There is literally no movement within the Arsenal fanbase to remove Arteta. We believe he is a seirous manager and one of the best up and ocming managers in the world.
Yet rival fans believe Arteta's job is on the line
Nice strawman you've got thereYet rival fans believe Arteta's job is on the line
We're well on track to doing the finish 8th twice thing though.
I was really impressed yesterday with Havertz and his work rate but yeah, you really lack a bit of ruthlessness at CF.
Hate to disagree with a fellow Gooner, but this simply isn’t true.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. When City dropped points in every game where Rodri was suspended, I thought it was because they lost a key player and even City will miss that level of quality. I think it’s a bit conceited as an Arsenal fan to think that had anything to do with our performances at the time.
Yep, I definitely share that sentiment. Maybe we’ll trauma bond across the course of the season.
Trossard, Martinelli, Jesus, Saka, Havertz. Isn’t that quite enough?
Jesus is already injured again even though it doesn't look too serious. If Havertz or Saka are out of the team we are in trouble. I don't count Nelson because he's either leaving or riding his contract on the bench for another year.
I'd never take Bruno over Odeegard. Anyone who's seen Odegaard play in a high pressing, possession team would agree on this too. His running and pressing is insane. Anytime the opposing GK has the ball its Odegaard running his lungs out to close him down and then the rest follow his example. He doesn't whine or throws his hands about with pretty poor body language.
It is a lot of movement, but we were probably already slow on most of those transfers out to the point they are not worth much or anything. We leave these for another year, I am not sure they will get much next summer following a similar pattern. We got Tomi to sign a new contract recently as well. Seems like a bit of a waste when we know the likely end result.
Bruno's G/A was 6 more than Odegaard... and 6 of them were penalties. There's really not much to choose between them when it comes to end product. However, in terms of their all round game, I much prefer Odegaard. He pretty much matches Bruno's output while contributing to our domination of virtually every match we play. I've yet to see Bruno be part of a midfield that consistently controls games and this is his fifth season in the PL.
I understand the argument that 6 goals were penalties but I think you have to consider Bruno is playing in a far less settled team. I truly think Bruno is underrated by fans in the PL. United have rarely consistently controlled games and it's not all down to Bruno. Odegaard is playing with players that suit the entire system Arsenal are playing and they are very good at it. Bruno doesn't have that too often at United. It's night and day with United when Bruno comes off or isn't available. I am convinced Arsenal would have won the league last season with Bruno in their team.
Not a chance. We'd have less points and concede more goals because we're not that good at defending counter attacks. And there would be plenty of these with Bruno on the ball.
That's another point you are making. Odegaard is ery stingy at giving away possession, not only through passes but also just controlling. He rarely has his pocket picked, opening up a counter.
I think that comment you made is true in terms of the perspective. The truth is Bruno doesn't shine as much as he could because of what's around him and that's where I'm coming from by mentioning a what if.
I think you would score more goals with him in the team. Fernandes has I think (correct me if I'm wrong), the top chance creation in Europe's top 5 leagues since he came to United. He does in the PL since he came - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/big_chance_created
I fully agree with that, alright. His team puts him under less pressure than our lot. I think Arsenal pretty much set up around Odegaard. With United, well, it's hard to not what we are doing sometimes.
Nobody is paying the 20m+ Arsenal want for him this summer. Loaning him out just for the wages might not be worth it since we'd need to bring somebody in.
I think that comment you made is true in terms of the perspective. The truth is Bruno doesn't shine as much as he could because of what's around him and that's where I'm coming from by mentioning a what if.
There is a noticeable drop in quality when he's not our on team. Our entire level drops and there's evidence of that against Brighton, the second he came off the pitch United stopped playing football.
I think you would score more goals with him in the team. Fernandes has I think (correct me if I'm wrong), the top chance creation in Europe's top 5 leagues since he came to United. He does in the PL since he came - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/big_chance_created
He's doing that in a far less better team.
I fully agree with that, alright. His team puts him under less pressure than our lot. I think Arsenal pretty much set up around Odegaard. With United, well, it's hard to not what we are doing sometimes.
Nice chat lads, was just curious to what you think! I know it's fantasy and a what if.
