Arthur Melo - Juventus's old number five

Barcelona forced him to sign for Juventus when he wanted to stay because they need the money or board have to cover the loss...

Can't be surprised when he then refuses to play for them again.
 
The board have treated him shamefully as is their current M.O. of trying to destroy all fun and joy in the world, but he has also disrespected his current team mates by basically saying I don't want to finish the season.
 
Shows his attitude and character. No wonder they forced him to leave in the first place. He will be forgotten about in a couple of years if he continues like this
 
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Mb194dc said:
Barcelona forced him to sign for Juventus when he wanted to stay because they need the money or board have to cover the loss...

Can't be surprised when he then refuses to play for them again.
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This makes no sense. He has a contract until the day that it ends. Until then, he must play. There are very few circumstances that would excuse not playing, and being upset because your company wants to move you on (which you can still say yes or no to) is not one of them.
 
They should have done what RB Leipzig and Werner did, and let him free. it is really awkward when you just force a sold player to sit on the bench for remainder of season.
 
Gazza said:
This makes no sense. He has a contract until the day that it ends. Until then, he must play. There are very few circumstances that would excuse not playing, and being upset because your company wants to move you on (which you can still say yes or no to) is not one of them.
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In this scenario, every company would have put their employee on gardening leave. Werner was. After the way they've pushed him out, Barcelona have some nerve expecting him to play.
 
Pace Abuser said:
In this scenario, every company would have put their employee on gardening leave. Werner was. After the way they've pushed him out, Barcelona have some nerve expecting him to play.
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Not at all. Barcelona could have handled it better but if you have a contract, you have to play. There’s no nuance here, even if we all feel for the way Arthur has been treated.
 
Gazza said:
Not at all. Barcelona could have handled it better but if you have a contract, you have to play. There’s no nuance here, even if we all feel for the way Arthur has been treated.
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They can't force him, obviously. If he has to play, but doesn't, what do you think will happen?
 
Gazza said:
Eh? That’s not my point at all. My point is Arthur is not right to refuse to fulfill his contractual obligationsㅋ
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Oh. "if you have a contract, you have to play. There’s no nuance here" is a pretty extreme stance to take, in that case.
 
Gazza said:
Well, presumably it’s breach of contract ? Not understanding your issue here
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Legally, as in they could sue him for it? Maybe, maybe not, but it is for sure nuanced. Although I understood you more to be speaking morally, seeing as you were responding to someone saying that Barcelona shouldn't be surprised after how they treated him.
 
It pretty much is breach of contract, yeah. They can’t force performance as he physically refuses to play, and claiming damages is pretty pointless. They can probably dock his wages, but it’s quite clearly more than that for both parties here.
 
NotThatSoph said:
Legally, as in they could sue him for it? Maybe, maybe not, but it is for sure nuanced. Although I understood you more to be speaking morally, seeing as you were responding to someone saying that Barcelona shouldn't be surprised after how they treated him.
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fair enough, I will agree there is nuance in the moral and emotional sides of it.
 
Did Arthur want to stay at Barca but the club wanted him out? Or did Barca want to keep him but he wanted to leave hence the swap deal with Juve for Pjanic?
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
Did Arthur want to stay at Barca but the club wanted him out? Or did Barca want to keep him but he wanted to leave hence the swap deal with Juve for Pjanic?
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The first one, he was used for a shady accounting to circumvent FFP.
 
Nah feck Barca, what do they expect when they force him out of the club?
 
Gazza said:
This makes no sense. He has a contract until the day that it ends. Until then, he must play. There are very few circumstances that would excuse not playing, and being upset because your company wants to move you on (which you can still say yes or no to) is not one of them.
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He should have just told the board to eat it and cover the loss out of their pockets, not his fault they need the money so desperately...

My guess is he wasn't given a "choice" but to go, one way or another.

Could have done a Bale and simply refused I guess. Instead he's done this and refused to play for them again.

What we need to know is how they got him to agree to go when he has a contract and wanted to stay...?
 
I still can't believe Barca sanctioned this deal

Players like him are extremely rare
 
Mb194dc said:
He should have just told the board to eat it and cover the loss out of their pockets, not his fault they need the money so desperately...

My guess is he wasn't given a "choice" but to go, one way or another.

Could have done a Bale and simply refused I guess. Instead he's done this and refused to play for them again.

What we need to know is how they got him to agree to go when he has a contract and wanted to stay...?
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Did Bale refuse to play? I thought Zidane didn't want him.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
Did Bale refuse to play? I thought Zidane didn't want him.
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Refused to leave, rather than to play. Also more RMs fault as didn't give free transfer, yet.

Wages are more an issue there though.

With Melo somehow Barcelona got him to sign for Juve against his will. Question is how? Will likely explain his actions if we ever find out what they did I think...?
 
I get that he's upset, but there is only the champions league left to play and they have a decent shot of winning it. This is the whole point of being a footballer besides the money.

If they actually went and won it while he sat in Brazil, he'll be regretting this I reckon.
 
SilentWitness said:
Nah, don't agree with that at all. Fair enough with Bale doing what he's doing at Madrid because he's still making himself available for selection. Actively running away and not returning while you're still under contract? Shitty.
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He's a Juventus player now, can't imagine it'll go too well if he got injured while playing for Barcelona
 
I don't agree with Arthur but probably would have done the same afte how he got treated by Barca.

Love to see it. Don't cry Bart. This is what you get for treating one of your own the way you did. I feel for Barca. Once Messi retires, God help them
 
Has Pjanic been playing for Juve since the move or is he on the bench?

I doubt Arthur would start in CL ahead of Busquets, De Jong or even Vidal so he knows the way the wind is blowing.

Barca just treathalf their signings in last 4-5 years like cattle, talk they're going to move Braithwaite on in the summer now.
 
FootballHQ said:
Has Pjanic been playing for Juve since the move or is he on the bench?

I doubt Arthur would start in CL ahead of Busquets, De Jong or even Vidal so he knows the way the wind is blowing.

Barca just treathalf their signings in last 4-5 years like cattle, talk they're going to move Braithwaite on in the summer now.
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Forgot about Braithwaite. Did he play much?
 
Would he not just want to play football?

Whatever about feeling fecked over or being bitter about the situation, surely you'd just really want to try and win a Champions League.
 
elmo said:
They've already agreed on the deal. Juventus won't be happy if Arthur shows up injured.

Barcelona fecked up, end of story.
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Pedro agreed to join Roma and still played for Chelsea. It happens all the time where players agree a deal with another club but still play for the club they’re at until their contract agreement expires.

If you’re contracted then you have no right to refuse to play and Barca are well within their rights to fine him heavily.

The other player in the deal, Pjanic, has been playing for Juve after the deal has been announced.

You’re wrong.
 
SilentWitness said:
Pedro agreed to join Roma and still played for Chelsea. It happens all the time where players agree a deal with another club but still play for the club they’re at until their contract agreement expires.

If you’re contracted then you have no right to refuse to play and Barca are well within their rights to fine him heavily.

The other player in the deal, Pjanic, has been playing for Juve after the deal has been announced.

You’re wrong.
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They can fine him all they want, they forced him out in the first place. Who would have thought forcing a player out would make them unwilling to play for the club?

Any other normal year and he'll be in a Juventus jersey by now.
 
elmo said:
They can fine him all they want, they forced him out in the first place. Who would have thought forcing a player out would make them unwilling to play for the club?

Any other normal year and he'll be in a Juventus jersey by now.
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It's not a normal year so that point doesn't stand. The situation would still be the same if he was moving in July and he was refusing to play in May/June.

All it shows is that he is unprofessional. Pjanic didn't throw out his toys and refuse to play for Juve once this move was finalised and as said before, Arthur could have refused to move which he didn't.
 
Did Barcelona put a gun to his head when he signed that contract with Juventus?
 
It’d feel like such a Barca board thing to now file a complaint about him that gets him banned for a season or something like that, leaving Juventus completely shafted. Not sure anything like that would even be a possible outcome, but I can already imagine the headlines. :lol:
 
The player feels that the club have mistreated him and believes that the transfer was done to balance the club’s accounts, rather than taken through any sporting decision
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You think? It's almost like the board did it so they wouldn't have to cover the loss personally... Question is why he didn't just refuse, had a contract with Barca and can just refuse to go.
 
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