Yeah it adds up. We're stacked with quality in midfield already, why would we spend £40m on another.
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Yeah it adds up. We're stacked with quality in midfield already, why would we spend £40m on another.
Literally nobody had any idea whatsoever that we had money. Despite the public sponsorship deals paying us upwards of a basic £130m a season, every club in Europe had us down as being skint. What was he thinking?
And what makes you think Vidal is going to start over the likes of Cleverely, Anderson, Fellaini and don't forget Fletcher.
He signed a new deal with Juve just 6 months ago. I think they will probably tell Juve they got a very attractive offer(s) and ask them to match it, which Juve won't since they just gave him a pay rise a few months ago. If they don't match it, then I think he'll be off.
Yeah but you don't say that, you spin stuff like Van Gaal's doing. "Won't buy unnecessarily" etc.
He has only just signed a new contract, so that seems unlikely. Even if that was that case, I'm sure we can offer substantially more than Juve can if it turns into a bidding war.
Plus one of the original arguments why Juve may let Vidal leave, was to subsidise an increase in Pogba's salary, to keep clubs away from him for at least a season or 2 more until his value peaks. There's no way Juve are strong enough financially to keep offering both players bigger and bigger contracts.
Buying for the sake of it would be buying someone like Cavani. Player we dont need in a position we dont need but hey lets buy him.
When it comes down to the nitty gritty though they know we've got money. It's not like if Everton came in for someone with a £20m bid and said "that is literally all we can afford for him" they're going to believe it and decide to take it or leave it. If we really want a player and offer £20m, we're either going to have to get used to paying £25m (which fans take issue with as shown many times) or we're going to have to get used to the club saying no. Which fans hate too. A lot.
While that's true i still think boasting and buying for the sake of it sets a dangerous precedent. Look at PSG paying 50m for David Lulz. Everyone knew they were loaded, and they didn't try to hide it. But then i suppose they're not bothered however much they pay.
Haha he said "IF". There is still a chance. He could have said Im happy to stay and finish my career at Juventus. Not enthusiastic enough for me. Woody get on the phone.
The uncertainty is with the club, imo. If Juve want to sell then I think he will go. If it were completely down to him I think he wants to stay, he is settled there, he is loved by the fans, his family is happy, etc. But anything can happen in football and only a fool would burn his bridges by making absolute statements.
I think this is just a bit of wanting to have your cake and stuffing your face with it too.
I think he wants more money and a move, but I think he had hopes for Real or a champions league winning contender. He could come to us, but he want's to keep himself sweet with the bianconeri if it's not looking like a good enough deal.
I think he wants more money and a move, but I think he had hopes for Real or a champions league winning contender. He could come to us, but he want's to keep himself sweet with the bianconeri if it's not looking like a good enough deal.
Sounds like he wants to stay, juve want to keep him but his agent is up to no good and unsettling him
If our last 3 transfers are anything to go by, our days for being skint appear to be over
Van Gaal statement that read, "he would not buy players for the sake of it"is directed at Vidal I would presume. We already have a number 8, so right now we need a number 6. If Van Gaal is a smarter man, he would also buy cover for Herrera(kovacic ) because beside maybe Powell, we have no quality cover in the number 8 role.
If it is directed at Cavani, that is not buying players for the sake of it. That is just sheer stupidity.
) because beside maybe Powell, we have no quality cover in the number 8 role. If it is directed at Cavani, that is not buying players for the sake of it. That is just sheer stupidity.
I think Cleverley is cover for Herrera. We need someone in Carrick's role. Fletcher nor Fellaini can do it and with Carrick out for another couple of months, we are in desperate need for a defensive midfielder.
It's like WWE.
Waiting for who turns heel.
Waiting for who turns heel.
Going From Herrera to Cleverley is like changing your ferrari 458 Italia to a fiat. Van gaal used Kagawa in central midfield this pre-season, because even though he is not a central midfielder, he offers attributes similiar to Herrera. Cleverley as the number 8, would change our game style in a negative way as he does not provide the penetrative passes nor does he has the ball movement of a technical gifted footballers. I would rather see Cleverley play the defensive role and continue his sideways, safe passing tradition.
I agree we need a number 6.
Well they are always, always spot on. Other press are always, always off the mark.
To be fair to Vidal, if I were a footballer I'd be a total WUM. I'd be saying stuff like that all the time, and possibly worse.
Van Gaal statement that read, "he would not buy players for the sake of it"is directed at Vidal I would presume. We already have a number 8, so right now we need a number 6. If Van Gaal is a smarter man, he would also buy cover for Herrera(kovacic
I cannot think of a single player in football who would be less of a 'for the sake of it' purchase for us.
I don't give a feck if he's a #8 or a #6 or whatever - Vidal-Herrera would be so much better in every single department than what we can put out at the moment that whether he's slightly too attacking or whatever is virtually irrelevant.
And I reckon the same applies to De Jong, who seems to be the only realistic 'defensive' midfield target people can come up with for us. De Jong is a very average, very limited player. He could quite easily end up being just another Fellaini, with his complete inability to pass or move with the ball outweighing his old-fashioned ball-winning. Vidal-Herrera would be a much, much better partnership than De Jong-Herrera. Especially in front of a back 3, one of whom can basically function as a DM most of the time anyway. And hell, Evans would actually be better on the ball in that role than De Jong. Which pretty much says it all.
Spot on... Plus LVG would be making his job a whole lot easier by buying a player like Vidal to pair with Herrera in the CM.
Not to mention the fact that De Jong has the stink on City on him.
I remember the Sneijder thread in the newbies.
The memories, they scar me. 25,000+ posts of gifs, kermit pictures and general feckery.
This will surpass the Sneijder thread by tomorrow (around 150 more posts to go). But if Vidal related posts from the twitter thread were included, I think we'd be encroaching on Berbatov territory.
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Utd might be denying interest in AV now but it's not true to say they where NEVER in for him. They definitely made approaches a month ago.
Utd might be denying interest in AV now but it's not true to say they where NEVER in for him. They definitely made approaches a month ago.
When did we officially deny interest in Vidal?
Even though Herrera and De Jong is more balanced, I agree that I would rather have Vidal and Herrera even in a 4-2-3-1 system. However, I believe buying a number 8 like Vidal would limit Herrera and imbalance our midfield, as such I see it as buying for the sake of buying. This is without the assumptiom that Herrera would make a great deep lying playmaker, which is completely unknown.
The only caveat - City, PSG, or Real might also be interested...
This is like talking to a child. They're spot on when they report stuff that's actually done, or is well known to be close to done. And when they do that, everyone else is already reporting it. When they report rumours under the banner of "Sky Sources believe" they're no more reliable than anyone else.
If Vidal happens, they'll report it's done when everyone else already knows and is already reporting it. Sky won't break transfer deals happening, they'll report it when it happens and everyone else is already reporting it.
When virtually all the papers said he was not on our radar, and we haven't been in any negotiations for him. It's not 'official', but it is as good as.
No it isn't, it's very far off it.
It quite clearly was coming from our club. It's as close to an official denial, without Woodward or Van Gaal saying we don't want him, as you can get. It doesn't mean it's true, but it is stuff being fed straight from United.
I honestly believe you are getting mixed up between their actual reporting and their transfer clockwatch. I am not like a little child. just because I am treating something like gospel doesn't make me a gullable lunatic. Sky report accurate information all the time. Are you seriously telling me if they have a story tomorrow saying ''Sky Sources believe Arturo Vidal is set for united medical tomorrow'' it will be just as reliable as the Daily Mail who have said it is done and off many times. If they said that, then the medical would take place. Because they provide correct information.
That's all I'll say mate. Not sure why you are so sceptical of a 100% trustworthy source. It's like you think actually believing something makes you 'a little child'
TN is saying that Sky would be reporting that along with every other major outlet (BBC, Times, Telegraph etc). They would report it once it's widely known. Like the Fellaini stuff tonight. Sky wouldn't report it till it's almost there, but the papers have got good info that he's finished here.
My original post was stating that I am sceptical about Vidal because Sky haven't reporting what every other outlet is saying.
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