They owe money to almost everyone, there is a fair chance that they also owe you money.
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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They owe money to almost everyone, there is a fair chance that they also owe you money.
Barcelona would always be in Real Madrid’s shadow, that’s the reality. They are not even closely comparable to yours. Madrid are a completely different stratosphere to Barca as a club when it comes to la Liga and champions league. Don’t make a right fool of yourself by taking shots at Madrid. You are no where near them as a club and that’s okay. There is a hierarchy and they are above you, always were always will be. Everybody knows it and I’m not even a Real Madrid supporter. Don’t try to billy big bollocks, know your place and deal with it.
4 CL in 16 years (2006-2022).
10 La Liga, 7 Copa del Rey, 8 Spanish Super Cups, 4 CL, 3 UEFA Super Cups and 3 FIFA Club World Cups titles in the past 18 years, 2 trebles, orgasmic football, widely recognized as the best teams in football history (or certainly among a select few), spanking RM left and right regularly (RM never doing that to Barça on the other hand), legendary teams and players that will always be remembered and admired widely by football fans across the world, the GOAT winning more individual trophies than anyone else while representing the club etc. sounds like freaking dominance to me.
my apologies those are deferred salaries but something the players agreed. I thought you meant they refuse to pay them or sent out bounced cheques.
de Jong situation was handled horribly, same dembele last season. There are MANY things this club that I loathe and cringe at. I do think Laporta is better then Barto and I genuinely think when healthy this is a damn good team. But they don’t do themselves any record with how they handle things publicly.
Almost forgot that one. It's absolutely ridiculous how their fans act as if there's nothing wrong with any of this and anyone who talks about reality is a hater. This summer was a serious disgrace where they went about signing half a dozen players and then went about asking current players to take pay cut.
Every single comment on this thread by a Barca fan seems to be a case of them trying really hard to convince themselves that everything's alright. Will be nice to see them in the Europa when they'll again tell all of us that this is a masterstroke and it was always part of the plan to finish 3rd in thr group.
How wonderful to see the thread with so many comments, let's hope that Barcelona does not win some matches but this will be emptied again.
Now let's talk more seriously. In the economic section, Barcelona will stop earning about €15M net for this elimination. If the club is able to reach the final of the Europa League then it will be even practically.
Eduard Romeu already commented in the economic balance that until the 24-25 season the club will not achieve the budgetary balance.
The salary bill the club expects to be about €500M, Barcelona's first team €420M and the academy and the rest of the sections €80M.
Gross debt has fallen from €1,350M to €1,000M and net debt to €608M. This only with the first lever.
At the end of this season the debt will be reduced more.
This debt also includes about €135M from Espai Barca.
Mateu Alemany already commented in the assembly that Barcelona will sign players who finish their contract.
Now let's talk more seriously. In the economic section, Barcelona will stop earning about €15M net for this elimination. If the club is able to reach the final of the Europa League then it will be even practically.
Eduard Romeu already commented in the economic balance that until the 24-25 season the club will not achieve the budgetary balance.
The salary bill the club expects to be about €500M, Barcelona's first team €420M and the academy and the rest of the sections €80M.
Gross debt has fallen from €1,350M to €1,000M and net debt to €608M. This only with the first lever.
At the end of this season the debt will be reduced more.
This debt also includes about €135M from Espai Barca.
Mateu Alemany already commented in the assembly that Barcelona will sign players who finish their contract.
That's my point. No other club has gotten to a stage where they have to ask players to defer wages. And the 3 who've agreed have pretty much grown up in their academy and are just doing it out of respect for the club. Things dont just come out in public because Barca do this openly. If any other club did things like this, that'd be out in public too. Barca's behaviour this summer was embarassing and unprecedented.
I agree, I am very happy with the players they signed, but there was a lot of cringey behaviour over the summer from the club.
On a serious note, I hope Barcelona will be fine.
But what about all the made up stuff Barca fans were telling us about how being competitive means more sponsors etc that necessitated the selling of your club? How do you put those numbers in your little summary when they were so important only 8 weeks ago? Now it’s only 15m (very conservative estimate when you’re budgeted for quarter finals by the way) so wouldn’t that leave to reason that it wasn’t a wise move to mortgage your future away?
I’m guessing those numbers disappear alongside the argument that your Sponsors would fly away, never to return if Messi wasn’t bankrupting your club with his contract.
Barca fans arguments never stand up to scrutiny
It depends on the decisions they make. If they do what they are saying about signing players for free then it will go well otherwise the economy will be complicated. The club has also changed the bonuses on the salary of the players, now they are serious and not a joke in bad taste as before.
This year the club budgeted the highest income in the commercial section of its history. We will see at the end if that figure is reached.
Real Madrid this year would have had losses of more than one hundred million euros, if they had not sold 30% of the profits generated by the new revenue from the Bernabéu for twenty years.
20/21
These figures may be accurate, but you’re quoting employees of the club. What are they going to say - “we are risking the long term security of the club for a shot at short term success that isn’t working, because our club election cycles leaves little incentive for anything else”?
i think the article on The Athletic paints a far more complete, and far less rosy “everything is just fine” picture of the economic situation at barca,
So Barca just had to spend €200m(?) last summer, because it was incredibly important that they'd be able to go deep in the CL. But now they have most likely failed their group stage, despite selling off all that future revenue and that's basically totally fine as well?
No way this figure takes into account television revenues and ticket sales. It's far more than that.
net being the keyword here. Any revenue increase would be offset from salary bonuses and cost of staging games etc from progressing further.
The slowest train wreck in history.
That doesn't make any sense, if Barcelona needs to reach the final of europa league to even things out (compared to lets say a quarter final in the CL), it means more games to stage with less attendance, more travel expenses etc. no one can seriously claim that the salary bonuses alone will offset the revenue increase of playing in the CL.
I still remember that Barca were one of if not the last clubs to accept shirt sponsorship, they looked to have values, ‘more than a club’ whilst pretentious actually had some weight to it.
How do modern day Barca fans align this part of their heritage with the modern version of the club?
How do modern day Barca fans align this part of their heritage with the modern version of the club?
The post was meant to be sarcastic.
21/22
https://onefootball.com/es/noticias/el-real-madrid-tambien-activa-palancas-35957543
The Athletic it's a pamphlet that can't be taken seriously.
That said I do not know what they say in their article but everything has been explained in detail in the economic assembly.
Last year the net loss was €12M.
Players who still have Bartomeu's contracts have bonuses for passing rounds in the Champions League. And very generous bonuses I must add.
"Mateu Alemany eradicates Bartomeu's easy-to-comply bonuses from Barça.
The director of football has eliminated most of the performance variables applied by the previous board and only maintains two"
Mateu Alemany has said "It cannot be that the players have bonuses for things as obvious as qualifying for the Champions League or for overcoming each phase, nor that they have clauses that if they are injured that does not count. If a player gets injured, I'm so sorry, but he can't collect bonuses."
With Mateu's new policy, most of those bonuses have been exterminated. The head of the football area will keep only the performance extras --playing as a starter 60% of the matches; and starting means playing at least 45 minutes -- and the real incentives for winning titles.
Not disputing what you’re saying but would there be an example contract with these clauses that’s available to see?
I guess every fan of every team would like the shirt to not have sponsorship. But I guess every fan wants their team to be as competitive as possible.
I agree, but then Barca are more than a team, right?
This isn’t an attack by the way, I think a lot of the fans on this forum like aspects of your team. But it’s maybe the notion that you have just thrown your heritage away to chase your rivals.
The contracts are private but we can see Messi's leak.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cu...5-millones-en-cuatro-anos_439242_102_amp.html
Qualification for round 16 - €946K
Qualification for round 8 - €1.4M
Semifinal - €1.4M
Final - €1.4M
Champion €3.5M
Griezzman
https://www.fichajes.net/noticias/absurdo-contrato-tenia-griezmann-fc-barcelona-20210905.html
1/8 - €0.5M
1/4 - €1M
1/2 - €1.5M
Final - €2M
Champion - €2M
Barcelona is a team like any other. There will be fans who prefer not to have a sponsor and compete without that money and others who think otherwise.
What they really needed was to improve attendance. Attendance numbers were just at 60,000 fans roughly and this year 80,000 plus. Of course, if they have an abysmal season in La Liga and attendance drops that would be very bad. COVID hit Barca harder than any other club mostly because of tourism. There is no doubting that crashing out into Europa is going to hurt their bottom line though.
Thanks for that, interesting. Was this confirmed for even fringe squad players like Braithwaite? I could see this being given to top dogs.
The big players had those bonuses, the others I don't know.
Right now Alba, Busquets, FDJ, Piqué and Ter Stegen will be with that type of contract. The other players are already with the new contract type.
How do they get found out? They’ve won 4 of the last 5 premier league titles…
The only title they haven’t won is a luck based competition.
Can see Pep back at Klarnalona next season.
Has Pep ever moved anywhere where money and dominance isn't guaranteed?
It’s not luck based at all. Usually the best team wins it, the only time they don’t is when Pep manages them
BUT the non Barca posters are correct: the reasons given for needing to gamble using all these “levers” are not taken into account by these very optimistic forecasts. Everyone was told having to come back with an ELITE team was necessary, not just for the money coming directly from the competition, but for international marketing, sponsor, and sheer image reasons.
Now they are acting like it was just about tournament money.
You could have come second or third in La Liga and made a half run in Europa with out the Lewas, Raphinia’s, and Koundes of the world.
On the front of staying relevant … they aren’t, other than as a cautionary tale. Every single lever was a failure in that regard.
I thought the game yesterday was a hoot.
They haven't won the Champions League after 10 years of really, really trying. Surely luck should even out after 10 years no? Maybe they have mental issues that rear out when they play with the very best in the continent.
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Anyways, a really bad week for Barcelona. All but bounced out of the CL and were thoroughly outplayed by Madrid in El Classico. Will Laporta persist with Xavi?