Absolutely this. The damage he did to the aura of Manchester United is felt to this day. Smaller clubs were beaten before the kick off at Old Trafford, now we see the likes of WBA, Burnley, Sheffield United and Palace and Newcastle in recent years giving it a right go. Moyes can feck off to mid table obscurity next season and hope Jesse finds a higher level then them.
Are you happy for David Moyes?
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I think hardly anyone wouldn't have.
Only the ones who lack any sort of ambition would decline.
I don't think Big Sam is going to come in and say Tally ho, let's make Manchester United into Stoke. I am going to sack all these coaches who have won a lot of trophies and bring in people who have never won anything.
The thing is Moyes has always come across as really insecure at the best of times. That was brutally highlighted in his time at United. So even though Ferguson got him to agree to keep the coaching staff on and objectively it made sense to keep the coaching staff around. Moyes just needed his comfort blanket of yes men, and quite the curious quartet they were.
Steve Round a coach of such high calibre I'm not sure if he's worked as a coach at any level since leaving United. It doesn't look like he's had any desire to work with Moyes again.
Phil Neville the future manager of the England womens team and an MLS team his mate started. Hasn't worked with Moyes since.
Chris Woods of the 4 probably the only one who was a decent coach. Worked for West Ham for 2-3 years after leaving United.
Jimmy Lumsden, no one knows what Wee Jimmy did before, during or after his stint at United. Is he even a football coach? Who knows. He hasn't worked with Moyes again either despite being his assistant for over 20 years at 3 different clubs.
I would of been so so happy for him if he would of knocked our Liverpool of out top 4. But now, I don't care anymore.
I'm not Moyes No1 fan but I see people still banging on about some nonsense years later. I've seen several interviews where he claims responsibility for the terrible season both during it and afterwards, he may have made some other silly comments but no idea people keep harping on about the responsibility part. He obviously feels aggrieved as he was promised a long term project which was cut short however the decision was made as we were under performing. In terms of being gifted a fantastic squad, people underestimate the man management of SAF and RVPs' goals which basically won us the league that season. The squad needed improvement - ageing defence and especially in midfield. Moyes however made the wrong moves in the transfer market. There was no excuse for the incompetence shown where we went after targets we had no chance in getting and ended up with Fellaini who really wasn't the player we needed.
Transition from SAF was always going to be difficult. Ultimately the jump from top half team to managing a top team going for the title was a step too far for Moyes. He showed his lack of experience at the top level by perhaps appointing the wrong back room staff and making mistakes in the transfer market when he had the time to pick the right targets. To still blame him however for our current failures however when we've had different managers and spent millions of pounds is utter stupidity.
He still is a solid manager for a top half team and has shown that with West Ham this season.
Transition from SAF was always going to be difficult. Ultimately the jump from top half team to managing a top team going for the title was a step too far for Moyes. He showed his lack of experience at the top level by perhaps appointing the wrong back room staff and making mistakes in the transfer market when he had the time to pick the right targets. To still blame him however for our current failures however when we've had different managers and spent millions of pounds is utter stupidity.
He still is a solid manager for a top half team and has shown that with West Ham this season.
No he wasn't. Thiago chose Bayern because Pep convinced him to go there. Moyes' mistake was going after players we had no chance of getting and wasting our time on those.
Yes.
Was giving a poison chalice in not only following on from Sir Alex but also had an aging squad who had served Sir Alex to years. In hindsight jumping from Everton to this, he was always going to fail, happy for him that he has found his confidence again and showing what he can do.
Was giving a poison chalice in not only following on from Sir Alex but also had an aging squad who had served Sir Alex to years. In hindsight jumping from Everton to this, he was always going to fail, happy for him that he has found his confidence again and showing what he can do.
Moyes was better than them. He had Everton constantly around the top 6. Neither Allardyce nor Pulis have done that. Big Sam did take the England job so would have taken a top job if offered it however no club were going to.
Like wasting weeks chasing Fabregas. That was annoying.
I'd be genuinely interested in seeing one of those, were they recent? Do you have any links?
I've never seen him accept any responsibility for the clusterfeck that was his United tenure, but if he has changed his tune I'll say fair play to him. But I'd need to see it to believe it.
Yeah he reportedly didn't even want to go after Thiago because he didn't know his credentials. Thought Fabregas was a safer bet.
Has someone put Ole's "Couldn't care less" gif yet 
Games not over yet, but to go away in Europe and dominate the way West Ham have done this evening is kudos to Moyes. He's built a really solid side. Hats off to him.
You'd have to have a heart of stone not to be happy for him at the minute. Fans cheering his name for the first time in a decade. Getting results. Even a smile on his face.
Bastards just cost me £60. Other than that, happy for him
No. He's a miserable bastard.
Will always dislike him for his "aspire to play like City" comment. Unforgivable to arrive at the house of the champions and spout that mid-table rot.
No, never really liked him
of course.
Nah, he's a miserable prick.
It was not his fault that United were foolish enough to hire him. He's a decent manager and seems to be doing a solid job for Everton again, just like he did for West Ham.
I have a heart of stone then. I will never be happy for him having destroyed SAF's legacy in the space of a few months.
I think its fair to say after 12 years of absolute shite, it may not have been his fault.
I think it's fair to say that, by October/November he'd destroyed everything that SAF took over 25 years to build.
I remember them booing and gloating how much better Martinez not so long ago, after everything he’d done for them.
That's not possible if you take a few seconds to think about it
It’s astonishing to think that, despite all the time that’s passed since his sacking in 2013, we’ve made so little progress. It really highlights just how poor our recruitment has been, not only in terms of players but also when it comes to managerial appointments.
Honestly, it wouldn’t be a complete shock if Everton ended up finishing above us.
Honestly, it wouldn’t be a complete shock if Everton ended up finishing above us.
Neither happy nor unhappy for him.
I can't say I was fond of him or his Everton team's style during that first spell - and still haunted by the late goals in the 4-4 that played a big part in costing us the 2011/12 title.
His one terrible season with us certainly isn't enough to have me follow his career, wishing him well. But I don't wish him ill luck either.
Other than us, he's managed at the right levels of PL clubs that suit his style more. So a little annoying whenever he does comparatively well at clubs of those levels and it's unnecessarily used as evidence we treated him badly and should have given him longer or something.
Like a lot of British managers, he pretty much has a ceiling and a level of club and player, and style of play, that suits them. Everton is about that level. As were West Ham. Not clubs with the expectations or demands to be competing for PL and CL success.
I can't say I was fond of him or his Everton team's style during that first spell - and still haunted by the late goals in the 4-4 that played a big part in costing us the 2011/12 title.
His one terrible season with us certainly isn't enough to have me follow his career, wishing him well. But I don't wish him ill luck either.
Other than us, he's managed at the right levels of PL clubs that suit his style more. So a little annoying whenever he does comparatively well at clubs of those levels and it's unnecessarily used as evidence we treated him badly and should have given him longer or something.
Like a lot of British managers, he pretty much has a ceiling and a level of club and player, and style of play, that suits them. Everton is about that level. As were West Ham. Not clubs with the expectations or demands to be competing for PL and CL success.
He’s among the primary reasons we’ve been in this mess to begin with, so no, I’m not happy for him. But it’s not personal.
I've taken 12 years to think about it and my view hasn't changed.
Surely you don’t actually believe that? He’s probably not in the top 10 of people responsible for the mess we’re in.
He bought in one player, can’t remember who left that year but Van Gaal was the one who shipped out the likes of Welbeck, Rafael etc and filled the squad with dross.
He’s clearly got something a lot of decent managers don’t, but wasn’t good enough for United.
Less about comparing managers against one another and more about how his inept reign led to the general losing mentality that led to the domino effect of feckups in managerial appointments, transfers, etc. In other words there’s no LVG without Moyes, who despite having an aging squad, took champions from 1st to 7th. And in that journey, some of the worst football played and some of the cringiest moments.
In recent times, we’ve been shit with a squad of wankers. In his time, United have been shit with a squad of perennial winners. It started with him, and that’s why I put him near the top. Glazers head and shoulders in 1st. Woodward in a close 2nd, and Judge in a close 3rd. Then Moyes in a distant 4th.
Thought I still resented him but actually found myself happy for him getting good results. I might not be such a miserable pr*ck after all
Can’t say I feel much for David Moyes. Don’t feel happy for his wins, or schadenfreude when he loses. No different than Dyche, Potter, Silva, or Howe.
Agree to disagree. He should have said something like "United should aspire to play like they did last season [before I poisoned them with my Everton mentality]."
I've never disliked him. He's a good manager that was in over his head at United. I really hope he has a relatively successful second spell at Everton and gets them into European football over the next couple of years.
Good honest man
It’s all about expectations with managers, go to,say, Bournemouth, Brighton, Palace, Fulham, Brentford, etc and they are happy to stay in PL, so managers are given a bit of leeway, but of course when a manager goes to United, Arsenal,Liverpool, Chelsea, etc then immediate success is expected, so no leeway is given. I am personally hoping this time they stick with Amorim and give him a fair chance.
Indifferent to him now mostly but I do recognise he’s good at a certain level.
Everton, historically, are a fairly big club though and I just think they’re a club that are always stagnant when they should be doing better. I don’t think Moyes or the current owners will do much more than keep them in the league.
Everton, historically, are a fairly big club though and I just think they’re a club that are always stagnant when they should be doing better. I don’t think Moyes or the current owners will do much more than keep them in the league.