2 demo, it was a lot of spawn - run for 5 minutes to where some fighting was going on, kill a few people, die, back to spawn. Unless you were a sniper, which i didn't like either, as, if i remember correctly, there was no breathing action which to me just seemed stupid.
I think in conclusion, COD is just a lot faster paced and requires quicker thinking. Yes on BC, it was possible to be more tactical and work as a team, but you still get wankers who jump straight into a tank and power off to the opposition base.
I found on the BC2 demo, it was a lot of spawn - run for 5 minutes to where some fighting was going on, kill a few people, die, back to spawn. Unless you were a sniper, which i didn't like either, as, if i remember correctly, there was no breathing action which to me just seemed stupid.
I think in conclusion, COD is just a lot faster paced and requires quicker thinking. Yes on BC, it was possible to be more tactical and work as a team, but you still get wankers who jump straight into a tank and power off to the opposition base.
I prefer the graphics, control system, feel of the game, and the weapons in COD (although obviously you don't have access to the full arsenal in the BC2 demo). Vehicles don't interest me either.
Tactics? Who plays COD with utilising tactics? Proper teamwork? If you say so, can't say I noticed. Insane action? You don't get that in COD?
I don't know what "a poor man's Counterstrike" even means.
As I said, it just does nothing for me, and judging from this thread, I'm not alone. Each to their own.
Out of curosity. How long have you guys played it?
I found the first 2-3 hours frustrating but once I'd unlocked a few weapons and gotten used to the pace of the game it became a damn sight better. I hadn't noticed the floaty movement before, you maybe right though.
Destructable buildings is a complete game changer though. It really helps the gameplay and I can't wait for them to get BF3 underway. The only thing really missing from BC2 is the lack of aircraft, helicopters just don't cut it
As for the spawning issue Biscuit. If you join a squad you can spawn on any of your squad mates. Reducing the need for running around the map.
I found the first 2-3 hours frustrating but once I'd unlocked a few weapons and gotten used to the pace of the game it became a damn sight better. I hadn't noticed the floaty movement before, you maybe right though.
Destructable buildings is a complete game changer though. It really helps the gameplay and I can't wait for them to get BF3 underway. The only thing really missing from BC2 is the lack of aircraft, helicopters just don't cut it
As for the spawning issue Biscuit. If you join a squad you can spawn on any of your squad mates. Reducing the need for running around the map.
To be honest, I only played it for just over an hour, so you may have a point. I probably didn't give it enough time to properly appreciate it.
You've never heard of Counterstrike? Dear god, I lost 5 years of my life too that game. A fantastic game, bloody brilliant. I also made over 300 pound playing it too!
It was originally a modification for Half-Life. But it became so popular that after 2 years of development Valve bought it out and it became an official retail game. Once Half-Life2 was released, Valve updated Counterstrike to Counterstrike Source, essentially a reskin with updated/new maps.
At its peak it has well over 2 million people playing it at one given time. It essentially gave birth to the clan match system and was the first game to introduce money matches. Community made maps were a huge addition to the game too.
I loved Counter Strike
Apart from the shot reg, it was amazing.
I can't believe the amount of hours I wasted devising tactics for our clan matches. We actually spent hours practising the tactics on an empty server! It's mad when you look back just how obsessed you can get with games
But feck me, the adrenline would flow when you were in a really competitive game.
Haha well I was never one for that malarky. I never played under the same name and only did clan matches with people I knew were sound. I played on UKCS with LuckyNV, jihn etc and they were fecking good.
Fair enough, I won't try and convert you but here's my list of what it does better:
Better spawn system (when in squads), can be used tactically.
Better gunplay, not just run around and spray.
Fcuking vehicles! each one being as useful as the next and if you're on foot you can still put up a fight with a tracer and a RPG.
Onscreen icons, map and objective systems are so easy to use.
fecking destructible environments! campers? get fcuked...
(there's probably more but this is only from the demo)
Yea give it a little time. I found it a little dodgy at first but like any game, once you get used to it, it's a wrap.
You're probably right about the graphics, but then the fact I haven't noticed it until you mention it says a lot about what's important in this game.
Most of your problems seem to come from not being in a squad, or being in a shite one. You can be a lone wolf in this game but it definitely rewards squad play. And a team of lone wolfs will get slaughtered going up against a team of squad players (like most games).
I would have said maybe this game isn't for you but after your second post I'll say you probably didn't give it enough time. This game (at the least) is a viable alternative to COD, and as far as I concerned it's potentially better... and it's just a demo.
Out of curosity. How long have you guys played it?
I found the first 2-3 hours frustrating but once I'd unlocked a few weapons and gotten used to the pace of the game it became a damn sight better. I hadn't noticed the floaty movement before, you maybe right though.
Destructable buildings is a complete game changer though. It really helps the gameplay and I can't wait for them to get BF3 underway. The only thing really missing from BC2 is the lack of aircraft, helicopters just don't cut it
As for the spawning issue Biscuit. If you join a squad you can spawn on any of your squad mates. Reducing the need for running around the map.
The helis are good, the controls are just hard enough to make it pointless to attempt boarding one unless you know wtf you're doing. Keep trying until you get it... trick is to board and go straight up into the sky and then you can figure out the controls without risk of hitting the deck or being shot down. Really subtle movements though...
The drones a lot easier to fly mind...
I know how to fly em, i'm a battlefield veteran with an x52 pro joystick. I just don't get the same satisifaction of killing people in a helicopter as I do in my Jets
Project Reality is so much better than all the new online FPS games, and its only a BF2 mod (albeit one so extensive its basically a new game using the bf2 engine, something like 9gbs to download). Kicks MW2's mulitplayer and any other FPS multiplayer currently out there.
I have high hopes for BC2 though, it may be a little spammy but it has potential.
I have high hopes for BC2 though, it may be a little spammy but it has potential.
God I hate Project Reality. Not only do I find it bores the bollocks off me, but my usual BF2 playing mates spend more time playing it than actual BF2.
In fairness it is an amazing amount of high quality content that transforms the entire game.
In fairness it is an amazing amount of high quality content that transforms the entire game.
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Mate of mine has been playing the beta and wants me to buy it. Not sure, since I thought MW2 MP was a bit rubbish, and I also haven't gotten into any previous Battlefield games, but he'll probably manage to convince me. The cnut.
Maybe I'll give Project Reality a go as well
Maybe I'll give Project Reality a go as well
Forgotten Hope 2 is alot better than Project Reality imo. Far more fun and it's a ww2 game! It's great shizzle!
I'm just completed the first single player campaign mission for the PC. Only tried this game on the PS3 previously, and I'm very impressed with the shooting mechanics and general gameplay so far. I must mention that despite having very normal speakers, the game sounds spectacular.