Probably nothing is going to be made about this but at least I've got a good laughs from all of this. 
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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I know right, you guys should ask for your bribe money back
Crazy news about the bribes. I always saw Barca as a pillar of football, but turns out they are as corrupt as PSG and City.
Sad days for football.
Sad days for football.
The onslaught of "evidence" that Barcelona were actually being robbed when they were paying off a guy involved with refs reminds me of when Messi's insane contract leaked and a bunch of articles came out saying actually he is responsible for 500% of revenue so he's playing for free.
Just a link to a man who had immediate access to referees just before a game.
No biggie
I paid a hitman to kill my wife and he shot me and ran off with her instead, therefore I'm innocent.
This post is just...wow.
It's worth coming in this thread for @Niemans alone, Laporta himself could not do a better job.
It’s certainly kept Niemans busy!Probably nothing is going to be made about this but at least I've got a good laughs from all of this.
But to assume I paid the hitman to shoot her, because you found my money on him is enough to be guilty? Because there can't be any other reasons he has my money for, right?
And here I thought, in democracies you are innocent until proven guilty. Seems like most of the posters here don't follow that basic human rights principle sadly.
More than a club, indeed.
Can you imagine using this line on your wife if she found out a hitman had a check signed by you?
I don't deny these payments are shady as feck and look very badly for our club again. Just point out the basic human rights we have in the EU. Some people need to be reminded of that.
I also don't know if barca alone does/did this, or other clubs do/did it too and some people thought it's the perfect moment to ruin barca's good spirit right now with news, that sound worse than they are actually.
The persecutor for Messi's tax fraud sits often with Perez in his VIP box. Such things happen often in spain. If there's a conspiracy behind it or it just looks bad? I don't know as an outsider.
We are outsiders and can only guess until official investigation is done and you all don't need to fear. Tebas hates barca, so he will never let this opportunity slide if he can damage us. I for my part will wait and see and until then, enjoy our great form with hopefully a win tonight.
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No other ref could have got you to that 2009 final
On average 1500 spectators more than Dortmund = "by far the highest attendance in Europe".
How can anybody look into it when there isn’t a record or evidence of any work being carried out?
What’s being looked into?
Indeed. Lovely bunch of chaps.
Imagine if a sporting organisation tried to do some of the things they've done in Germany or the UK. For all the banter about corruption in Italy, they do eventually get around to punishing clubs like in the case of Juventus.
But nothing is normal down there due to the politics involved. The PR motor of Catalan independence cannot be allowed to be stopped or besmirched and half of Spain goes along with it. Laporta could go on the field and punch a ref and they'd spin it into the ref being a card carrying member of Real Madrid with ties to Franco that insulted Xavi's mother and nothing would happen.
This is parroted a lot on the internet but this principle is designed for and thankfully only applies to actual legal systems, not to general public opinion. There is a United footballer under contract that could be used as a very recent and relevant example of why this distinction exists.
Look at Barca bots doing their thing. When bad things come their way, they just point to somewhere else.
Me paying for more than 15 years to the refs?
Well, the bribes weren't even that helpful. Real also got a shady pen once. There is no proof that the money come from us (as we didn't audit it). Well, what if other teams did too? you cannot simple blame only us. How can this piece of information ruin our reputation? we were just playing so magnificently.
Me paying for more than 15 years to the refs?
Well, the bribes weren't even that helpful. Real also got a shady pen once. There is no proof that the money come from us (as we didn't audit it). Well, what if other teams did too? you cannot simple blame only us. How can this piece of information ruin our reputation? we were just playing so magnificently.
Don’t know. OJ Simpson seems pretty innocent to me.
Apparently tomorrow El Mundo is going to publish more material and Marca brings an interview with Ramón Mendoza (former president of Madrid) in 1994 where he already names Enríquez Negreira:
"there are indications of presumed sports corruption", "There is a great concern in hundreds of thousands of people in the performance of Enríquez Negreira from Barcelona. It will be necessary to try that the referees do not talk before the matches always with the same person. It creates a climate of unnecessary tension in a wonderful collective".
Another famous referee of the time, Andújar Oliver says:
"Enríquez Negreira's son, who was also involved in the Technical Committee, used to call the referees to tell them which hotel he was in and told them that he would take them to the field. Until 2018 he has been their coach, that is to say, the referees have given this gentleman all their information and thoughts while he had them in his hands".
"there are indications of presumed sports corruption", "There is a great concern in hundreds of thousands of people in the performance of Enríquez Negreira from Barcelona. It will be necessary to try that the referees do not talk before the matches always with the same person. It creates a climate of unnecessary tension in a wonderful collective".
Another famous referee of the time, Andújar Oliver says:
"Enríquez Negreira's son, who was also involved in the Technical Committee, used to call the referees to tell them which hotel he was in and told them that he would take them to the field. Until 2018 he has been their coach, that is to say, the referees have given this gentleman all their information and thoughts while he had them in his hands".
So when does this old man turn on Barca to stay out of jail?
Your wife should get a points deduction for that.
Can’t wait until we have one of the best young striker in world football back next year. I’m sure there will be no blowback for that
We arent in the EU........... keep your pesky rights to yourself.
The level of corruption in Spain in general is pretty insane, but Barça just take it to another level.
If you told ChatGPT to write a long rambling post about how Barca can’t do anything wrong, and add the most recent allegations, you’d get a Niemans post typed out for you.
Audios of Florentino Pérez and the media.
Audios
- " Now, let's see, calm down. We must win the battle of Marca and Spanish television.
And with that isolate not to the País (most important newspaper in Spain) that does not misbehave. But to Relaño and De La Morena".
- "The Rondo will not exist anymore. We're seeing how many years he has on his contract to change everything. If it is for months he fulminates right away. If it is by season we will have to wait for the summer season".
- "Luis Fernández is a Madrid Taliban. And I'm going to tell you one thing, he already took the contract from Roberto Gómez. The Rondo will not exist anymore.
It is going to be a Madrid program by Ferreras (corrupt journalist famous Spanish)".
- La 1 ( Spanish television), he won't tell you but I tell you. It will change totally.
They have included a director who is one of ours, Luis Fernández. And he's going to put an end to all that Rondo stuff."
" And all that will be fine. And now we will only have the Marca . You have to take the Marca . Because with the Marca and Spanish television it's all over, they no longer have anyone".
Then I will put the audio and the transcript where he already puts the Marca director (Eduardo Inda). The most unfortunate time where much controversy was generated .
Florentino Pérez's puppets create narratives and people believe them. That's how the world goes.
Audios
- " Now, let's see, calm down. We must win the battle of Marca and Spanish television.
And with that isolate not to the País (most important newspaper in Spain) that does not misbehave. But to Relaño and De La Morena".
- "The Rondo will not exist anymore. We're seeing how many years he has on his contract to change everything. If it is for months he fulminates right away. If it is by season we will have to wait for the summer season".
- "Luis Fernández is a Madrid Taliban. And I'm going to tell you one thing, he already took the contract from Roberto Gómez. The Rondo will not exist anymore.
It is going to be a Madrid program by Ferreras (corrupt journalist famous Spanish)".
- La 1 ( Spanish television), he won't tell you but I tell you. It will change totally.
They have included a director who is one of ours, Luis Fernández. And he's going to put an end to all that Rondo stuff."
" And all that will be fine. And now we will only have the Marca . You have to take the Marca . Because with the Marca and Spanish television it's all over, they no longer have anyone".
Then I will put the audio and the transcript where he already puts the Marca director (Eduardo Inda). The most unfortunate time where much controversy was generated .
Florentino Pérez's puppets create narratives and people believe them. That's how the world goes.
ChatGPT even when asked to be rambling will be more coherent - this guy lives in an alternate reality.
If you say ChatGPT to write the definition of abhorred and manipulated people define you and a few others like you.
But it's the same as always. Not a single argument gives. You hate Barcelona and you believe the narrative that makes you happier, not reality. Good for you, ignorance is happiness.
Bro, stop embarrasing yourself. This comes directly from the Spanish Tax Agency. Flo has nothing to do with It. This corruption came to light only because the referee did not manage to hide the payments (wich makes you wonder what other things are still hidden)
Here is the oficial document for those of you who can read Spanish. The highlighed part is pretty damn straightforward.
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Tebas is a disgrace. He is so fast when criticizing other leagues but now it seems like he has nothing to say. What a hipocrite
Florentino's influence on the press has nothing to do with it.
By the way look at the front pages of Sport and Mundo Deportivo today, not a single reference. Although they do point out that Madrid won with two penalties.
Everyone "knows" Real Madrid is shady and corrupt, that doesn't mean Barcelona is the opposite.
Whataboutism: Instead of defending your position, simply deflecting and accusing someone else of having done something else.
It really elevates the discourse.
It really elevates the discourse.
Barcelona paid this money to a company called Dasnil 95.
The company's website does not exist anymore but you can find it on the Internet Archive. Here are links to what it looked like in 2013 and 2019. In both links, it claims to be a company that sells merchandising gifts for businesses.
According to various reports, 90% of their income was from services to Barcelona. When the ref man stopped being part of the ref thing in 2018, their income dropped to 7k the next year, and since then they've made no money.
The company's website does not exist anymore but you can find it on the Internet Archive. Here are links to what it looked like in 2013 and 2019. In both links, it claims to be a company that sells merchandising gifts for businesses.
According to various reports, 90% of their income was from services to Barcelona. When the ref man stopped being part of the ref thing in 2018, their income dropped to 7k the next year, and since then they've made no money.
No one is ever going to jail for this. In fact I bet you that nothing of consequence will happen as long this investigation is kept in Spain. A fine or two, a couple of press releases and an in depth investigation from a Barcelona sports tabloid about how this this is all a campaign orchestrated in a bunker 60 metres below the Bernabeu and voila' that's it.
"Real Madrid has engaged in shady/criminal activities" and "FC Barcelona has engaged in shady/criminal activities" are not mutually exclusive statements.
I just want to ask you two questions.
1.What amount of money are you happy for Real Madrid, or other teams in Spain, to pay referees for "advice" without declaring it at the time?
2. Does it, or doesn't it matter, if you attempt to bribe officials and it doesn't work influencing their decisions?
Came in here expecting some scrambling Barca stans to refer to a collection of screenshots of referee decisions that went against Barca or to shift the blame to shady Real Madrid dealings.
Was not disappointed.
Was not disappointed.