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I repeat myself.
It has to be a personal thing, maybe Schweinsteiger said something to Mourinho we don't know about. I know he had fitness issues last season but the fact we've had one central midfielder(Herrera) play well this season, everyone else has been poor or inconsistent,, surely there is a thought to give him an opportunity. He was quite decent at the Euros too so there's still a bit left in his locker and he clearly wants a chance, so yeah I think something has gone on with Mourinho there tbh.
 



Funny... no, I still think it's sad. A sad end to his great career.
 
If the manager does not want a player in his team, he stays out. Simple.
 
Eight pages in his performance thread without a single appearance this season is seriously impressive stuff.
 
What do people really think he can offer? As far as I'm aware he took the mick last season in terms of calling off sick while on walkabouts (correct me if i'm wrong) and his performances weren't particularly impressive. He's another one who is physically past it and on the ball what are you getting? He doesn't pass as well as Carrick or find players like he does, he doesn't defend as well as Schneiderlin and he isn't an all round player n the mould of Herrera. At his best Schweinsteiger was a midfield engine, he would run the oppositions midfield into the ground, with his tackling, passing, covering ground, contributing to the attack. He's a shadow of that player now. I personally don't think he will bring any quality that we need. His time as a top level player is over. He was never the best passer or creator or someone who controlled games with the ball. So what exactly would he do for us?
 
What's he actually up to these days?

Is he training with the reserves? He's not playing matches for them is he? Strange situation.
 
The team would be better off with Bastian Carrick and Pogba in a 3 man midfield there is no doubt in my mind about this.
 
What's he actually up to these days?

Is he training with the reserves? He's not playing matches for them is he? Strange situation.
Apparently, he's upped his fitness regime. Guess he's preparing for the MLS.
 
The team would be better off with Bastian Carrick and Pogba in a 3 man midfield there is no doubt in my mind about this.

Bastian AND Carrick? No thank you very much. One old timer who can't run would suffice.
 
The team would be better off with Bastian Carrick and Pogba in a 3 man midfield there is no doubt in my mind about this.

I think Herrera deserves his place he's the only player we have that plays like he gives a feck.

Herrera Pogba
-----Carrick
 
I think Herrera deserves his place he's the only player we have that plays like he gives a feck.

Herrera Pogba
-----Carrick
Problem is that Carrick can't play every match and Bastien is the only other player who even comes close to offering the control that Carrick gives us.
 
What do people really think he can offer? As far as I'm aware he took the mick last season in terms of calling off sick while on walkabouts (correct me if i'm wrong) and his performances weren't particularly impressive. He's another one who is physically past it and on the ball what are you getting? He doesn't pass as well as Carrick or find players like he does, he doesn't defend as well as Schneiderlin and he isn't an all round player n the mould of Herrera. At his best Schweinsteiger was a midfield engine, he would run the oppositions midfield into the ground, with his tackling, passing, covering ground, contributing to the attack. He's a shadow of that player now. I personally don't think he will bring any quality that we need. His time as a top level player is over. He was never the best passer or creator or someone who controlled games with the ball. So what exactly would he do for us?
Schweinsteiger's performances at the Euro this summer against Italy and France shit on everything Fellaini, Schneiderlin or Herrera have ever done in their career, in pretty much all aspects a midfield allrounder can show. He probably isn't able to play on that level week in/week out, but the notion that he couldn't help the team with his performance level of 2016 at all is very silly.

And he wasn't worse than the other midfielders last season either, as far as I know the results in the league got worse once he was longterm injured.

Fair enough if you don't want him in the team at all, but then you really deserve to watch Fellaini or Schneiderlin regularly.
 
Schweinsteiger's performances at the Euro this summer against Italy and France shit on everything Fellaini, Schneiderlin or Herrera have ever done in their career, in pretty much all aspects a midfield allrounder can show. He probably isn't able to play on that level week in/week out, but the notion that he couldn't help the team with his performance level of 2016 at all is very silly.

And he wasn't worse than the other midfielders last season either, as far as I know the results in the league got worse once he was longterm injured.

Fair enough if you don't want him in the team at all, but then you really deserve to watch Fellaini or Schneiderlin regularly.
It was a daft decision by Mourinho to freeze him out like that and I agree with everything you've said particularly the points in bold. It's just that most people defer to the manager too much in forming their opinions that arguing with them becomes useless as we have seen in countless debates before. Carrick and Schweinsteiger are the only players we have with the intelligence and talent to run a midfield yet both have been frozen out in favour of agricultural players who can only play at one speed and panic instead of cooling things down when the team is up against it. Bastien wasn't pulling up trees last season but the way people are rewriting history to paint a picture of a player who never contributed last season is laughable.
Mourinho could learn a lot from how Ferguson managed Scholes and Giggs in the latter part of their careers then apply that to Ibrahimovic, Carrick, Rooney and Schweinsteiger.
 
If I recall correctly, he wasn't your worst midfielder even with injury and fitness problems.

That says it all, doesn't it? He was about ok. He conserved his energy for the Euros. And we paid for that. Mou did well to junk him.
 
Schweinsteiger's performances at the Euro this summer against Italy and France shit on everything Fellaini, Schneiderlin or Herrera have ever done in their career, in pretty much all aspects a midfield allrounder can show. He probably isn't able to play on that level week in/week out, but the notion that he couldn't help the team with his performance level of 2016 at all is very silly.

And he wasn't worse than the other midfielders last season either, as far as I know the results in the league got worse once he was longterm injured.

Fair enough if you don't want him in the team at all, but then you really deserve to watch Fellaini or Schneiderlin regularly.
Agreed.
 
Carrick and Schweinsteiger can still offer something to the team, in certain games, in certain tactics. Crazy to marginalize one completely and use the other rarely.
 
Think how many goals could have been prevented yesterday with some proper pointing.
Preventing goals? Feck that. Imagine how many chances we could've had if we had a player actually pointing toward the opposing goal!
 
Schweinsteiger's performances at the Euro this summer against Italy and France shit on everything Fellaini, Schneiderlin or Herrera have ever done in their career, in pretty much all aspects a midfield allrounder can show. He probably isn't able to play on that level week in/week out, but the notion that he couldn't help the team with his performance level of 2016 at all is very silly.

And he wasn't worse than the other midfielders last season either, as far as I know the results in the league got worse once he was longterm injured.

Fair enough if you don't want him in the team at all, but then you really deserve to watch Fellaini or Schneiderlin regularly.

He's passed it.
 
For me, one of Bastian/Carrick should have always started as the #6 behind Pogba and Herrera.

Rotate Bastian/Carrick to keep them fit. This is what I would of done, I have no idea why Jose hasn't even tried it with Carrick. Our squad lacks experience and leadership, Bastian is a world cup winning captain ffs.
 
Bastian is a world cup winning captain ffs.

He really isn't. When is this myth ever going to die? Lahm was the German Captain in Brazil 2014.
 
He really isn't. When is this myth ever going to die? Lahm was the German Captain in Brazil 2014.
We had so many captain's material players in that squad, it tends to be confusing - Schweinsteiger, Neuer, Lahm, Boateng, Müller... ;)

Jokes aside, Lahm may have carried the armband, but Schweinsteiger definitely was the commanding presence on the pitch. And unsurprisingly he was our captain officially after Lahm's retirement. So he may not have been captain at the 2014 WC, but he won it, and he was captain at some point - makes the statement ALMOST correct :P
 
He really isn't. When is this myth ever going to die? Lahm was the German Captain in Brazil 2014.

Watch the final against Argentina and tell me Bastian isn't the leader of that side.
 
For me, one of Bastian/Carrick should have always started as the #6 behind Pogba and Herrera.

Rotate Bastian/Carrick to keep them fit. This is what I would of done, I have no idea why Jose hasn't even tried it with Carrick. Our squad lacks experience and leadership, Bastian is a world cup winning captain ffs.
He absolutely should think about that but of course it won't happen.
 
Schweinsteiger's performances at the Euro this summer against Italy and France shit on everything Fellaini, Schneiderlin or Herrera have ever done in their career, in pretty much all aspects a midfield allrounder can show. He probably isn't able to play on that level week in/week out, but the notion that he couldn't help the team with his performance level of 2016 at all is very silly.

And he wasn't worse than the other midfielders last season either, as far as I know the results in the league got worse once he was longterm injured.

Fair enough if you don't want him in the team at all, but then you really deserve to watch Fellaini or Schneiderlin regularly.

this.
 
Pogba really benefitted from playing next to very intelligent defensive midfielders at Juventus. If you pay 120M for him, you´d think you put somebody at his side that can play a similar role as Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio and Khedira. Btw not the worst company to keep for Pogba. :lol:

So I´d at least try Carrick or Schweinsteiger to play the maestro role, until I can get a younger version of them. If you play Martial, Rashford, Mkhitaryan and Pogba in midfield, do you really need a 5th guy with pace and legs, or somebody who holds the controls and navigates the team?
 
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