I thought you've only seen him play like twice?
Arjen Robben
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3 times + highlights.
That not enough to see that he's fast, scores goals and is a threat in the air?
In one of the matches he scored a hat trick.
3 games is apparently enough to pronounce a 17 year old kid the future "best ball-playing central defender in the world" (exact quote)
I should add he didn't actually play centre-back in any of those games.
And it was 2 games, come to think of it, not 3.
And it was 2 games, come to think of it, not 3.
That would be Dodo, right?Ekeke is a top class muppet alright.
Please insert "can become" before that, so as not to take it out of context. No need to play dirty.
I don't think it's enough to suggest him as an option for us to buy for the wing.
Fair enough. I do though. Performed very well for his club and in the international performances I saw. Clearly a very talented player, clearly has the skills I mentioned. Consistancy I'm obviously not sure of.
Heh. Fair point.
Still, you are incredibly quick to jump to far-fetched conclusions.
EDIT: So it WAS will become, not can become! Cheeky cnut!
Quoting it hasn't really helped you there!
Hey at least I was honest and provided the exact quote! Could have been a cheeky cnut and let my own inaccuracy slide, but thats not what I'm about! If I'm wrong I'm wrong. Just not often
No one has mentioned him because he is fecking shit. I'd rather we developed Welbeck into the next Ronaldo on the flank, than waste any cash on such a head case.
Calm down Chief. Robben has his issues - not least his being 213 years old - but he's not actually 'shit'.
I'm sorry but he is Aged 25, still as selfish as he is, a horrible attitude , yet with the natural abilities he is blessed with. That's shit in my book.
I doubt a Fergie can ever put the fella straight. He is too old for such a task.
I doubt a Fergie can ever put the fella straight. He is too old for such a task.
Let alone 'fecking shit'
I'd prefer Welbeck got games on the wing than sign Robben as well. I watched him frustrate and amaze with his selfishness enough this season without having to watch him do the same in a United shirt next season.
Robben is not shit.
He's a fantastic winger, when fit...
You are a chief disser of Nani who is aged 22 and in experienced. Yet you want us to sign a player with all Nani's diseases and worse ones like a bad attitude and on pitch selfishness. Expalin this phenomena please
Its because he's injured often, so we'd only be exposed to his selfishness for short runs of 8 or 9 games and then we'd have a break.
I rate Robben, though he obviously has some pretty serious flaws. Would love to see if Sir Alex could sort him out.
How do you give a player bravery?
I think Sir Alex was talking about Robben's reputation of having to be 110% fit otherwise he wont play. A bit like some feel Saha was.
I would not want Robben here unless Real were giving him away from free. He can be deadly but is another Louis Saha or Hargreaves and we dont want that really!! Ribery would be amazing but thats very doubtful also but I am sure maybe Fergie might have gotten Real to sign something not to buy Ribery if he sold them Ronaldo!!
To be fair i read you two argue (read discuss) that one out and he was right whichever way you look at it. Centre backs usually have very little technical skill. If Rio's a very technically gifted centre back you know it doesnt take all that much to one of most technically gifted centre backs around. If Evra could play centre half he'd be that. You dont need to look at Messi more than 5 times to say he's the best dribber in the world. It takes even lesser to be the best ball playing CB in the world.
You seem to be hanging on to this one a bit too dearly
To be fair i read you two argue (read discuss) that one out and he was right whichever way you look at it. Centre backs usually have very little technical skill. If Rio's a very technically gifted centre back you know it doesnt take all that much to one of most technically gifted centre backs around. If Evra could play centre half he'd be that. You dont need to look at Messi more than 5 times to say he's the best dribber in the world. It takes even lesser to be the best ball playing CB in the world.
You seem to be hanging on to this one a bit too dearly
There's a difference between being the best ball-playing central defender in the world, and the central defender who's best with the ball in the world. There are a lot of ball-playing central defenders out there. Dodo might be better with the ball than all of them, but that doesn't make him the best ball-playing central defender in the world, which implies he's actually a better defender.
Apparently he'd be available for 7 million, surely that's wrong.
I suggested this last week before all this Ronaldo stuff, and got my head bitten off. But either way what with yesterdays developments United, and even Liverpool, would be doing themselves a diservice if they didn't bid for him. Surely?
Cheap, quality, proven. The real problem's his injury prone nature, but if anyone cites his khunt factor they'd be kidding themselves. I suppose another question is would he be able to fit into United's system? I think he'd be magnificent if given a free-like role that Ronaldo was given.
I suggested this last week before all this Ronaldo stuff, and got my head bitten off. But either way what with yesterdays developments United, and even Liverpool, would be doing themselves a diservice if they didn't bid for him. Surely?
Cheap, quality, proven. The real problem's his injury prone nature, but if anyone cites his khunt factor they'd be kidding themselves. I suppose another question is would he be able to fit into United's system? I think he'd be magnificent if given a free-like role that Ronaldo was given.
You're kidding yourself. Ronaldo is all of those things, but he still took the league by storm. At the least you'd have acquired a very direct attacking threat from the flanks, in Robben.
And 25 is certainly not old for a player. Especially for a player to learn, that's just a ridiculously unfounded statement.
It would be a gamble that could pay dividends. If used sparingly and rotated with Nani, he would be extremely useful for us. Nani, Park, Robben, Welbeck, Tosic, and possibly Valencia, I'd be happy with that. Should have a decent sized chunk left for a big name striker as well. Robben may be selfish, but unlike Nani he can actually be consistently devastating with the ball. If we get him I can see him staying on for the remainder of his best years with us.
Injury prone Robben? no way. I would rather see us sign Alexis Sanchez.
Personally I've always felt Robben just needs the right environment. A patient, forgiving kind of environment, which I think Sir Alex would create for him.
Last place he'll ever find such an atmosphere is R. Madrid with their turnover of managers and players. Difficult to develop positively as a player there. The club's always in transition, and with only a few exceptions they treat their players as disposable assets.
And Mourinho clearly had no time for Robben at Chelsea since he wouldn't fit into the mechanical, predictable system he wanted. In the end, he couldn't repeat his early form where he was annihilating teams on his own because Mourinho was always just waiting for any excuse to take him off. Robben was never going to be a player Mourinho had faith in. I suppose he started sulking, started getting injured, and when playing, rejected Mourinho's emphasis on a team ethic and tried showing off his individual ability.
Which isn't a very good reflection on Robben. He'd need accommodating and would be a risky signing. But I reckon Robben's problems mentally could be managed and he could be improved. Sir Alex would have time for a player like Robben. There've been loads of players who've tested the patience of the fans and their teammates, but Fergie has stood behind them and watched them flourish. Ronaldo being the obvious example. The likes of Fletcher, Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic and hopefully Berbatov in the future are current examples
robben is devastatingly good on the ball. the only 'winger' better at attacking his fullback/defender is messi. robben is that elite. would love to see him at united, but won't happen.
He has played about 25 league matches each of the last 2 seasons...so I wouldn't say he is that injury prone
Exactly this.
Great player but I couldn't handle another guy who gets as many injuries as he does.
Good player, but unlikely to happen as Real will probably have plans to use him in their new Galactico set up. Same applies to Sniejder.
Robben? Yes please.
One of the few that has the potential to replace Ronaldo. There are obvious uncertainties about him (bravery/fitness) but if the price is right he's worth a shot. And if the price is as low as £7m as someone said, must.bite.hand.off. Deal of the decade.
One of the few that has the potential to replace Ronaldo. There are obvious uncertainties about him (bravery/fitness) but if the price is right he's worth a shot. And if the price is as low as £7m as someone said, must.bite.hand.off. Deal of the decade.
negatives outweigh the positives for me with this one......and 7m? You're kidding. To Spurs maybe. 15m to United.
Apart from that, Ferg will probably say that he's "missed the bus" and had his chance and blew it due to greed. Not an attitude to endear Fergie with.
Apart from that, Ferg will probably say that he's "missed the bus" and had his chance and blew it due to greed. Not an attitude to endear Fergie with.
True. He played 78 games over the course of the last two seasons, 70 for Real Madrid and eight for the Dutch national team. 35 games a season (for the club, 39 overall) is a number the likes of Saha (who only averaged 27 games) and Hargreaves (18) can only dream of.
I was thinking the same thing. He would be a great player to bring in. I'm surprised SAF didn't look at a couple of Madrid players. We would have probably got them cheaper as well.
I rated Robben in his first season at Chelsea but he hasn't reached those heights since.
I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as Ribery right now - Ribery is above him by some distance imo.