He's having none of mine! My preciousss.
Athletics 2017
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Was at 20/1 minutes before race on Sky. Put a quid each on him and Blake.
Delighted for the crowd.
Thankfully Bolt won the race that actually mattered in the grand scheme of things, the Olympics last year.
Sign him up Woody!
Yeah, was close but you could see Coleman nicked it on the dip.
Send him to Everton more likeSign him up Woody!
Bolt can't start anymore that's why he lost.
Bolt has never had a great start though, but yeah this one was awful.
Yeah it was quite bad, I really think he didn't want to run this year, just hope he gets the 4x100m gold now.
Nah. Pace on the flanks and I doubr he'd be much worse in crossing than our wide players
Bitter sweet (and sad for Bolt) but reasonably happy for Gatlin, as obviously his hard work paid off finally and becomes the only one to beat him in a World or Olympics Final.
Ooo, you're such an edgy contrarian!
He got a silver in the 200m at the World Championships in Osaka in 2007, Tyson Gay won that race.
Looking at them 2007 results just makes me think about what a legendary underachiever Asafa was. Obscene record for most under 10 runs though to be fair....but that big stage, poor lad, couldn't get over the hump.
I stopped feeling sorry for him after he was exposed as a cheat being totally honest.
As with the current poll.....they all on something.
Aye, I'd say he was more talented than a few others who've won the 100m in the Olympics or WCs over the years. For a few years he could churn out 9.7 or 9.8 runs with unerring regularity. He probably lost the gold in 2004 over nerves, but after that it was more so down to a lack of repeated speed endurance and an inability to tolerate four races in just over 24 hours.
Why's everyone back to running 9.9x?
Gatlin and Bolt because they're declining.. are there no new sprinters?
I suppose Andre De Grasse wouldve won easily if he'd run?
Why's Blake not running the sub 9.8 he was previously doing fairly easily?
Or has drug testing just become better?
Gatlin and Bolt because they're declining.. are there no new sprinters?
I suppose Andre De Grasse wouldve won easily if he'd run?
Why's Blake not running the sub 9.8 he was previously doing fairly easily?
Or has drug testing just become better?
Probably the latter. But it's a generational thing as well - Bolt, Powell, Gay and Gatlin were all responsible for the majority of the fast times over the last 10-15 years - and they're all at the end of the road. Perhaps a talent gap to the next generation, but you could see someone like Coleman picking up the baton and hitting 9.7 soon enough.
Gatlin, despite everything, has more longevity than Bolt. It's odd, but defo the right time for Bolt to retire as a goat.
Wonder how good Gaitlin could have been without the drugs and bans.
Assuming he was clean for this race and not just undeceted.
Assuming he was clean for this race and not just undeceted.
A lot of this could be the turnaround of the rounds of the 100m, weather, wind etc
No one ran "that fast"
Did they
Gatlin is 100% doping though
God, someone already posted that. And in this case obviously not true, even on Cafe.
Schedule for weekdays.
Day 4 - Monday 7th August
18:30 200 Metres (M) Heats
18:35 Triple Jump (M) Qualification
19:00 Hammer Throw (W) Final (12/48)
19:30 400 Metres Hurdles (W) Heats
20:20 400 Metres Hurdles (M) Semi-Final
20:25 Triple Jump (W) Final (13/48)
20:55 400 Metres (W) Semi-Final
21:30 110 Metres Hurdles (M) Final (14/48)
21:50 1500 Metres (W) Final (15/48)
Day 5 - Tuesday 8th August
19:20 Javelin Throw (W) Final (16/48)
19:30 200 Metres (W) Heats
---------SUPER CUP-----------
19:35 Pole Vault (M) Final (17/48)
20:35 400 Metres Hurdles (W) Semi-Final
20:40 Shot Put (W) QUalification
21:10 3000 Metres Steeplechase (M) Final (18/48)
---------SUPER CUP-----------
21:35 800 Metres (M) Final (19/48)
21:50 400 Metres (M) Final (20/48)
Day 6 - Wednesday 9th August
19:05 3000 Metres Steeplechase (W) Heats
19:10 Long Jump (W) Qualification
19:20 Hammer Throw (M) Qualification Group A
20:05 5000 Metres (M) Heats
20:25 Shot Put (W) FInal (21/48)
20:50 Hammer Throw (M) Qualification Group B
20:55 200 Metres (M) Semi-Final
21:33 400 Metres Hurdles (M) Final (22/48)
21:50 400 Metres (W) Final (23/48)
Day 7 - Thursday 10th August
18:30 5000 Metres (W) Heats
19:05 Javelin Throw (M) Qualification Group A
19:10 High Jump (W) Qualification
19:25 800 Metres (W) Heats
20:20 Triple Jump (M) Final (24/48)
20:25 1500 Metres (M) Heats
20:35 Javelin Throw (M) Qualification Group B
21:05 200 Metres (Semi-Final)
21:35 400 Metres Hurdles (W) Final (25/48)
21:52 200 Metres (M) Final (26/48)
Day 4 - Monday 7th August
18:30 200 Metres (M) Heats
18:35 Triple Jump (M) Qualification
19:00 Hammer Throw (W) Final (12/48)
19:30 400 Metres Hurdles (W) Heats
20:20 400 Metres Hurdles (M) Semi-Final
20:25 Triple Jump (W) Final (13/48)
20:55 400 Metres (W) Semi-Final
21:30 110 Metres Hurdles (M) Final (14/48)
21:50 1500 Metres (W) Final (15/48)
Day 5 - Tuesday 8th August
19:20 Javelin Throw (W) Final (16/48)
19:30 200 Metres (W) Heats
---------SUPER CUP-----------
19:35 Pole Vault (M) Final (17/48)
20:35 400 Metres Hurdles (W) Semi-Final
20:40 Shot Put (W) QUalification
21:10 3000 Metres Steeplechase (M) Final (18/48)
---------SUPER CUP-----------
21:35 800 Metres (M) Final (19/48)
21:50 400 Metres (M) Final (20/48)
Day 6 - Wednesday 9th August
19:05 3000 Metres Steeplechase (W) Heats
19:10 Long Jump (W) Qualification
19:20 Hammer Throw (M) Qualification Group A
20:05 5000 Metres (M) Heats
20:25 Shot Put (W) FInal (21/48)
20:50 Hammer Throw (M) Qualification Group B
20:55 200 Metres (M) Semi-Final
21:33 400 Metres Hurdles (M) Final (22/48)
21:50 400 Metres (W) Final (23/48)
Day 7 - Thursday 10th August
18:30 5000 Metres (W) Heats
19:05 Javelin Throw (M) Qualification Group A
19:10 High Jump (W) Qualification
19:25 800 Metres (W) Heats
20:20 Triple Jump (M) Final (24/48)
20:25 1500 Metres (M) Heats
20:35 Javelin Throw (M) Qualification Group B
21:05 200 Metres (Semi-Final)
21:35 400 Metres Hurdles (W) Final (25/48)
21:52 200 Metres (M) Final (26/48)
Latest medal count...
I think so Bolt just never looked sharp from the first round. He's not 'old' so either training casually when he feels like it and partying or an injury.
Partly the weather I'd imagine
Ayana's win was an absolute joke last night. First race of the season and she laps every other runner bar 4 to win the 10k by double the biggest previous winning margin. 45 seconds clear of the 4 or 5 time former world champion, Dibaba.
KJT fifth after the javelin, don't see how she can get a medal now. Thiam should win it.
I don't know if this has been posted before, but for all those accusing Gatlin of being a cheat and worse, a double-cheat, you may like to throw an eye at the following. Quite a nice read in the midst of all the hysteria against him.
http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/
I for one admire Gatlin's determination and his longevity, especially considering all the adversity and criticism he has faced for years since his return. And if he really was a cheat, we should blame the rules for allowing him back, not boo him for doing his time and doing his best to get back to the top after his return.
http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/
I for one admire Gatlin's determination and his longevity, especially considering all the adversity and criticism he has faced for years since his return. And if he really was a cheat, we should blame the rules for allowing him back, not boo him for doing his time and doing his best to get back to the top after his return.
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Hopefully Gatlin's lawyers are not browsing Cafe these days.
Kiyota's running style in the women's marathon is very strange. Apparently it's called 'ninja running'.
Actually I'd say the opposite. I think the effect is greater than most realize. You often see people suggesting Bolt was clean due to small improvements in time from when he was young, which suggests most people don't realize just how big a difference those small time improvements really impact things.
Here is a photo of when Ben Johnson annihilated the competition in 1988
In that race he only won by 0.13 seconds, yet look at the gap. He blew the opposition away (not because of drugs as they all were and still are on them.)
So if an athlete is able to shave 0.3 seconds of their time due to drugs, then in real terms he is absolutely thrashing his "natural" self. You'd be more than doubling the distance between Johnson and Lewis. So these seemingly tiny differences are actually pretty huge.
Actually I'd say the opposite. I think the effect is greater than most realize. You often see people suggesting Bolt was clean due to small improvements in time from when he was young, which suggests most people don't realize just how big a difference those small time improvements really impact things.
Here is a photo of when Ben Johnson annihilated the competition in 1988
In that race he only won by 0.13 seconds, yet look at the gap. He blew the opposition away.
So if an athlete is able to shave 0.3 seconds of their time due to drugs, then in real terms he is absolutely thrashing his "natural" self. You'd be more than doubling the distance between Johnson and Lewis. So these seemingly tiny differences are actually pretty huge.
I meant compared to himself not others. Even if you are using drugs, you need to have solid abilities to win.
My point is a drug using athlete would thrash himself without drugs. Just by saving 0.3 or 0.2 seconds of their time, it means they put a big gap between they achieve on drugs and not on drugs.
And what I mean is that you need to only be 0.2 or 0.3 seconds slower in the first place, which actually requires a lot of abilities. I'm not saying anything else.
He is some physical specimen in fairness. He reminds me somewhat of a Michael Johnson in how much he differs physically from his competitors. Both are once in a generation type athletes. Bolt is a once in a lifetime person full stop.