Happy it is making sense!Auction Fantasy Draft
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Happy it is making sense!Ok, one clarification-
would there be a pool for a round?
Like you said earlier, everyone has to nominate two players out of living 125 list
would there be a pool for a round?
Like you said earlier, everyone has to nominate two players out of living 125 list
No, no. There won't be a nomination of 2 and I never mentioned it. Everybody will be able to pick the player they desire in the position. You simply make update the bidding post with your player, if you are unsure where he is supposed to be you talk to the admins before.
As long as everybody understand that just because you "cheat" the system slightly and get Messi as a winger, wont make him cheaper at. Then people won't do it and will just wait for their turn.
One thing we need to consider is bidding time limits. I know you've mentioned we will all move on once we are happy but this will not work.
14 days of a draft period is alright? or do people want it shorter? That'd make it 2 days per round. That'd mean if you had little time you need to make higher bid raises if you don't know if you'll have the time to fight during the deadline.
Well just needs some thinking. I've thought of problems with both a limit and no limit.
If you create a limit, you'll see a flurry of bids before the deadline which will feck people over.
If you don't, you could have a situation where you have a couple people left, one outbids the other, then the other doesn't want to bid higher so they bid a bit more on someone else's player. Then they are back involved and that will start another bid war, until they aren't happy with that player and then they his on another players player. Then they are involved and you create a cycle.
Sorry not explained very clearly! Hope you see what I mean though buddy.
See my post above mate - There is an issue with both IMO. Any ideas anyone?
What about limiting the number of bids on a player, and having a time limit, too?
No the 12 hour deadline is for a single bid
It means
I bid 50m on Messi at 12 PM GMT , if no one bids for another 12 hour on him I get him
Suppose, Aldo bids 55 m on him at 5 PM GMT, then if no one bids on Messi till 5 am GMT , he gets him.. and so on
This was for certain players, it can take longer if people from different time zones get in a bid war but for a lot of players it would close early as well
I like that idea - limiting bids on the PLAYER rather than MANAGER could work because the person who bids 3rd/4th on a player will need to think hard b
Ahh Crappy, I thought you meant that it was after the last pick only. 12 hours after that we'd change rounds. Don't agree with the 12 hour rule as suggested above.
Oh ok, apologies. I get you now. Think that works well as well.
Maximum number of bids on a player and a time limit on the player after the first bid made on him is a good idea IMO.
What you mean is not going to work. It would be unfair on people who will be asleep while someone outbids them and 12 hours are over.
Those ideas would favour random luck from misunderstandings or people bidding at night. Managers could also help each other easily by bidding fast on the same player and then it'd be theirs for a cheap sum as they blocked the bid amounts.
Easiest solution is to increase the minimum bid raise.
I mean suppose I make a bid at 4 PM my time, someone makes a last bid at 7 PM my time.. I go to sleep by 12 pm when no one has out bid me.. woke up at 8 am to find out someone outbid me at 6 am .. and round closed at 7 am
how is that going to work?
how is that going to work?
That would mean that a particular manager has to keep checking in all the time to see which player's time is running out. I don't know if all of the managers can come online every 12 hours to check which of his budded players have been outbid.
You misunderstand it. The idea is that a full round closes 12 hours after the last pick is made and everybody has a pick.
So if you get outbid you have one missing pick and the round won't close in 12 hours.
No if I want to buy two strikers.. and have bid on two.. i could still lose out on a player and round would close since I have gotten one player
No, no - what I meant was, manager X gets only a maximum of 4 bids for player Y. The manager's fourth bid on a player is his last bid, so he can't do anything about it if he's outbid after that.
No, no. If you have previously bidded on 2 players we will assume that is your goal of the round. This is mainly targeting the time after everybody are satisfied. Some managers may still want to get an AM they didn't really want, just because they know some is left cheap.
That makes sense. People will need to be very smart about their bidding then even if I would increase it to 6 bids at least.
What if a manager nominates the minimum number of players they want in the round at the start of it?
Nah that's not right.. why should someone who makes a first bid on a player be penalized
It will result in people waiting each other out to start or outbid someone. It will completely drag the process down rather than hurrying it up
So what about this:
- A manager states his intended number of players at the start of the round (which cannot be changed going forward).
- the manager has x number I bids per player they want (eg if they nominate 1, they get 5 bids. If they nominate 2, they get 10)
- A manager states his intended number of players at the start of the round (which cannot be changed going forward).
- the manager has x number I bids per player they want (eg if they nominate 1, they get 5 bids. If they nominate 2, they get 10)
How about at the last 12 hours we have a maximum amount of bids per manager per player that is very low(3?). The day before Messi will already have reached 120 mill hopefully, and the day two will mean anybody bidding high has a huge chance of getting him.
I don't understand what is the point in limiting the number of bids?
The whole fun is watching two people outbid each other as much as they want. If someone wants to blow half of his money on Messi or Ronaldo, let them be.
Given this is a real time open auction system, someone who can't be active too much should either get an AM or withdraw all together IMO.
The whole fun is watching two people outbid each other as much as they want. If someone wants to blow half of his money on Messi or Ronaldo, let them be.
Given this is a real time open auction system, someone who can't be active too much should either get an AM or withdraw all together IMO.
I don't think it is necessary as we will wait 12 hours at the end of the draft. If a manager doesn't state that they want another player then it will be their mistake.
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How about asking everyone to make their first bids on all desired players, and then keeping them anonymous except for the highest bid on each player?
Example:
Round One: First Bid results
X - highest bid 20m by manager A
Y - highest bid 30m by manager A
Z - highest bid 60m by manager D
Round One: Second Bid results
X- hb 45m by C
Y- hb 40m by A
Z - no second bids, sold to D for 60m
Edit: in the last bidding round, everyone within 2 bid units of the highest bid gets invited to a 6 hour bidding war, time and date to be chosen by @Annahnomoss
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I agree actually. How about we just let it be then? Have a deadline decided ahead(48 hours) and if you know you won't be online you will have to make huge bid raises early on.
If you know you will be there for the deadline you can use that.
Either go with 12 hour thing you proposed or 12 hour thing I did.
Both are fine I think. Fixed Deadline won't work at all
How come? It would just mean that if you won't be online at the deadline you have to make higher bids early on.
If I want Messi and I know I won't be online tomorrow I would just raise the bid to the max level I'd be able to pay. If someone out bids you, you change target or further increase the bid.
That's just being unfair to those who can spend a consistent net 3 hours online daily, but can never be present for a continuous 8 anytime.
Does not work. If bid on Messi at that time is 50m, would you risk it to take it to 100 already? It turns it into a guessing game
I don't have a problem with your 12 hour rule, that gives the manager more of chance for sure
The problem with that is that there's no guarantee you'll end up with 12 players, and if you don't get your desired targets early on, you'll end up bidding 50m for Ando just to make the numbers. That's simple chaos for the type of poster I gave an example of in my earlier post.Why are you handicapping that poster, and potentially killing him early?
So when everybody are satisfied we will continue the draft forward?
Your system was when every single player has made a bid on someone.. we have a 12 hour window to outbid each other before it closes..
if two people continue to outbid each other around the deadline... then ask them both for a blind bid for the player in question
What if there's a flurry of bids before the deadline - say 13 bids in 2 minutes? Which ones will be allowed a blind bid?