Don't agree with this at all
So you'd say this schweinsteiger is better than the one from 2 or 3 years ago ?
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Don't agree with this at all
So you'd say this schweinsteiger is better than the one from 2 or 3 years ago ?
Firstly there's no way you'd get Gundogen in for half what Bastian is asking. Not when Barcelona and Arsenal are also linked.
Secondly, what's this £20m resale value you lumped on his fee?
When BBC reports something, it's happening
BBC reported Fabregas and Vidal.
Yeah man, and also the time-consumer of gettin rid of players. Just hope Ed's got a separate team sortin that out & we're not wastin valuable time on our deadwood such as Evans..
The BBC have expanded on their story a little, basically giving context to how we want our summer transfer dealings to go. Mention the possible interest of signing Harry Kane, and our earlier interest in Dani Alves. Nothing new to most of us.
No I wouldn't, I would say most of the top CMs in the world at present are in that age group, I could be wrong mind you.
Schweinsteiger is likely more the exception, however there does come a transition period when CMs get to that sort of age.
Absolutely Cass. One can only dream tbh, but its what we need to compete for the title & the Champion's League etc..
Right my annual 'if we sign him i will do x thing in x place' post...
If we sign Schweini i will bring a ghetto blaster to work and i will run across to piccadilly train station in the nude with Du Hast by Rammstein booming out of said Ghetto Blaster.
If we sign Schweini i will bring a ghetto blaster to work and i will run across to piccadilly train station in the nude with Du Hast by Rammstein booming out of said Ghetto Blaster.
Schweinsteiger would be a terrific signing if we can keep him fit. Very injury prone but ticks the right boxes in midfield. Can play on the wing too where he began if I remember.
Hes not the long term solution, but superb addition to the squad. A real winner this guy.
Hes not the long term solution, but superb addition to the squad. A real winner this guy.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NEIN!
You can't run to a song like that. A strong march would be more apt.
Firstly there's no way you'd get Gundogen in for half what Bastian is asking. Not when Barcelona and Arsenal are also linked.
Secondly, what's this £20m resale value you lumped on his fee?
It is a hyphotetical resale value
If you buy a younger player at the end of his contract they are still young enough to either to sell to another club for a good fee or to sign up on another contract (which means you don't have to find a replacement and also saves a transfer fee). The £20m is a hyphotetical value obviously.
The thing is when we sign Schweinsteiger up for a 4 year contract at the end of that contract he'll be worthless and we won't get a penny for him and he'll likely won't be good enough anymore for us either meaning we'll be needing to look for a replacement.
Sign a younger player (for example Gündogan) and you know at the end of his contract he'll be good enough for another contract of meaning we won't need a replacement but can just renew. And if we don't renew than atleast we can sell him and make some of our money back.
It is the same with RVP he was worth the transfer fee 3 years ago, now he is at the end of his contract there is hardly any resale value and not good enough that anybody would want us to renew with him for the next 3-4 years. So we end up needing to find a replacement. Had we signed a player 5 years younger we wouldn't have to do that.
Obviously the resale value is always higher the younger you sign a player. But it something a lot of people tend to forget especially when it concerns these 30 year old players.
Naturally you need to compare the cost of the investment to the benefits. It may you think Schweinsteiger for 4 years it worth it.
..........................Valdes..........................
Fabinho......Otamendi.....Ramos..........Shaw
..........Ander.......Schwein.....Di Maria........
..........Mata.........Rooney.....Depay...........
Make it happen.
Fabinho......Otamendi.....Ramos..........Shaw
..........Ander.......Schwein.....Di Maria........
..........Mata.........Rooney.....Depay...........
Make it happen.
If the reported fees are correct, we could have both for 32-33million.
Schneiderlin is good. Imagine how good he could be if he spent 2 years training alongside Scweinsteiger every day!
He can play on the wing but it was LvG himself who moved him to the DM position so we shouldn't expect that versatility.
Looks average.
I don't like Mata out wide, makes most lineups look worse to me.
I'd prefer...
..........................Valdes..........................
Fabinho......Smalling.....Otamendi........Shaw
.........Schweinsteiger.....Schneiderlin..........
.........................Herrera.........................
...Di Maria..................................Depay....
.........................Rooney..........................
Probably the best option. Plenty of pace, trickery, and variety. Obviously Mata will routinely swap out with Herrera and Di Maria since no one is likely to stay injury free all year.
It's actually hard-pressed to find players that are more of a winner than those two. Both have won it all, their experience is invaluable.
Very true. Both have recently won WCs and CLs so it wouldn't get any better in terms of experience. If all this is true, and I'm still a bit skeptical, then excellent (attempted) moves from LvG. We would have top class experience (Rooney, Schweini, Ramos, Valdes) at every part of the pitch.
So no room left for easily our best midfielder of the last season or pretty much any of the last 6 or so seasons?
BBC are only reporting that we are interested - not that we are likely to get them. Ramos will be very difficult and, as I broke a few days ago, Schweinsteiger is unlikely to leave BayernWhen BBC reports something, it's happening
So no room left for easily our best midfielder of the last season or pretty much any of the last 6 or so seasons?
Plenty of room
So no room left for easily our best midfielder of the last season or pretty much any of the last 6 or so seasons?
Who, Carrick ?
When are people going to realise it is done, over, basta, finito for Michael Carrick here at United ?
He is more injurred than not. He is turning 34 this season. Van Gaal explicitly said his nr1 priority this season is finding a replacement for Carrick.
No sir there is no place for Michael Carrick to be a starter next season. Even if there was he won't be starting because he won't be fit to play 75% of the time !
People that sill have Carrick in their lign ups for next season need a reality check !
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I totally disagree.
Are we behind on getting a replacment in on time, and managing the transition? Yes, absolutely. By now we should have a replacement getting bedded in, and Carrick's game-time should be managed accordingly.
But on the basis of how he's been playing, should he be in our first XI right now? Absolutely. At some point before too long he won't be able to do it anymore, but as of right now he's still our best midfielder.
Young will be competing with Depay for his placeSo no room left for easily our best midfielder of the last season or pretty much any of the last 6 or so seasons?
Carrick, Schwei and Schnei can cover 2 positions easily. one of the first two will be injured at least part of the season. no biggie.
Obviously because Blind is better as a leftback and Fellaini and Herrera are better as attacking midfielders.
So not much competition for that position. That is why we need to bring in a replacement like Schneiderlin or Schweinsteiger. And when we do they will play and not Carrick and rightly so.
I don't think it is about 2 positions i think it is about 1 position.
The other position on the midfield will be going to Herrera
And the other will go to Di Maria/Rooney/Fellaini
He'll play plenty of football next year. Seeing out matches with his composure and experience will be key, as well as stronger European ties.
I really hope we get both. The more midfielders, the better! As long as they are of a good enough quality for the first team, we should be trying to get some depth for Carrick's position and for the box to box.
He's had two injuries... Two.
He played 18 league games, its a worry but hopefully next season he is around more often.
Hes turning 34, need to start thinking about life after Carrick
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Yea and Falcao and Valdes had one but both been a year out of rotation and Strootman had 2 also been a year out of rotation.
Carrick had two serious injurrys and he has hardly played for us in the last 2 years turning 34 now. It is over him, get to grips with it !
For someone who's played 40+ games a season for the last 8 seasons, one season with a couple of injuries is pretty much par for the course. Paul Scholes had a similar season 05/06 and afterwards went on to produce 3-4 of his best seasons yet.
I'm not saying we shouldn't be looking for his replacement, but to say he's finished because of 2 injuries is ridiculous.
The last 2 years? He played 40 games for us 13/14. He's had one season interrupted by 2 injuries and in between these 2 injuries has shown nothing that illustrates his legs have gone or are going (ala Falcao).
In fact if you were to ask everyone our best midfielder of the season per minute played I'm quite sure Carrick would win conclusively. I'm just glad people on here don't run the club - Scholes would've been consigned to the scrapheap at 30 after 1 injury plagued year.
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