Sharpesque.
He would be high up on a list of players I would like us to sign.
He would be high up on a list of players I would like us to sign.
Bastian Schweinsteiger
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Far from a transfer muppet, and actually pretty happy with the squad at the moment but I would absolutely love Bastian at OT. I have a wierd, slightly worrying love for German football and their players, too many trips to Munich change a man.
Nice one, Schweini is currently the best German midfielder.
Muller, Ozil, Kroos, Khedira may get there one day, but Schweini is the pig's bollocks.
Doubt it, they'd b mad to fire him.
They were on the verge of firing him this time last year. They had a torrid start to the season, but the win at Juventus revived both his and Bayern's season.
From the BBC Gossip page:
Bastian Schweinsteiger has yet to agree a new deal with Bayern Munich and Germany captain and former Chelsea star Michael Ballack, speaking to Kicker magazine, has told him: "Real or Man United are both attractive and he would fit in well at both clubs."
Still my #2 choice behind Pastore though, but Schweinstenger would be a brilliant signing... Perhaps a German duo this summer with him accompanied by Neuer or Adler.
Bastian Schweinsteiger has yet to agree a new deal with Bayern Munich and Germany captain and former Chelsea star Michael Ballack, speaking to Kicker magazine, has told him: "Real or Man United are both attractive and he would fit in well at both clubs."
Still my #2 choice behind Pastore though, but Schweinstenger would be a brilliant signing... Perhaps a German duo this summer with him accompanied by Neuer or Adler.
Ex-Chelsea star Ballack recommends Man Utd to Schweinsteiger
08.11.10 | Ian Ferris
Former Chelsea player and Germany captain Michael Ballack claims Bastian Schweinsteiger is ready to move abroad next summer.
Schweinsteiger's contract with Bayern Munich runs until 2012, although talks over an extension have stalled recently, raising speculation that the 26-year-old is considering a new challenge.
And Ballack, who spent four years with the Blues, believes the Bayern Munich midfielder would "fit in well" at a club like Manchester United or Real Madrid.
"He has taken on the responsibility placed in him and is now in a phase when he is looking to reach the zenith of his career," said Ballack to Kicker magazine.
"He took a huge step forwards at the World Cup.
"He has presence, authority, personality, performance and goals - he has everything."
Ballack is one of only a few German players in recent years to have left the country and sought a challenge abroad.
"Only he will be able to feel what is right for him for the future," added Ballack.
"Of course every footballer is attracted to certain things and Bastian will feel these also. But there are not that many big clubs around and Bayern is one of them.
"On the other hand, Real or Man United are both attractive and he would fit in well at both clubs."
Does Ballack hate Chelsea or what now? He recommends Schweinsteiger to Man Utd and not Chelsea?
I would pick Schweinsteiger over Pastore and we have more chances of signing Neuer over Adler.
Adler is in Bayern Leverkusen and they are doing pretty good this season. They are sitting in third place in the table in Bundesliga. So they have a good chance of making the UCL, even though it is really early in the season.
Schalke 04 is in a relegation spot right now and Neuer might leave if they don't get a European place next season, which I highly doubt they will.
Chelsea were illoyal to Ballack, they should not expect any favors from him in the future. He made it quite public that he wanted to stay, Chelsea felt that he had a bit to expensive wage bill. When that is said, it is fair to say that he had his best season in the Chelsea shirt last season, and really deserved a new contract. If you are illoyal to your players like Chelsea was, a reaction is likely. Ballack's is a German legend and Schweinstenger will probably take his advice to consideration. On top of that, if he goes to Chelsea, he has a stronger competitor for the spot in Lampard, that United don't really have right now.
Well its just the age... 27 at start of the next season, he needs to adapt to a new league... To be honest I'd actually take Schweinstenger above both Iniesta and Sneijder, not because he is a better player - he is probably the worst of the three, but he is the most adaptable, he has played in many different positions. I also think the German leagues might be one of the ones that are most similar to the Premier League, its a country with very strong defending, and its kind of odd that there are not more transfer between the two countries. But I don't like spending big at players with no Premier League experience at that age because they don't adapt to much anymore. If we sign Pastore he will develop a lot the next three or four years and we can sort of mold him into a perfect Premier League player... Pastore can be the best midfielder in the world when he turns 27 as well. That is why I would chose Pastore anyway, not because he is better right now. Pastore is probably better technically, Schweinstenger probably more creative and a better passer (that does not necessarily mean better passer than Pastore is going to be once he gets a bit more experience). Both has a very good shot, and that is really important because we need to get more of a 30 meter threat.
I also feel that younger players often adapt faster to new leagues as well. Wenger once said that it takes 6-12 months to adapt to a new club. Look at Malouda, Ballack, Kuyt... Some times, especially with elder players it takes 24 months. But then, I doubt Giggs will retire next season so we are not in a immediate rush neither, there would be time, and Germans usually gets old in the game. The problem with Schweinstenger can be the girlfriend though because she said no to a move to Torino and Juventus a few years back. If Chelsea is interested, I bet London is more appealing than Manchester if she is the one to determine the destination.
As for Adler or Neuer, I don't care witch one of them we get, I don't really know whom the better option is neither. But both of them would be great signings.
Schweinsteiger would be a surefire hit if he was to move here. Keep talking him round Ballack.
You must be bollocks to take Schweinsteiger over Iniesta. Schweinsteiger has played in many different positions? Could you care to explain how many? Iniesta, I think, is more versatile because he can play anywhere in midfield. He can play on the left and in the middle and to a certain extent even on the right if he has to.
He played as a winger when he was younger, and has role in Bayern Munchen has been different throughout the years. Barcelona players are really hard to see how good they are, because they have such a frame around them - top players in every position.
As I said, I do believe Iniesta is a better player. But I think Schweinstenger would be a better fit. Schweinstenger knows the German league is not the Premier League, so he probably does not have a "been there, done that" mentality because that is very dangerous - he needs to come in with the mentality to take on the biggest football challenge of his life. Something that Sneijder and Iniesta might have because Italy and Spanish league are by many considered equals to the Premier Leauge - but that is not true, the average Premier League team is superior to any other leagues. And I would sign Pastore above both of them.
Iniesta would probably been a great signing, but I would be very skeptical spending the £50m he would cost.
As I said, I do believe Iniesta is a better player. But I think Schweinstenger would be a better fit. Schweinstenger knows the German league is not the Premier League, so he probably does not have a "been there, done that" mentality because that is very dangerous - he needs to come in with the mentality to take on the biggest football challenge of his life. Something that Sneijder and Iniesta might have because Italy and Spanish league are by many considered equals to the Premier Leauge - but that is not true, the average Premier League team is superior to any other leagues. And I would sign Pastore above both of them.
Iniesta would probably been a great signing, but I would be very skeptical spending the £50m he would cost.
What a bunch of nonsense.
Ballack's contract was up and he was a few months short of turning 34. Of course, he'd have preferred to stay but his best days were behind him, the club needed to shed the wage bill and his exit was always the most likely outcome. Plus, the likes of Kakuta and McEachran need playing time and they'll never get it if we keep holding on to the players in their mid thirties.
I doubt Ballack is bitter about any of it, he's been in football long enough to know what the deal is, and it applies to both parties - players and clubs.
As for Real and MU comment, you lot are reading way too much into it.
In any case, only Schweinsteiger knows what he wants, and no matter what anyone says it'll be his decision in the end.
Concerning Lampard being in contention for the same spot. You do realize that Frank is already 32 and if Bayern decides to sell Schweiny in the summer 2011, he'll be already 33.
They are owned by a man with 11,5 billion dollars in the bank. They wanted to sign a younger kid, they did not need to do shit. They could have postponed signing Ramires, whom really only had one good season in Benfica to show so far. They probably would save a fortune by waiting one year with signing Ramires too because he had a good world cup that probably increased his value. Financially I bet they have very little gain to show for.
Ballack wanted to stay, and were great last season... If he was told to earn a new contract, he deserved it. I don't know what happened, it is all assumptions, but Ballack wanted to stay, few people are happy about getting thrown out against their will. But I doubt Ballack will go around recommending Chelsea around to everyone, because they clearly did not threat him exemplary.
I am sure Frank Lampard has years left despite being 32. And personally I don't believe Ferguson is after Schweinstenger... Ferguson rarely goes for those kind of names. But Manchester United would be a better option from a squad perspective because Chelesa has Lampard there as United clearly needs to do something with the midfield.
Wouldn't say no at a good price, that's for sure!!
Our midfield needs 2 top quality additions this summer. (How long have we been saying this!?)
Our midfield needs 2 top quality additions this summer. (How long have we been saying this!?)
You're about 4 months too late with that joke
It is still a joke. Thats why we are having problems with our midfield.
There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Schweinsteiger would be a feckin' collosal signing. Still not sure whether I'd want another midfielder in the squad on the basis that it might hinder the development of younger players coming through, but he's definitely a muppet's wet dream. Complete midfielder, really.
I'm all for giving youth a chance but which youngster is going to break through and become a regular in the next year or two? We had Anderson, Hargreaves, Carrick and Scholes three years back. It's still the same but without Hargreaves so another midfielder doesn't change anything. In fact with Scholes slowly fading out it makes all the more sense to add one or two even.
You have to first have your first team sorted, unless the youngsters can step in straight away and command a place.
I agree - he would be a fantastic signing - would love to see him and Fletcher in midfield, I think it would give us an excellent base and excellent balance.
As regards to the younger players who signing him my hinder, I think the age profile is pretty good.
For next season you would be looking at (possibly) Schweignsteiger, Feltcher, Anderson, Carrick, Gibson, James, Pogba and Morrison - with retirements of Giggs, Scholes and the release of Hargreaves.
Pogba and Morrison are possible loans, Gibson a possible sale, James may need to prove his worth within the squad next season - but may also go on loan a la Cleverley this season.
The following season is when you would be looking at Pogba, Morrison and James to start making a real impression, at which point Schweinsteiger would be 28, Fletcher 28, Carrick 31, Anderson 24 - while Morrison and Pogba would be 19 and James 21. That would give a very good balance in terms of ages and expectations.
I think signing a top class CM would have a bigger bearing on the younger lads if the signing was around 22 now, but as it is I don't think Schweinsteiger would present too big an issue to the young lads given their ages and probably career paths. It could even be the following season again before Morrison and Pogba would be considered to be ready for the first team (possible loan to championship club next season, possible loan to premiership club the following season)
Eikrem and Anderson have an excellent shot at making it here. I don't hold much hope for Gibson to be honest, but you've also the likes of Matthew James. It's a bit difficult to say anything about Petrucci given his situation with injuries, but then we can't guarantee (though it works both ways) that Pogba, Tunnicliffe and Morrison won't step up sooner rather than later.
I can accept the other side of the argument mind, and would agree that Schweinsteiger would present more of an immediate threat if he was a few years younger.
To be honest, I doubt even Fergie knows what he's going to do yet in regards to this situation.
There are rumours that Magnus Wolff Eikrem might be joining Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in Molde FK, and to be fair, right now he seems to be behind both Ando, Gibson and Cleverley right now as well - of course if Magnus developes into United material we can just buy him back. But Anderson might get there, however a bit of competition in the squad is only healthy...
Would be shocked if the King and Eikrem rumours amounted to anything more than a loan.
I think we may have our new Antwerp.
Eikrem does not have a contract longer than the end of this season, not sure if that will be renewed I am sure there is a long way into the United XI, 20 years old and not debuted yet... Perhaps a move like with Rossi with a buy-back clause. Eikrem would probably get a good development in Molde if Solskjaer is his manager.
Joshua King is younger than Eikrem, I think he would be far more unlikely to move on a permanent deal.
Joshua King is younger than Eikrem, I think he would be far more unlikely to move on a permanent deal.
I think you got your names mixed up here.
Eikrem would probably get a good development....
King is younger than Eikrem... is that what you meant to say?
Any move to Molde for Eikrem will be a loan deal only. He may not have made his first team debut yet but he had injury problems which have delayed his progression and there is no way he's going to be shipped out, he's a fantastic prospect.
I think a lot of people are overrating Eikrem a bit to be honest. He's definitely an interesting prospect but I have some doubts about him too.
This
looks like things are coming to a boil. Could be make or break for this muppet thread
If he is near a decision this far from when he could be sold I am guessing he will be signing that Bayern contract.
seems likely however to put a different spin on it he may decide soon so that Bayern can make the most off him (and not get stuck like werder and ozil)
Ballack: Schweinsteiger can reach potential at Man Utd | Premiership News | tribalfootball.com
Ballack: Schweinsteiger can reach potential at Man Utd
Michael Ballack says Bayern Munich star Bastian Schweinsteiger needs to move to Manchester United to fulfil his potential.
Midfielder Ballack, 34, left Chelsea in the summer to move to Bayer Leverkusen after helping the Blues see off United's challenge to claim a league and FA Cup Double.
But the Germany ace reckons his international team-mate would be the perfect recruit to help boost the Red Devils' ageing squad.
Schweinsteiger, 26, was one of the stars of the World Cup and helped lead the Germans to the semi-finals of the South Africa showpiece.
Yet with his contract at the Allianz Arena set to expire in 18 months time, a move to Old Trafford could appeal to the talented playmaker.
Ballack said: "Bastian has taken on the responsibility placed in him and is now in a phase when he is looking to reach the zenith of his career.
"He took a huge step forwards at the World Cup. He has presence, authority, personality, performance and goals. He has everything.
"Only he will be able to feel what is right for him for the future.
"Every footballer is attracted to certain things and Bastian will feel these also but there are not that many big clubs around and Bayern is one of them.
"But on the other hand, Real Madrid or Man United are both attractive and he would fit in well at both clubs."
Ballack: Schweinsteiger can reach potential at Man Utd
Michael Ballack says Bayern Munich star Bastian Schweinsteiger needs to move to Manchester United to fulfil his potential.
Midfielder Ballack, 34, left Chelsea in the summer to move to Bayer Leverkusen after helping the Blues see off United's challenge to claim a league and FA Cup Double.
But the Germany ace reckons his international team-mate would be the perfect recruit to help boost the Red Devils' ageing squad.
Schweinsteiger, 26, was one of the stars of the World Cup and helped lead the Germans to the semi-finals of the South Africa showpiece.
Yet with his contract at the Allianz Arena set to expire in 18 months time, a move to Old Trafford could appeal to the talented playmaker.
Ballack said: "Bastian has taken on the responsibility placed in him and is now in a phase when he is looking to reach the zenith of his career.
"He took a huge step forwards at the World Cup. He has presence, authority, personality, performance and goals. He has everything.
"Only he will be able to feel what is right for him for the future.
"Every footballer is attracted to certain things and Bastian will feel these also but there are not that many big clubs around and Bayern is one of them.
"But on the other hand, Real Madrid or Man United are both attractive and he would fit in well at both clubs."
Good man Ballack. I reckon he yet regrets snubbing us for Chelsea. Did not work out well for him and his career that.
I bet that's the first time those words have been posted together on the caf
And hopefully the last
Real may have Özil and Khadera but someone tell him Manchester has a German style Christmas Market
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