Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.

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He would be an excellent signing if he is available. Over the last few years United have been getting soft. They lack leadership and players who have a winning mentality to step up when things aren't going their way. Schweinsteiger is a leader and would be a huge influence on the team.
 
On the next year party he will come with Ana Ivanovic :drool: (guess i jinxed them now)
 
Would be a good signing only if we get another midfielder in as well.

We do already have Carrick, Fellaini, Blind & Herrara. I think Schweinstiger would be coming alone. Not to mention bringing through a Perrara.
 
If he's the only CM buy I definitely don't want him, we need a dynamic CM to add to what we have, we are way too one paced centrally with the only physicality we have coming in the form of a player with considerable athletic and technical limitations.
 
If he's the only CM buy I definitely don't want him, we need a dynamic CM to add to what we have, we are way too one paced centrally with the only physicality we have coming in the form of a player with considerable athletic and technical limitations.

You'd rather have no one to supplement the squad?
 
Schweinsteiger would be a great addition as 6, but I wouldn't want him at 8 mainly (only as alternative). If he rotates with Carrick I think that position has enough cover. We have a young squad and he'd be one of the few experienced additions, I still haven't written Blind off for the future at 6 yet and he will be backup to them.

I wouldn't want him as the only midfield addition though, since I think we lack physicality in the midfield. I would buy a strong younger midfielder at 8 aswell if we bring in Schweinsteiger.

In that we'd have 7 midfielders (including Mata) for 3 places, 2 of those are 30+. I think that would be enough.
 
This is our CM/DM options, in a 4-3-3: Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick and Blind.

If we want to compete in every competitions and be able to deal with injuries we will need two more options, at least. Signing Schweinsteiger would be good for us even he has a couple of bad injuries, but we would still be one midfielder short.
And no Di Maria isn't an option at the moment.

That's fine - if he's happy to come in and spend time sat on the bench if and when the squad is rotated. The reality is that a player of his calibre and experience will expect to start all of the big games when fit. For me, that limits options in terms of who else we can bring in as any younger, established midfield players are going to expect the same.

If we assume Herrera and Blind will start that leaves one place. Fine if he's fit, but whn he's not who comes in? No quality player is going to want to play only when he gets rotated in, or when someone else is injured, so having a quality player with injury issues who will play when fit puts off other players from joining. If we're looking for a top class player in midfield we should go after someone who can (based on previous performances at least) give us a full season of 35+ games without breaking down. if he can do that, fine. If not I'd swerve him. The fact that Bayern don't seem to be breaking their necks to keep him sets alarm bells ringing for me.
 
He's going out with Ana Ivanovic? Lucky feck.
 
Gerücht 1: Schweini verhandelt mit ManUnited
Nach dem „Kicker“ berichtet auch der englische „Daily Star“, dass Bastian Schweinsteiger (30) mit United in Verhandlungen steht – und auch vor Kurzem selbst in Manchester war.

Coach Louis van Gaal (63) kennt unseren Weltmeister noch aus gemeinsamen Bayern-Zeiten und will dem Bericht zufolge Schweini für rund 14 Millionen ins Old Trafford holen.

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Ein United-Funktionär soll dem Blatt gesagt haben: „Ja, Schweinsteiger ist jemand, an dem wir interessiert sind.“

Das ist wirklich dran: 0 Prozent! Pep Guardiola plant weiter mit Schweini im Zentrum. Der Münchner selbst will die Nationalmannschaft als Kapitän zum EM-Titel 2016 führen – und sich dafür als Stammspieler bei Bayern empfehlen.

http://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/...as-wirklich-dran-ist-41052842,var=a.bild.html
 
You do notice that Schweinsteiger is an upgrade from Carrick don't you?
 
IF he stays injury free he could potential be one of the best signings in recent years, he'd instantly add steel and leadership to our midfield. Even a player who none of our players know personally I've no doubt they'd respect him instantly.
 
LVG obviously isn't a fan of making rash purchase in the transfer market. There's a possibility that the correct midfielder for the managers system isn't currently in the market. In this case Schweinsteiger would be the perfect man to fill that gap for a year or two, until that perfect player comes a long. Who knows, maybe we already have him at the club.
 
Wir sprechen kein Deutsch , lad.

After the Kicker, the Daily Star also reports that Bastian Schweinsteiger is in talks with Manchester United - and that he even visited Manchester not long ago.
Louis van Gaal knows our World Cup winner from their time together at Bayern and he wants to buy him for 14m Euros.
A United offcial told the paper apparently: ''Yes, Schweinsteiger is someone we are interested in.''

The truth about the rumour: 0%. Pep still has Schweini in his plans in central midfield. Schweini wants to captain the National team to the win in the Euros 2016 and that he wants to recommend himself for that as a starting player at Bayern.
 
BILD article says 0% chance of Bastian moving. BILD are super good for Bayern info.

The paper that is in war with Schweinsteiger since years knows anything about what he wants to do?

It is not a Bayern thing. It is up to Schweinsteiger's decision what he wants to do - Rummenigge has stated this and Guardiola has stated it in the press conference today again. They want him to stay and plan with him - but it is up to him. If he wants to have a new contract he will get it. And I do not think that anybody right now - probably not even him - knows what he wants to do.
 
You do notice that Schweinsteiger is an upgrade from Carrick don't you?
exactly :lol: cant find anything wrong with the signing, he's only 30 for christ sake, wouldn't cost a fortune and why does everyone assume he's going to be on some monstrous 250k a week.
 
exactly :lol: cant find anything wrong with the signing, he's only 30 for christ sake, wouldn't cost a fortune and why does everyone assume he's going to be on some monstrous 250k a week.

He'll be 31 in August and do you really think he'll come here for less than what Bayern are paying and not be a top 5 earner at the club?
 
He'll be 31 in August and do you really think he'll come here for less than what Bayern are paying and not be a top 5 earner at the club?
well to put in into perspective, Carricks 34 in july, if schweinsteiger can come and have any sort of the impact carrick has on our side for the next 3 years, he would be worth every penny. and i would class schweinsteiger as arguably the better player and an improvement to the starting 11 although they would probably play together.

Bare with me, so I've done some incredibly dodgy maths here :lol:. right, so according to the info i briefly found online, schweinsteger is one of buyerns top earners on 10m euro a year. which is roughly 190k euros a week. translated to pounds would be just over 135k a week. and the tax differences between ourselves and the Germans is negligible. As some others who seem far more knowledgeable than me have mentioned, schweinstegers main pro's for agreeing to a move would in addition to getting a improved contract, be playing time and influence on making the next germany side for the euro's? and maybe even a veteran player for the 2018 world cup squad who knows. he would be a guaranteed starter for us, whereas with bayern he shares gametime with thiago, lahm, alaba, alonso, martinez and theres a few of their youngsters coming through i think(could be horribly wrong).

theres a lot of wiggle room for him to earn far more money with us, without having to go into the 200k a week plus territory. i would imagine the club would to to get him in line with mata at 150-160k on a deal long enough to secure his financial future should he get injuries. 150k might put him in the top 5, but that would be a fair wage for the impact he could potentially have on our team, he's a winner.
 
well to put in into perspective, Carricks 34 in july, if schweinsteiger can come and have any sort of the impact carrick has on our side for the next 3 years, he would be worth every penny. and i would class schweinsteiger as arguably the better player and an improvement to the starting 11 although they would probably play together.

Bare with me, so I've done some incredibly dodgy maths here :lol:. right, so according to the info i briefly found online, schweinsteger is one of buyerns top earners on 10m euro a year. which is roughly 190k euros a week. translated to pounds would be just over 135k a week. and the tax differences between ourselves and the Germans is negligible. As some others who seem far more knowledgeable than me have mentioned, schweinstegers main pro's for agreeing to a move would in addition to getting a improved contract, be playing time and influence on making the next germany side for the euro's? and maybe even a veteran player for the 2018 world cup squad who knows. he would be a guaranteed starter for us, whereas with bayern he shares gametime with thiago, lahm, alaba, alonso, martinez and theres a few of their youngsters coming through i think(could be horribly wrong).

theres a lot of wiggle room for him to earn far more money with us, without having to go into the 200k a week plus territory. i would imagine the club would to to get him in line with mata at 150-160k on a deal long enough to secure his financial future should he get injuries. 150k might put him in the top 5, but that would be a fair wage for the impact he could potentially have on our team, he's a winner.

Well I'm not that concerned about the money to be clear, I was just saying he'll definitely be in the upper tier of our wage earners. However as far as influence goes it's very hard to say, he's been injured for half of the last 2 seasons and the PL is not exactly conducive to gaining an improved injury record if you are starting to show signs of wear and tear as he is.

There's also the fact that I can only see him rotating with Carrick as he doesn't have the legs or engine to play the #8 role now, if the plan is to buy him to essentially phase out Carrick and become the experienced head with the great passing game in the #6 role then ok, but we'd still need another CM this summer to add some much needed mobility and energy to our midfield, as Ander is the only CM we have in that mold right now.
 
He'll be 31 in August and do you really think he'll come here for less than what Bayern are paying and not be a top 5 earner at the club?

Who cares? This squad is starving for leaders, there's no one there. Schweinsteiger is a great leader, he'll bring composure to the team and will permit the likes of Herrera, Di Maria and Blind to settle down. Also we would need to spend big money elsewhere specifically the defense.
 
Who cares? This squad is starving for leaders, there's no one there. Schweinsteiger is a great leader, he'll bring composure to the team and will permit the likes of Herrera, Di Maria and Blind to settle down. Also we would need to spend big money elsewhere specifically the defense.

I care that he''ll be 31 and is injured half of the time, I also don't see what effect he'll have on Di Maria as long as LvG insists on his rigid philosophy. Herrera has settled and so has Blind who's only a squad player anyway. How much money are you expecting to be spent on defense? £36M for the tatted up Argie from Valencia and £15-20M on a RB will be it, not exactly bank breaking for a club like United.
 
I am very optimistic, mainly because of LvG. Think he is exactly what we need, besides the injury problems. If we can keep him fit, perfect.
 
I care that he''ll be 31 and is injured half of the time, I also don't see what effect he'll have on Di Maria as long as LvG insists on his rigid philosophy. Herrera has settled and so has Blind who's only a squad player anyway. How much money are you expecting to be spent on defense? £36M for the tatted up Argie from Valencia and £15-20M on a RB will be it, not exactly bank breaking for a club like United.

First of all I think we need at least 3 defenders (2 CB and a RB). We cant afford our yearly defensive injury meltdown especially in a long league were we're competing on all 3 fronts. However that's not the main point. We lack leaders. The only one we have has an IQ of 50.

This year we've added 3 midfielders 2 of which hasn't yet fully settled down. Now there will be changes in defense which is a more delicate department to tackle.

Schweinsteiger is a great leader, he knows LVG tactics inside out and will not cost a lot. This signing will make even more sense if we're planning to also bring Gundogan in.
 
We seem to be linked to him every year until he inevitably comes out and says he is staying. I don't expect this time to be any different.
 
First of all I think we need at least 3 defenders (2 CB and a RB). We cant afford our yearly defensive injury meltdown especially in a long league were we're competing on all 3 fronts. However that's not the main point. We lack leaders. The only one we have has an IQ of 50.

This year we've added 3 midfielders 2 of which hasn't yet fully settled down. Now there will be changes in defense which is a more delicate department to tackle.

Schweinsteiger is a great leader, he knows LVG tactics inside out and will not cost a lot. This signing will make even more sense if we're planning to also bring Gundogan in.

Well I very much doubt you'll get the extra CB you want, not unless we are shipping Jones out as well. As for Rooney being the only leader, I disagree, I think Smalling and Herrera have both shown willingness to step up and be voices in this team, as has Young. However I am not against a leader coming in so that is by the by, but a leader is only of use if he's actually on the pitch to lead and not in the treatment room half the season.

We added 2 CM's, Blind and Herrera, both of whom have settled. Di Maria is a winger who spent half a season at Real Madrid as a hybrid AM/LW, not a role he'll be used in, in this league IMO.

The last part of sentence 3 is the key, as the player to sit at the base and take over from Carrick for £10M with us also bringing in a younger, dynamic #8? Yeah, I'd be fine with that.
 
Well I very much doubt you'll get the extra CB you want, not unless we are shipping Jones out as well. As for Rooney being the only leader, I disagree, I think Smalling and Herrera have both shown willingness to step up and be voices in this team, as has Young. However I am not against a leader coming in so that is by the by, but a leader is only of use if he's actually on the pitch to lead and not in the treatment room half the season.

We added 2 CM's, Blind and Herrera, both of whom have settled. Di Maria is a winger who spent half a season at Real Madrid as a hybrid AM/LW, not a role he'll be used in, in this league IMO.

The last part of sentence 3 is the key, as the player to sit at the base and take over from Carrick for £10M with us also bringing in a younger, dynamic #8? Yeah, I'd be fine with that.

If we bring 2 CB we won't need to ship anyone apart from Evans.

RB: Clyne, Valencia
CB: CB1, CB2, Jones, Smalling
LB: Shaw, Rojo

Also unfortunately I don't see we will see alot of Carrick in the very near future. Hence why we need a leader at the back. This midfield needs it.
 
Considering that:

(1) We're back in the CL barring a disastrous qualifying elimination, which should mean an extra 10ish games
(2) The amount of games Schweinsteiger and Carrick missed
(3) The amount of games Shaw missed and Blind being a better LB than Rojo
(4) Van Gaal not trusting Di Maria or Mata as a CM

I don't think we have to worry too much about having too much depth if we buy Schweinsteiger. We'd either play:

Herrera-Schweinsteiger (Fellaini, Pereira)
-----Carrick------------ (Blind)

or we'll buy a more offensive CM or play one of Mata or Di Maria there and use Schweinsteiger as the 6 and let Carrick back him up with Blind backing up Shaw and getting a few less games than he'd like at the 6. But most likely one of Carrick or Schweinsteiger misses time over the year and Blind gets his minutes. And even then, Carrick might only have another year as anything but a backup.
 
Considering that:

(1) We're back in the CL barring a disastrous qualifying elimination, which should mean an extra 10ish games
(2) The amount of games Schweinsteiger and Carrick missed
(3) The amount of games Shaw missed and Blind being a better LB than Rojo
(4) Van Gaal not trusting Di Maria or Mata as a CM

I don't think we have to worry too much about having too much depth if we buy Schweinsteiger. We'd either play:

Herrera-Schweinsteiger (Fellaini, Pereira)
-----Carrick------------ (Blind)

or we'll buy a more offensive CM or play one of Mata or Di Maria there and use Schweinsteiger as the 6 and let Carrick back him up with Blind backing up Shaw and getting a few less games than he'd like at the 6. But most likely one of Carrick or Schweinsteiger misses time over the year and Blind gets his minutes. And even then, Carrick might only have another year as anything but a backup.

If we lose the qualifier then we go straight into the Europa group stages, so it is an extra 10 games either way.
 
If we bring 2 CB we won't need to ship anyone apart from Evans.

RB: Clyne, Valencia
CB: CB1, CB2, Jones, Smalling
LB: Shaw, Rojo

Also unfortunately I don't see we will see alot of Carrick in the very near future. Hence why we need a leader at the back. This midfield needs it.

You are counting Rojo as a LB and not as a CB and also ignoring McNair, I doubt LvG sees it that way, I actually think Blind's immediate future will be as LB competition with Shaw.

Ok so lets say Carrick and Schweinsteiger are our two old, injury troubled #6 rotators, that still leaves us needing a top CM to add to the other 2 roles in midfield otherwise we'll end up with Rooney in there again or regularly using Fellaini.
 
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