Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.

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FC Ronaldo said:
Just out of interest, how is his English? I assume good because he seems a cultured and intelligent bloke but not seen or heard reports of it.
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Six years school English - a lot of holidays and using it with his teammates and his girlfriend.

Positions - 6/8 but sometimes even a 10 when really needed. Van Gaal used him in 10/11 higher up on the pitch when Robben was injured. Made a lot sense especially with Müller right and Ribery left as he is pretty good with headers for a guy 1,84m.

The thing with Schweinsteiger is that he is pretty complete. He does not have a specific strength but a very big range. I just would not play him twice a week in a box to box role and usually not too much in the offense as he is not really that dynamic - but partially in matches that makes sense.
 
Sultan said:
The reason we were exposed at the back whilst playing Di Maria as a midfielder was due to not having the correct midfielders to shield the defence. If Carrick had been fit or the defence good enough he would be perfectly suited and likely excel in that position. He probably had his best career season playing in that role at Madrid. The issue is not Di Maria but our lack suitable midfielders behind him...
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Even with Carrick playing it wont alter the fact that Di Maria carelessly gives the ball away a lot and is not physically suited to the midfield role in the PL, he looks scared of getting hit at this point.
 
My only worry would be if we played both he and Carrick frequently together. It should be one or the other, I feel. The loss in dynamism may be too much - Bayern have had similar issues with Schweinsteiger and Alonso this season, no? They are all pretty similar players.
 
Would be funny if we signed him and LvG reverse-Schweinsteiger'd Schweinsteiger and played him on the wing.

Schweinsteiger.
 
DWelbz19 said:
My only worry would be if we played both he and Carrick frequently together. It should be one or the other, I feel. The loss in dynamism may be too much - Bayern have had similar issues with Schweinsteiger and Alonso this season, no? They are all pretty similar players.
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No, their problem is that they miss their wide players, you can play with both of them, if you have a dynamic front four.
 
JPRouve said:
No, their problem is that they miss their wide players, you can play with both of them, if you have a dynamic front four.
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Of course, but continuously playing both Alonso and Schweinsteiger together certainly adds to their problems. I'm fairly sure I saw a Bayern fan make a thread about something similar on here.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Of course, but continuously playing both Alonso and Schweinsteiger together certainly adds to their problems. I'm fairly sure I saw a Bayern fan make a thread about something similar on here.
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Well they wasn't overly dynamic when Thiago played instead. Like Rouve said their wingers have been a big loss, especially when you have the new James Milner in Gotze.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Of course, but continuously playing both Alonso and Schweinsteiger together certainly adds to their problems. I'm fairly sure I saw a Bayern fan make a thread about something similar on here.
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No it doesn't, Schweinsteiger and Alonso provide dynamism threw their passes, not their runs, the problem is that they have no one at the end of the potential passes. Neither are supposed to run a lot.
 
JPRouve said:
No it doesn't, Schweinsteiger and Alonso provide dynamism threw their passes, not their runs, the problem is that they have no one at the end of the potential passes. Neither are supposed to run a lot.
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And that leaves the central midfield too one dimensional. There is more to the game than the width. I'm not saying either are meant to run a lot, but having two players fufilling the same role of sitting deep, intercepting play and contributing from deep is moot, it hinders squad balance.
 
DWelbz19 said:
And that leaves the central midfield too one dimensional. There is more to the game than the width. I'm not saying either are meant to run a lot, but having two players fufilling the same role of sitting deep, intercepting play and contributing from deep is moot, it hinders squad balance.
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You are not making a lot of sense here, they are only one dimensional because they lost their wide players.
 
JPRouve said:
You are not making a lot of sense here, they are only one dimensional because they lost their wide players.
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No, you aren't. Central midfield will not function well if it lacks balance. Having two tumescent #6's does that. It's that simple.
 
DWelbz19 said:
No, you aren't. Central midfield will not function well if it lacks balance. Having two tumescent #6's does that. It's that simple.
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So according to you, they are unbalanced because they play two #6 and not because they have no Wide players? And what do you mean by dynamism?
 
It's quite clear this isn't going anywhere.

Do you think we would be okay playing Carrick and Schweinsteiger together, frequently?
 
DWelbz19 said:
It's quite clear this isn't going anywhere.

Do you think we would be okay playing Carrick and Schweinsteiger together, frequently?
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It depends on how we want to play and who is around them. If we are a possession team, yes. If we are a counter attacking team, no.
 
The problem with Schweinsteiger and Alonso was that both play their best football with the team in front of them and constantly want to drop into the same deep lying position. They were either standing on each others feet or one of them looked uncomfortable pushed into a different role. When Schweinsteiger was partnered with van Bommel/Gustavo/Martinez/Khedira in the past 5 years, he was always the deepest midfielder while the other one either had man-marking jobs or played box to box.

In the last few weeks it looked like Schweinsteiger started to adapt to the role further forward, so I wouldn't rule it out that he can make it work next to Carrick. But it was a huge problem for us, that wasn't caused by the lack of quality wide players in our team.
 
DWelbz19 said:
It's quite clear this isn't going anywhere.

Do you think we would be okay playing Carrick and Schweinsteiger together, frequently?
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Nope one or the other. Schweinsteiger in Europe and Carrick in the league ideally if they stay fit all the time. Plenty of games to go around for everyone hopefully, with long runs in the FA cup and League cup as well.

In fact I'd keep Perreira rather than sending him out on loan if we sign Schweinsteiger. He'd be first choice back up to Herrera, and there wouldn't be a problem with him playing regularly with the security of a Schweinsteiger or a Carrick behind him.

----Midfielder/Fellaini---Herrera/Perreira
-------------Schweinsteiger/Carrick

Blind covering all 3 positions + left back.
 
Skills said:
Nope one or the other. Schweinsteiger in Europe and Carrick in the league ideally if they stay fit all the time. Plenty of games to go around for everyone hopefully, with long runs in the FA cup and League cup as well.

In fact I'd keep Perreira rather than sending him out on loan if we sign Schweinsteiger. He'd be first choice back up to Herrera, and there wouldn't be a problem with him playing regularly with the security of a Schweinsteiger or a Carrick behind him.

----Midfielder/Fellaini---Herrera/Perreira
-------------Schweinsteiger/Carrick

Blind covering all 3 positions + left back.
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That's what I'd like to see, also.
 
Balu said:
In the last few weeks it looked like Schweinsteiger started to adapt to the role further forward, so I wouldn't rule it out that he can make it work next to Carrick. But it was a huge problem for us, that wasn't caused by the lack of quality wide players in our team.
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Yes. It would be Bastian or Carrick in the team. They'd be easily enough games for both players next season if injured or rotated.
 
A goal on his 500th game for Bayern as they lift the title. Fitting way to sign off don't you think... :drool:
 
izec said:
Any tears today after his last game for Bayern?
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:lol:

I personally wouldn't be too happy if we get him. First of all he is injury prone and second, well i know he is a good player but is he all that?
 
I wouldn't surprised be if these rumours were fuelled to force Bayern into giving him a better contract. I say this because of the reply given by Pep that it was for the player to make the decision.
 
Would certainly give us better depth to the midfield even at his age, but I would prefer a younger option who is going to improve rather than decline in the near future.
 
Sultan said:
I wouldn't surprised be if these rumours were fuelled to force Bayern into giving him a better contract. I say this because of the reply given by Pep that it was for the player to make the decision.
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I am fairly certain that it’s not about money/a new contract. He´d get a well-paid extension (like Lahm), if he wants one.
 
PedroMendez said:
I am fairly certain that it’s not about money/a new contract. He´d get a well-paid extension (like Lahm), if he wants one.
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It is about career planning with him. The question if and when he goes abroad is not a money question.
 
PedroMendez said:
I am fairly certain that it’s not about money/a new contract. He´d get a well-paid extension (like Lahm), if he wants one.
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I'm hoping that would be the case. Would love to have at United even at the twilight of his career.
 
Sultan said:
I wouldn't surprised be if these rumours were fuelled to force Bayern into giving him a better contract. I say this because of the reply given by Pep that it was for the player to make the decision.
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I'm certain this is the case; it annoys me the amount of times players use us to their benefit.
 
Balu said:
The problem with Schweinsteiger and Alonso was that both play their best football with the team in front of them and constantly want to drop into the same deep lying position. They were either standing on each others feet or one of them looked uncomfortable pushed into a different role. When Schweinsteiger was partnered with van Bommel/Gustavo/Martinez/Khedira in the past 5 years, he was always the deepest midfielder while the other one either had man-marking jobs or played box to box.

In the last few weeks it looked like Schweinsteiger started to adapt to the role further forward, so I wouldn't rule it out that he can make it work next to Carrick. But it was a huge problem for us, that wasn't caused by the lack of quality wide players in our team.
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He looked a really good wide midfield player in the 2006 world cup, so he is more versatile than his recent years at Bayern would suggest.
 
The "no comment" bit is really interesting.

Maybe he meant nothing by that and it was just an innocuous reply. Or maybe from a pessimistic vantage point he's using our rumored interest as leverage. But Schweinsteiger is Bayern through and through, an icon of the team. With players of that standing at the club (Xavi at Barcelona or Neville at United as parallel examples), it's essentially a case of them having lifetime contracts from the management's end, because they have earned that kind of respect and mostly leave on their own terms. Bayern aren't exactly cash strapped, they are not going to shaft one of their own over a bit of money, and have the financial prowess to offer him whatever he wants - so it doesn't come across as a negotiation tactic.

Could be 100 % wrong but perhaps the United link is more concrete than we'd imagined, maybe he feels like he has won everything with Bayern and needs a new challenge before hanging up his boots. This might be his last opportunity to play for another elite club and that might factor into his decision, more-so than a bigger pay packet. Schweinsteiger seems to be someone who appreciates the football culture of other clubs, he has always spoken in glowing terms of United - from the stadium to the supporters; and apparently Cantona was one of his idols while growing up. Plus, he has a good working relationship with Van Gaal (unlike Kroos) and Tobias Schweinsteiger might be getting on his case :

Meine große fußballerische Liebe war dann Manchester United.
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http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussba...egensburg-bruder-bastian-schweintsteiger.html

:drool:
 
The Man Himself said:
Did he wave goodbye to Bayern fans after the match? :drool:
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Ivanovic would be a nice addition to the WAG's squad.

Seriously though, I'd love him here. He was my dream signing in more than a few transfer windows.
 
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