Aussie Tennis Open

Rightly or wrongly, I've seen nothing from Djokovic to suggest he will beat Federer and Nadal on a regular basis. Murray seems to have overtaken him in that respect. Having said that, he was a genuine contender in this tournament, which I don't think Roddick is.

It's difficult to see beyond a Nadal v Federer final now, although in the back of my mind I have a tiny inkling that Federer will get beaten by Del Potro tomorrow(or is it Thurs?).
 
To be fair, he steered clear of talking about fitness etc. as much as he could. Good on him.
"If I say that I'm sick and it affected me, I know it's going to be like, 'well he's making excuses for losing'."

This was as close as he got to making an excuse, and even that only amounts to a gentle admission that although he may not have been at his best, he was beaten by a better player on the day. I like to see a player take a defeat on the chin like that. It shows he isn't so up his own arse as to blame anyone and everyone for losing, like a couple of players on the tour tend to do(that means you, Maria. And the Penus sisters).
 
6-3, 4-0

Fed's on fire, Del Potro looks beaten already.
 
:rolleyes: Djokovic quitting again, what a surprise.

Great performance by Federer. He's the only player who can totally demoralize a player like that.
 
:rolleyes: Djokovic quitting again, what a surprise.

Great performance by Federer. He's the only player who can totally demoralize a player like that.

Nadal did this. To Djokovic and Federer at the French last year.

EDIT: And all the rest of his opponents at the French.

He destroyed a fair few souls at Wimbledon as well... including Murray, although it wasn't as comprehensive as this one, he shat all over him anyway.
 
Nadal did this. To Djokovic and Federer at the French last year.

EDIT: And all the rest of his opponents at the French.

He destroyed a fair few souls at Wimbledon as well... including Murray, although it wasn't as comprehensive as this one, he shat all over him anyway.

Yep, I was going to add Nadal as well.
 
:rolleyes: Djokovic quitting again, what a surprise.

Great performance by Federer. He's the only player who can totally demoralize a player like that.

He's done this before?

He should be dropped from the tour. I always knew tennis was for gays.
 
It seems like Murray may have Federer rattled, he doesn't usually have to resort to this sort of stuff.

This is obvious in hindsight, but I think Federer felt insulted that Murray was seen to have as good a chance as winning this as a guy who`s won umpteen GS`s. Murray is still unproven at the top level ultimately.
 
Djokovic and Federer.......

Novak Djokovic said there was no way he could have played on against Andy Roddick after quitting their Australian Open quarter-final because of cramp.

Roger Federer said it was "disappointing" that the Serb "gave up" while trailing 6-7 6-4 6-2 2-1 in temperatures hitting 40C on court.

Defending champion Djokovic, 21, has failed to finish seven tour matches, four in Grand Slams.

"I always retire with a reason," he said. "I felt I could not go on."

Djokovic blamed cramp and "soreness in my whole body" as the defence of his Australian Open title ended in miserable fashion.

However, Federer, who later crushed Juan Martin del Potro to book a semi-final against Roddick, said he was not surprised to see Djokovic pull out.

"It's happened before. It's not the guy that's never given up in his career," said the 13-times Grand Slam champion.

"It's disappointing to see when you have two top guys playing each other and you give up.

"He gave up against me in Monaco last year because of a sore throat so those are kind of things you wonder about.

"But I think Andy probably would have run away with the match anyway. Andy completely deserved the win."

Djokovic, who won his first Grand Slam title in Melbourne a year ago, was unhappy with the scheduling of the tournament.

The world number three said he had asked organisers for a night match on Tuesday after finishing his fourth-round match against Marcos Baghdatis at 2.27am local time on Monday.

"I didn't get to sleep until around 5, 5.30am. I didn't really have time to recover. There were really difficult circumstances," he said.

"Conditions were extreme today. It did affect more on me than him, as you could see. But that was the situation. I just have to cope with it.

"It was unfortunate for me. I did request to play night match, but it didn't come up good for me."

I'm almost in favour of saying, you know what, if you're not fit enough, just get out of here

Roger Federer

Traditionally, the Australian Open evening session begins at 7.30pm local time with a women's match followed by a men's singles.

That has led to some late finishes, with Baghdatis and Lleyton Hewitt finishing a match at 4.34am last year.

Djokovic was not the only player to struggle on Tuesday as Melbourne experiences what is expected to be its most severe heatwave in 100 years.

Marion Bartoli later said she had felt the effects of the heat as she lost the final 11 games in her defeat by Vera Zvonareva.

The Australian Open has an extreme heat policy which takes into account the temperature as well as humidity.

In that situation, no new sets are started on outside courts and the roofs on the main show courts are closed.

However, that has not been implemented yet in 2009, despite on-court temperatures topping 40C.

Djokovic was the fourth player to pull out of a singles match in two days, although his was the only retirement caused solely by the heat.

"The main reason is cramping and soreness in the whole body," he said.

"I think the people could see that I was struggling with movement. I couldn't serve the way I served in the first two sets.

"That third set I just started dropping 20, 30 kilometres per hour first serves.

"(It was a) really unfortunate way to end up my Australian Open. I really tried my best, but sometimes you can't fight against your own body."

Roddick said he had not noticed a problem until his opponent called for the trainer at the beginning of the third set.

The American, who has been in superb form in Melbourne despite being written off by many people as a title challenger, said he had no quibble with Djokovic retiring.

"That's sports. That's what makes it fun. There's no script," he said.

But Roddick did call for a change to the medical time-out rule.

The Serb first called for the trainer in the third set when he had just held serve to make it 2-1.

After a 10-minute time-out for Djokovic to receive a massage, Roddick served three double faults as he struggled to hold serve.

"Everything Novak did today was well within his rights and the rules. It's simply about my opinion of a rule," said Roddick.

"If you want to get something on a switchover for cramping, I think that would be OK.

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These retirements have happened far too many times now. They reflect very poor sportsmanship

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"I looked over and I was confused, because I thought it was one injury per timeout, and I saw a calf, a neck, and an arm but I guess cramping is one condition.

"There's obviously... a little bit of grey area there. Hopefully we'll be able to do something about it."

Federer, who serves as the president of the ATP Players Council, agrees with Roddick.

"It's a fine line, isn't it?," said the world number two.

"I really felt when I was coming up the young players abused it, especially against a player like me.

"I'm almost in favour of saying, you know what, if you're not fit enough, just get out of here.

"It's a tough call. I guess we'll speak about it and see what happens."

I'm not sure why Federer felt the need to have a pop at Djokovic on this one. If he has an issue with Djokovic retiring, I would have thought it would be better addressed face to face with him. Regardless, it's none of his business really, player's council or not.

Perhaps it's just one of those things, but Federer has been a little snappy the last couple of months. He seems to want to have his say on almost everything that happens in the game.
 
I'm not sure why Federer felt the need to have a pop at Djokovic on this one. If he has an issue with Djokovic retiring, I would have thought it would be better addressed face to face with him. Regardless, it's none of his business really, player's council or not.

Perhaps it's just one of those things, but Federer has been a little snappy the last couple of months. He seems to want to have his say on almost everything that happens in the game.

he's probably being asked about his thoughts on djokovic v roddick match and the fact that djokovic retired.
 
Federer's spot on.

'Soreness of the whole body'?, that's called getting tired Novak and it's part of sport.

Del Potro could've easily done the same in his match against Federer.
 
I'm not sure why Federer felt the need to have a pop at Djokovic on this one. If he has an issue with Djokovic retiring, I would have thought it would be better addressed face to face with him. Regardless, it's none of his business really, player's council or not.

Perhaps it's just one of those things, but Federer has been a little snappy the last couple of months. He seems to want to have his say on almost everything that happens in the game.

Federer has issues with Djokovic. I don't think he's ever got over that loss last year to Nole at the Aus open. For sure there are parts of Djokovics game that piss me off but hes not a bottler like everyone is saying. I remember watching that guy fight through Baghditis and Hewitt in two 5 setters at Wimbledon and his desire to win the point was incredible. Somethings up with his breathing/physical condition but why the feck should Federer have an opinion on everything.

This is a cnut who whines about cyclops being wrong. Yet is proven on the fecking big screen and yet he still can't accept the point goes against him. Last year Federer was acting like a twat for a while IMO. He used to be my fav player for years but the way he was acting the last 2 years really got to me and changed my views.

I do think that Djokovic could have played the last 4 games but he was already struggling for 2 sets so at least he played on for that long.
 
Federer has issues with Djokovic. I don't think he's ever got over that loss last year to Nole at the Aus open. For sure there are parts of Djokovics game that piss me off but hes not a bottler like everyone is saying. I remember watching that guy fight through Baghditis and Hewitt in two 5 setters at Wimbledon and his desire to win the point was incredible. Somethings up with his breathing/physical condition but why the feck should Federer have an opinion on everything.

This is a cnut who whines about cyclops being wrong. Yet is proven on the fecking big screen and yet he still can't accept the point goes against him. Last year Federer was acting like a twat for a while IMO. He used to be my fav player for years but the way he was acting the last 2 years really got to me and changed my views.

I do think that Djokovic could have played the last 4 games but he was already struggling for 2 sets so at least he played on for that long.

:lol:

Ah, how I've missed the ludicrous pro-Serb bias of vuc. Makes tennis threads on this forum worthwhile.
 
Didn't Sampras throw up against Corretja and later went on to win the match in 5 sets?
 
Brilliant Aussie Open so far.

Cock face Murray got knocked out before the quarters, after believing too much into his own hype. Get in!

Another dickhead djokovic did even better, packing it in against Roddick because of "soreness on his body". Brilliant. The guy's a quitter all day long, yeah just call it quits when things are not going for you. Loser.

Berdych almost make it a perfect aussie open by stretching federer to 5 sets before losing. Well, I guess you can't have it all.

No prize for guessing, I want Nadal to win.
 
Cock face Murray got knocked out before the quarters, after believing too much into his own hype. Get in!

Another dickhead djokovic did even better, packing it in against Roddick because of "soreness on his body". Brilliant. The guy's a quitter all day long, yeah just call it quits when things are not going for you. Loser.

To be fair, I think it`s you being shown up as a "cock face" with this bizarre nonsense.
 
 
Brilliant Aussie Open so far.

Cock face Murray got knocked out before the quarters, after believing too much into his own hype. Get in!

Another dickhead djokovic did even better, packing it in against Roddick because of "soreness on his body". Brilliant. The guy's a quitter all day long, yeah just call it quits when things are not going for you. Loser.

Berdych almost make it a perfect aussie open by stretching federer to 5 sets before losing. Well, I guess you can't have it all.

No prize for guessing, I want Nadal to win.

Heres a stat for you:

Out of 8 5 set matches Djokovic has only lost 1. Sure sounds like a quitter doesn't it.

Clearly the guy has conditioning problems which are annoying but can't be helped. Get off the guys fecking back. At the OZ open he played 4/5 matches in the heat. He was the defending champion, requested the match to be played at night and nothing. They didn't even pull the bloody roof down for him yet in the Serena Williams match where she was losing, they stopped and pulled the roof down... She then went on and won. I've no doubt in my mind Djokovic would have beat Roddick if the roof was down or if it was at night.

If Federer asked for the roof to be pulled down, the umpire would have got out of his chair and did it himself..

/rant
 
Heres a stat for you:

Out of 8 5 set matches Djokovic has only lost 1. Sure sounds like a quitter doesn't it.

Clearly the guy has conditioning problems which are annoying but can't be helped. Get off the guys fecking back. At the OZ open he played 4/5 matches in the heat. He was the defending champion, requested the match to be played at night and nothing. They didn't even pull the bloody roof down for him yet in the Serena Williams match where she was losing, they stopped and pulled the roof down... She then went on and won. I've no doubt in my mind Djokovic would have beat Roddick if the roof was down or if it was at night.

If Federer asked for the roof to be pulled down, the umpire would have got out of his chair and did it himself..

/rant

He is a quitter no point defending him. The conditions were the same for both players. He's done it too many times and all the time unsurprisingly when he's losing. Was he that 'sore' that he couldn't last 4 more games and take the defeat?
 
He is a quitter no point defending him. The conditions were the same for both players. He's done it too many times and all the time unsurprisingly when he's losing. Was he that 'sore' that he couldn't last 4 more games and take the defeat?

I know that he has quit before and believe me I don't like it when he does because he is a fighter. You don't win 8 out of 9 5 setters by quitting, would you not agree?

Im not disputing that the conditions are not the same for both players, he has known conditioning problems. Yeh he probably should have finished those last four games, but did it not occur to you he was finished at the end of the second set (1-1).
 
Sublime Federer eases into final
AUSTRALIAN OPEN
Venue: Melbourne Park Date: 19 January-1 February
Coverage: BBC Red Button, Radio 5 Live sports extra, BBC Sport website (Red Button coverage streamed on website throughout fortnight)
Roger Federer celebrates beating Andy Roddick
Federer is aiming for a record-equalling 14th Grand Slam title

Roger Federer strolled into the final of the Australian Open with a straight sets win over Andy Roddick 6-2 7-5 7-5.

The Swiss world number two hit 11 forehand winners in the opening set as he broke his American opponent twice.

Roddick finally found his range with his serve but Federer matched him and broke in the 11th game of the next two sets before closing out the win.

Federer takes on the winner of Friday's semi-final between Rafael Nadal and Fernando Verdasco in Sunday's final.

Switzerland's former world number one put his stamp on the match in game three, breaking Roddick's serve with a trademark forehand down the line and completed a double break in the American's next service game.

A correct challenge in the following game and a sublime crosscourt forehand saw Federer open a 5-1 lead.

Roddick, still questioning the umpire's call from the previous game, sent down the first ace of the match as he took the seventh game and saved a set point in the next, but a wide return gifted the opener to Federer.

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Fair play to A Rod, he never gives up. He just came up against the master today, time to match Samparas's 14

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The second set went with serve for the first 10 games with Roddick sending down six aces to Federer's eight.

But Roddick dumped a shot into the net in his sixth service game and Federer turned the screw with another forehand down the line to open up three break points.

A faltering Roddick sent a forehand into the net and put up little resistance as Federer then held to love to close out the second set.

The American's frustration began to boil over at the start of set three with several audible obscenities uttered before umpire Eric Molina handed him an official warning in game five.

Roddick, who had already saved two break points, cried out after serving a double fault, but Molina's reprimand appeared to focus his mind as served out the game and then held with ease in his next to open a 4-3 lead.

Federer powered back with a dominant service game of his own before opening up a 0-30 lead on Roddick's serve, but the American dug deep and took advantage of a couple of wayward shots to hold.

However, Roddick was broken again in his next service game. He fought back from 15-40 down and saved a third break point, but played a poor drop shot which Federer put away.

And the world number two completed victory with yet another forehand on his first match point.

I reckon he'll fancy himself on a hard court against Nadal(probably). If he got his 14th Grand Slam it may take off a little of the pressure. He'd then have Wimbledon and the US Open to aim for to overtake Sampras' record.

If he did, I wouldn't be shocked to see him walk away. It's only going to get tougher and tougher for him, and if his legacy was guaranteed, he might be willing to knock it on the head.
 
I reckon he'll fancy himself on a hard court against Nadal(probably). If he got his 14th Grand Slam it may take off a little of the pressure. He'd then have Wimbledon and the US Open to aim for to overtake Sampras' record.

If he did, I wouldn't be shocked to see him walk away. It's only going to get tougher and tougher for him, and if his legacy was guaranteed, he might be willing to knock it on the head.

He's talked about going on till he's 35. Because of his relaxed style, he doesn't have many bodily wear and tear issues. If he can accept playing on when he's no longer the best, and still enjoy competing, then why not? Connors continued into his mid and late 30's when others had clearly surpassed him.
 
He's talked about going on till he's 35. Because of his relaxed style, he doesn't have many bodily wear and tear issues. If he can accept playing on when he's no longer the best, and still enjoy competing, then why not? Connors continued into his mid and late 30's when others had clearly surpassed him.

I agree, but I'm not suggesting he should, simply that he might. I get the impression that he isn't enjoying the threat to his supremacy, and it's only going to get tougher and tougher, as I said.

I would hope he'll play on, but with athletes like him, you just don't know when they feel they have done enough.
 
Although Rafa's not at his best at the moment, I'd be surprised to see him going out. I reckon he'll win this in five.

But if he doesn't, I'm not convinced that Federer won't be absolutely thrilled to face Verdasco in the final. With the form he's in, he'll be odds on favourite.