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2014-15 Performances


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6.3 Season Average Rating
Appearances
29
Clean sheets
9
Goals
2
Assists
6
Yellow cards
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i think the point that i and and a few others have, is that young is lucky beyond belief that he even started with united this season. he's been horrible up until this season, yet he and valencia are given opportunity after opportunity after fecking opportunity to make something happen. even a clock is right twice a day, is somewhat apt.

nevertheless, he's been decent this year. nothing more, nothing less. it's just that the ceiling is so low with him, compared to what di maria can potentially bring based on precedent and based on what januzaj has in terms of potential. i don't think we'd be much worse off had di maria or januzaj been afforded those sames minutes that young has received.

Di Maria's not shown enough when given the chance. You said it yourself, what Di Maria can potentially bring. Can we really know what Di Maria and Januzaj would've brought to the table given the same amount of time? Maybe they would've brought more to the table. But when Kagawa was around people were quick to slag him off for not showing when given the chance, and for me the same principle should be applied to Di Maria who cost a hell lot more and is more highly touted.
 
If he "doesn't always get the final ball right" (which is putting it lightly) then what use is it looking threatening consistently? He consistently gets into good positions and uses the ball poorly, and somehow that's worthy of praise...I find it absolutely incredible. He averages 5 unsuccessful crosses per game (out of 6.7 crosses overall) which puts him in 11th place for the most mishit crosses in the league. Worse than someone like Yannick Bolasie who people regularly criticise for having a poor final ball and use it as a reason for him still being at a midtable club. The only players who cross it more often are Trippier, Downing, Navas, Albrighton, di María, Moses and Tadic, and in terms of end product he's at the same level as Trippier, Albrighton and Moses and a level below Downing, Navas and Tadic.

We used to criticise Nani for far, far, far less. Our standards for good wingplay have dropped to such a low level it's sad.

It's amazing how the Caf has went to such extremes with Young this season, guess it speaks to how the last 2 year have been.
 
I think Young will play plenty of games next season as cover for Shaw and Memphis. We have plenty of games with CL if we qualify, FA cup and league cup. :)
 
Huge credit for resurrecting his Utd career. I still think he lacks that little bit of quality to really help us push for the title and CL next season, but (if he's willing to take a pay cut), I'd say give him a contract where we can keep him as a left sided utility player.
I have stopped bothering about his contract and his salary. What I would like to see is an upgrade on him while he becomes a utility squad player. A team like United should not be relying on Young as their wide player considering what we have had in the past.
 
I have stopped bothering about his contract and his salary. What I would like to see is an upgrade on him while he becomes a utility squad player. A team like United should not be relying on Young as their wide player considering what we have had in the past.
True, but he's a more than capable stand in. He also loves playing for the club, which is endearing to see.
 
I have stopped bothering about his contract and his salary. What I would like to see is an upgrade on him while he becomes a utility squad player. A team like United should not be relying on Young as their wide player considering what we have had in the past.
Memphis.
 
True, but he's a more than capable stand in. He also loves playing for the club, which is endearing to see.
He should. He would not get anywhere near another top team of similar caliber.
 
I know but I have not seen a lot of him and don't know much of what to expect.
The manager trusts him enough to spend 22m on him, ignore his own policy of not speaking to players while the season is going on and personally intervening to stop the player from joining PSG.
 
The idea that he's been our best outfield player this season is just absurd, for me. He has 5 goals and 2 assists. I know numbers don't tell the full story, but that's poor, and often and not, goals and assists are one of the best ways to judge a winger. In their respective best seasons for the club, Nani and Valencia had stats way, way beyond that. I'd say if anything the stats show how torrid Young's end product actually is for us, because we're all clearly impressed by his 'transformation' in terms of how confident he looks, how he's beating his man, how he's on the ball so much and much more noticeable in games, yet his overall stats are actually worse than they were for us last year.

It's just not remotely good enough for a Man Utd winger, or for any first choice winger at any big club, actually. I see little wrong with keeping him on as a squad player, but that's pretty much all he deserves. I don't think Young has ever done remotely enough to not be labelled one of the shittest signings that Fergie made in his tenure here, and that includes this season.
 
The idea that he's been our best outfield player this season is just absurd, for me. He has 5 goals and 2 assists. I know numbers don't tell the full story, but that's poor, and often and not, goals and assists are one of the best ways to judge a winger. In their respective best seasons for the club, Nani and Valencia had stats way, way beyond that. I'd say if anything the stats show how torrid Young's end product actually is for us, because we're all clearly impressed by his 'transformation' in terms of how confident he looks, how he's beating his man, how he's on the ball so much and much more noticeable in games, yet his overall stats are actually worse than they were for us last year.

It's just not remotely good enough for a Man Utd winger, or for any first choice winger at any big club, actually. I see little wrong with keeping him on as a squad player, but that's pretty much all he deserves. I don't think Young has ever done remotely enough to not be labelled one of the shittest signings that Fergie made in his tenure here, and that includes this season.

Bingo.
 
The idea that he's been our best outfield player this season is just absurd, for me. He has 5 goals and 2 assists. I know numbers don't tell the full story, but that's poor, and often and not, goals and assists are one of the best ways to judge a winger. In their respective best seasons for the club, Nani and Valencia had stats way, way beyond that. I'd say if anything the stats show how torrid Young's end product actually is for us, because we're all clearly impressed by his 'transformation' in terms of how confident he looks, how he's beating his man, how he's on the ball so much and much more noticeable in games, yet his overall stats are actually worse than they were for us last year.

It's just not remotely good enough for a Man Utd winger, or for any first choice winger at any big club, actually. I see little wrong with keeping him on as a squad player, but that's pretty much all he deserves. I don't think Young has ever done remotely enough to not be labelled one of the shittest signings that Fergie made in his tenure here, and that includes this season.
Just highlights what a sorry state our squad is in and how much we need to invest when we're applauding Ashley Young for successfully crossing the ball with some of the fans thinking it's something special.
 
Problem with Young is when he's shut out, he has no other options. IMO that doesn't make him a regular but rather a squad player.

You didn't answer the question though. Which one of our regulars has brought something else to the table when we needed it against a defensively resolute team? Rooney? Fellaini? Mata? Di Maria? We've collectively failed us a team to beat teams that shut us down effectively. Im talking about Southampton at home, Chelsea, Everton and West Brom. No one stepped up, no one. Mata was virtually invisible in those games and Di Maria looked like Nani on a bad day so why are you singling out Young?

Just highlights what a sorry state our squad is in and how much we need to invest when we're applauding Ashley Young for successfully crossing the ball with some of the fans thinking it's something special.

I don't think Young has ever done remotely enough to not be labelled one of the shittest signings that Fergie made in his tenure here, and that includes this season.


So much for appreciation. If not for him we'd have drawn or lost the match against CP. He's had more MOTM performances than our highest paid players
 
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Imagine we live in a world in which Ashley Young is genuinely a better player than Angel di Maria? Imagine?
 
Just highlights what a sorry state our squad is in and how much we need to invest when we're applauding Ashley Young for successfully crossing the ball with some of the fans thinking it's something special.

Ashley Young is the best crosser in the country. City have Nasri and Navas who wouldnt cross a road between them. I could mention nearly every top team and say likewise.
 
It definitely isn't any kind of loss for England, with several younger and more promising players who can play a similar role to him.

Simply not true. We are seeing (eventually) the same player Aston Villa had. Prior to his move to United only Cesc Fabregas averaged a better assist record over a 5 year period in the PL. So you are saying there are several young players for England who could match that feat over the next 5 years....big bullshit call.
 
Simply not true. We are seeing (eventually) the same player Aston Villa had. Prior to his move to United only Cesc Fabregas averaged a better assist record over a 5 year period in the PL. So you are saying there are several young players for England who could match that feat over the next 5 years....big bullshit call.

What?

Why are you talking about Ashley Young in 2009? I'm not sure what that post even means. What happened 5 years ago at Aston Villa doesn't really matter and it should take more than a few weeks of unspectacular form for an England recall, unless we're hell bent on going backwards.
 
What?

Why are you talking about Ashley Young in 2009? I'm not sure what that post even means. What happened 5 years ago at Aston Villa doesn't really matter and it should take more than a few weeks of unspectacular form for an England recall, unless we're hell bent on going backwards.

He's been the best English left winger in the PL this season! When Hazard doesnt play left side Ashley is the best PL left winger as well!
So what you are saying about him and England is complete cr*p. John Terry is England best defender by a country mile at 34.
 
Jesus we have people wanting to give Nani another chance after 3 years of dross and getting booed off but for Ashley helping us get top 4 this season is still not worthy of praise. Laughable. Looks like LVG has judged the players rightly mind.
 
He's not been pulling up any trees but he's still been one of our best players. That probably says more about our team at the moment than Young himself, but still credit where credit's due. It's all relative. There's not been much to celebrate this season apart from securing top four, but one positive is the emergence of Fellaini and Young as solid options, at least at squad player status, for us.
 
You didn't answer the question though. Which one of our regulars has brought something else to the table when we needed it against a defensively resolute team? Rooney? Fellaini? Mata? Di Maria? We've collectively failed us a team to beat teams that shut us down effectively. Im talking about Southampton at home, Chelsea, Everton and West Brom. No one stepped up, no one. Mata was virtually invisible in those games and Di Maria looked like Nani on a bad day so why are you singling out Young?

Because this thread is supposed to be about Young!
 
Don't know why people are getting so hung up abut stats. Young's contribution to our play has been several notches above Di Maria's. We actually offer penetration off the left with him taking on, and beating defenders and linking up well with Afro and Blind. Not to mention his defensive work. Nobody's saying he's the one who we should be settling for, but he's been crucial to us this season.
 
Before Man City he had 1 goal and 1 assist all season. Take into account that 4 of his assists and the other goal came in 2 games then the productivity reads that he's produced something in terms of a goal or assist in only 4 games he's played this season (23 starts), if you look at it like that.
 
Jesus we have people wanting to give Nani another chance after 3 years of dross and getting booed off but for Ashley helping us get top 4 this season is still not worthy of praise. Laughable. Looks like LVG has judged the players rightly mind.
By Nani having a better season than any of our wingers? Well done LVG. Genius.
 
By Nani having a better season than any of our wingers? Well done LVG. Genius.

Definitely haven't had a better season than Mata and he's barely outshone the others at a significantly lower level of competition. Nani isn't good enough, and neither have our other candidate wingers been.
 
Definitely haven't had a better season than Mata and he's barely outshone the others at a significantly lower level of competition. Nani isn't good enough, and neither have our other candidate wingers been.
Mata isn't a winger. Champions league a low level? Alright.
 
Before Man City he had 1 goal and 1 assist all season. Take into account that 4 of his assists and the other goal came in 2 games then the productivity reads that he's produced something in terms of a goal or assist in only 4 games he's played this season (23 starts), if you look at it like that.

Did he not play most of the season as a right or left wing back and occasional full back before the Spurs result?

He's only just recently had a run on the left as a winger again.
 
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