He also wanted a RW and then spent 73mil on a bloke that cannot outrun a tortoise!
Aurelien Tchouameni / Signs for Madrid
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They should have more to spend than United going forward. We were only a nose ahead of them in terms of revenues, but they will finally overtake us in the forthcoming financial year.
Brutal reality check for a lot of people. Manchester United doesn't have any pull any longer. The only thing we can offer is a lot of money and leasurly time. Good players who have competitive aspirations will not come here if there are other options. The legacy of Glazers and Woodward.
Yeah he isn't coming here with no Champions league football.
Madrid bound no need of mupeetring over here.
Stunningly you are wrong. Money goes a long way and the media/marketing size of the club cannot be ignored. We won't get Haaland etc...but we can get most players ETH wants if the Glazers will pay for them.
Really feel like this guy would solve a lot of our problems and at his age we could potentially build a great spine around him or sell him on for a profit in the future. Makes me irrationally angry that we seem to let other clubs have a free run at these kids with world class potential written all over them.
The better run clubs have deals struck before the windows even open now and yet again we'll be playing chicken with clubs in the last week of the transfer window like we always do before overpaying for an unstuitable player shopped around by his agent.
The better run clubs have deals struck before the windows even open now and yet again we'll be playing chicken with clubs in the last week of the transfer window like we always do before overpaying for an unstuitable player shopped around by his agent.
What about Amad Diallo? Facundo?
Whoscored has Fabinho and Henderson as their worst players this season in their top 12 in minutes and they're 28 and 31, so sadly I think Liverpool spending big on him actually seems plausible. They've brought in Jota and Diaz up top and Konate in the back and Gomez seems to be back and doing well as the backup RB, so investing in a young DM and making Henderson a permanent RCM makes a lot of sense to me.
Then they can sell Fabinho in a couple years or make him a Fernandinho style squad player for a couple.
Then they can sell Fabinho in a couple years or make him a Fernandinho style squad player for a couple.
So he's overrated now the scousers are going to nab him. Got it.
Not exactly great scouting.
Ties into this:
If we're enthralled by these games, just imagine how much of an impact they are having on players who could literally be in them next season playing with the same players who are compelling them to make personal tweets like the above.
We would have to offer the biggest financial package on the table by some distance to potentially entice and be part of the conversation. In this instance, I really hope we do.
You are judging players we got at 18 or 19?
FYI Amad was considered to be one of the top 20 talents in the world coming out of the academy.
Hmmmm. Well he’s fell off the wagon now.
I strongly disagree with this mindset. When money is the only thing you can offer to entice players you end up with players that are most interested in that. The competitive and hungry players that want to win go elsewhere. So you end up with 3rd rate footballers that simply don't have other better options and high-paid mercenaries that aren't particularly interested in reaching the top and don't have the mentality for it.
Manchester United and PSG are prime examples of this.
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I agree with you for the most part, but there are also players that are ambitious and hungry and want the chance to shine right away. If you have a quality manager (which we haven't had in a while) that can sell them a solid project you can get them to choose us. If I was Ten Hag I'd be telling Tchouameni that with us he'd start right away and be one of our star players. With Madrid he'd still be far below in the pecking order. The old guard won't give up their seats too lightly
Doesn't feel like someone who will play well alongside Fabinho though? Don't think Liverpool should be looking to sideline Fabinho anytime over the next 2-3 years.
Frankly what a pleasure to watch a match of this level
Someone quickly send him a link to one of our games
Fabinho is pretty versatile in there, I think it could work
this guy would be replacing Henderson not Fabinho, you’d think?
Whoscored? Really?
Fabinho is fantastic and going nowhere. What's more him and Tchouameni really aren't particularly similar in playing style.
If you’re saying revenue, on the face of it from the last accounts perhaps. Then you did down, Liverpools accounts for last year had delayed income from the previous year, they’re handing out new contracts like confetti and income from sales is decreasing. There are some large holes to fill in.
What if he believes he could help bring us up to that level? I’m clutching at straws here.
He appears to be a player who should either be playing as the holding misfielder or next another box to box midfielder. I could be wrong but him and Fabinho comes across as a lot of ball winning for two positions.
I don't know why Tchouameni would go to City, Liverpool, or Real when those teams are already abundant with options in midfield. There is very little chance that he will play every single week. United is a better option in the sense that he will be a key figure in the next rebuild of the squad. He'd rot away on the bench at other teams. But this can also change if they choose to sell players and there is a gap that needs filling.
Indeed, there is that, but it would take a hell of a lot of convincing to make sought after players like that believe in a yet-to-happen project. We and Barcelona are by far the worst clubs in Europe right now. But Barcelona, unlike us, still have that allure, because they were good not that long ago. And it's likely they will eventually get it right again. But we haven't been good for a decade. In fact we have been an utter disaster for a good part of it. And then there is this latest season...
So he can take this massive risk that is unlikely to pay off and come to Old Trafford, or go to Madrid, or Liverpool, or whatever and have a serious shot for the top. And besides, the old guard currently present at Madrid aren't long for it. If he believes in himself and can carve a piece for himself out of that pie, well he is pretty much guaranteed to win there.
Mbappe situation is somewhat similar and it would be very interesting to see what path he will take. But in his case PSG are offering him pretty much everything to stay, these are the lengths they have to go to to keep him there. And that's for just a short while more.
I've watched Monaco a couple of times this season and quite liked the look of Fofana next to him in midfield. Does anyone know any more about him and could he be a decent option for us if Tchouameni goes elsewhere.
We will not be signing Tchouameni. ETH will not have the money for all the replacements he need if he goes for him or Rice or others with a price tag of above 60 mill.
The only player I could see us spend a lot on is an attacker But doubt we will pay above 100 mill for Kane or Nunez.
They need to find 2-3 players atleast the we have not heard much of and the maybe 2 players in the 40 to 70 mill range (if we can sell some of the dead beats for a little money).
The only player I could see us spend a lot on is an attacker But doubt we will pay above 100 mill for Kane or Nunez.
They need to find 2-3 players atleast the we have not heard much of and the maybe 2 players in the 40 to 70 mill range (if we can sell some of the dead beats for a little money).
Even Camavinga is getting playing time at Real. No team is signing a 22-year old for €70m to let them "rot away on the bench" (especially not Liverpool with our limited funds).
I find it passable.
Fabinho was the weak link against Liverpool and needs a backup/challanger and not sure a 32 year old Henderson is up for the 3rd CB type role Klopp has the DM play. They don't really have any major holes elsewhere apart from not having a De Bruyne type, but Klopp doesn't seem to demand one and I guess is fine with hoping Curtis Jones/Elliott become a quality attacker from midfield and having the fullbacks and front 3 handle the attacking, so why not make Tchouameni the big signing?
He is inconsistent and not really ready for more, he may never be.
Cheers, like i said i've only seen him a couple of times and don't really know him so hard to judge.
FTFYHaha what an idiot.
We’re playingEuropaConference League next season, not CL, FabRom! You dumbass.
I thought he would kick on after moving from Strasbourg. Fun trivia, met him in Bali back in the summer of 2019, he was shocked we knew who he was. We told him too much FM and FUT.
It makes sense for Liverpool to buy him. He’ll be amazing for them.
Or you end up with Chelsea and City who threw money at the right players but also sold them a project and had a structure. Being part of a project is enticing. The club also has to fulfil their side of the bargain. Silva, Toure, aguero etc wouldn't have stuck around if City had done stuff half arsed like united ie. Not backing the manager etc.
Isn't that what I said? I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me? If all you can offer is money, well no, you don't end up with Chelsea and City. Those clubs offer more than money. They plan for prestige and have a vision in mind. And demand you deliver. That's the difference between City and PSG. That's the difference between Chelsea and Manchester United. Manchester United don't plan and don't have demands.
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