Any Positive Fans Out Here??

hn4manunited

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I have enjoyed this forum over the years but I’m going to take a break from this forum. There’s nothing but doom and gloom on here when I actually have felt pretty great and positive about progress we’ve made under Jose. Fans on here have a pretty short memory.

Sometimes, the results and performances may have been frustrating but that’s football. If it’s not frustrating, it’s not really realistic is it? Being able to spend and spend and spend and win and win and win without ups and downs, what fun is that?

I remember majority of those years under SAF. There were ups and downs more than some of you remember! Some seasons more frustrating than others but it was always fun. We played some good football and we also played some atrocious football. We have gone at teams and we have taken the approach of going in for a draw or setting up to not allow the other team to play football. Pragmatists and winners will always find a way to achieve success by doing what’s necessary for the bigger picture or greater good. There is not only one way to win.

These forums/messageboards used to be a tight community of information sharing with reasonable discussions and enjoying each other being a part of supporting a great club like this. There were always some outliers but not like these days. It’s now all about nagging and whining and slagging off any bit of positivity out of our great community and club.

Anyway, all I want to do is leave this forum with my last post with a little bit of positivity. For those who can’t see or appreciate, there is something great happening here. It is already a great thing to be supporting this club. Enjoy every bit of it even if it may be little wins no matter how small in every aspect of this great club. Seeing those appreciable things may help you enjoy this club more. Nitpicking will never end:)

Best wishes and good luck to every one.
 
He bows out with message 433. Apt.
 
Sure but the league was over to soon for us fans and the recent dip in form is because the players felt the league was officially over so they weren't mentally there. We should finish 2nd but it doesn't really matter if we finish 4th, it will amount to the same thing. Priority should be on the cups that are left when applicable.

City could have lost points several times during their opening run but they didn't, it was just their season. If they had our players would have been more up for it for longer. The same for Chelsea who also weren't doing badly to begin with but similar things happened over in their camp. Easier for Liverpool to motivate themselves because they were never competing for the title and being behind in the top 4 made them more focused and dedicated which for some part explains why they've been playing better.

A big part of it is mental, just look at Madrid. They are in a lot worse shape than us in the league but they just beat PSG 3-1 in the CL. They were certainly up for that match but they know the league is over and they're basically coasting it.

What we've got left now is like I said, the cups. I'm not expecting much from the rest of the league games, just hope that Sanchez will click well, Martial continue to do well, Pogba picks up his spirits and maybe Rashfords finds some form again.
 
Most of the haters in here are LvG boys. They never accepted that their favorite man was sacked by the club in favor of the evil Mourinho.
 
God, some of you must drink yourselves into a coma when you face real life adversity that actually matters.
 
Going for 2nd is better than 6th every year.

Look at those points we lost, stupid points. 6 over Christmas for a start, plus Stoke Away 2 points lost. Could have been much respectable, with something to build on next season.

Tottenham and Newcastle aways concerning, but if we beat our rivals at home for the rest of the season, then we should easily get top 4. Which is progress.

Sad to say, but that's where we are at the moment.

A good summer transfer window with Central Mid to help Pogba, and some full backs, then I will be even more positive next season.

Well done poster.
 
hn4manunited said:
These forums/messageboards used to be a tight community of information sharing with reasonable discussions and enjoying each other being a part of supporting a great club like this.
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Not since I've been a member. This place is (and was) a melting pot of all types. It used to be way more aggressive but because you were (more often than not) the best team in the country there was not as much to moan about.
 
Yeah, we need to break the silence surrounding living with HIV infection!

...ah, that's not what you meant
 
There was always negativity, even under Fergie. The amount of complaints about line ups, signings, latterly "zombie" football: it was just that, by and large, we were very good so there wasn't as much mileage combined with it being a lot harder to get out of the newbie forum.
 
Sometimes I'm disappointed, but whenever I check the team sheets before the game & see names like Pogba, De Gea, Martial, & Sanchez all on the pitch at the same time... I dream a little :)

We're definitely headed in the right direction, you can especially see that when Premier League sides play in Europe this season... it's a tougher league, and we're closer to the top than we were.
 
Lord SInister said:
I am always positive, but lets be honest there is no inspiration this team is giving, it is looking dull and gloomy, hence the reactions.
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This pretty much sums up my feelings too. I think we've a great group of talented players and one of the best managers (positive). The team playing within itself and looking like they don't giving a feck because ''the league is over'' (negative). Negativity breeds negativity, the mentally at the club needs to change. If we're playing and winning with confident, sexy football then our players will have believe in their ability. So yea, we need to improve our formation and attacking football and I'm 99% sure we'll be able to content for all honors even with the same group of players.
 
I understand the point(s) made by the OP. But being a drama queen about it (starting a thread as you go for the parachute) doesn’t help. I remember the expectation of excellence that prevailed in the Newbies. Good posts, better posts, likes, great mods, etc, etc. The reality is more speckled- I’m still only getting my head around it. It seems to me there are many Cafs, many sub bubbles. There’s the gaming crowd. The match day moaners trying to show they have seen a soccer match. There’s the low maintenance crowd who love the sound of their own voices but never read back on threads.

But there are some funny, witty and insightful posters in here too. When a certain aircraft accident happened there were people who knew all the jargon. The Bowie and various other music threads have been amazing. Some very funny threads have happened, there’s a great sense of humour here, not least among the muppets. And there is the ignore button.
 
Too many outraged customers. Most, not even customers because they aren’t even paying customers.

Not enough supporters.

Supporters who not only pay their way but support with morale.

In fact, the majority of “reds” on here and elsewhere haven’t a clue about support. They have no intention or notion of supporting the club but object to us falling from an unsustainable high, thanks to us being lucky, not only to have had the greatest ever manager but actually have him for a quarter of a century. “We’re Manchester United” they cry from Hong Kong to Barnstaple to Belfast as though it is a given right. We didn’t just become that club without earning it. We are only the Manchester United that they have in their heads because of the work of SAF and those before him, as well as supporters who supported the club through the lean times to enable SAFs recruitment. I think “entitlement” is the albeit, over used, term that fits perfectly. Time for followers to actually support and not whinge because the world class manager that we are lucky to have, is not playing their pin up boy in his or their preferred role or as they would have him playing in their make believe toy-world. Try supporting. It is actually really quite uplifting, even if we become truly average, just like the majority of teams are. You are not superior by attachment to MUFC but merely a bandwagon jumper that we knew we’d become plagued with from the mid 90s. Not everyone can be a STH but at least give the club and incumbent manager your support. That, more than anything has made United different and the club they are today. If we don’t have real support, we’ll be Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and possibly worse. They used to be giants too, or at least top dogs over a period of time. Time for “reds” to become supporters.
 
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We've gone from regularly competing for the title to 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th. This forum was only going one way.
I feel low at the moment to be honest and when I feel like this, I avoid anything football related...even the football section of the forum.
 
mike bird said:
Most of the haters in here are LvG boys. They never accepted that their favorite man was sacked by the club in favor of the evil Mourinho.
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Got one word for you, Cr@p.

I was happy when we called time on LvG, wasn’t happy with the way the club went about it, but it was pointless to carry on with him. On the one hand I was very happy we got Mourinho, but wary of his prima donna behavior on the touchline. I was excited to see what he could do with United, knowing what he had put together at Chelsea, the first time round, the work he did with his Inter team. We all know RM are a club nearly impossible to please. Only concern was the history, first year builds a top team, second season wins the league and third season everything implodes, fights with himself, the players and everyone around him ending up with a broken team/atmosphere and him leaving.
He was the perfect quick fix for United.
Now 18 months on I am getting the feeling we have somehow missed out on Jose’s second season. We have seen the first, somehow missed on the second and have headed straight into the third. I really hope I am proven wrong but I doubt it.
 
It’s not just us, the problem is amplified because City, Liverpool and Spurs are all playing amazing football right now. They’re coherent teams of players, playing a blistering, exciting brand of football, each with star players that produce moments of magic in almost every game.

Then you look at us, and the players don’t even look like they know each other half the time. It’s frustrating enough that we’re in poor form, but when your two biggest rivals look so good and are entertaining in almost every game, it’s no wonder fans are losing their minds.
 
Bit of realism in any other season etc etc, unfortunately not only Utd but the rest of the prem have handed the bitters the title.

Liverpool 18 pts
Chelsea19
Spurs20
Arsenal......27! Pts behind

Are City that good ? Not for me. The inability of the the rest to close that humongous gap is a blighting the PL.

Utd are still the scalp, Spurs highest att , Liverpool dragging off forwards , Huddersfield, Newcastle Stoke playing like men possessed and rolling over v City, Leicester not playing their best player after the camel jockeys had unsettled him.

Not it is what it is Utd still in transition, Jose has a few internal problems, second in the table as bad as it is can’t be sniffed at.

Stop effin moaning.
 
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Marcky411 said:
Got one word for you, Cr@p.

I was happy when we called time on LvG, wasn’t happy with the way the club went about it, but it was pointless to carry on with him. On the one hand I was very happy we got Mourinho, but wary of his prima donna behavior on the touchline. I was excited to see what he could do with United, knowing what he had put together at Chelsea, the first time round, the work he did with his Inter team. We all know RM are a club nearly impossible to please. Only concern was the history, first year builds a top team, second season wins the league and third season everything implodes, fights with himself, the players and everyone around him ending up with a broken team/atmosphere and him leaving.
He was the perfect quick fix for United.
Now 18 months on I am getting the feeling we have somehow missed out on Jose’s second season. We have seen the first, somehow missed on the second and have headed straight into the third. I really hope I am proven wrong but I doubt it.
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Another one with a message 433. Coincidence? Don't think so.

Waiting for new members: Red433, Better Call Paul-433
 
Attention seeking much ? All the various posts criticizing the forum and its state are funny to me. If you don't like it the caf then stop visiting it and mostimportantly don't waste your time telling it that you're leaving because of it as I doubt most truly care.
 
El Zoido said:
It’s not just us, the problem is amplified because City, Liverpool and Spurs are all playing amazing football right now. They’re coherent teams of players, playing a blistering, exciting brand of football, each with star players that produce moments of magic in almost every game.

Then you look at us, and the players don’t even look like they know each other half the time. It’s frustrating enough that we’re in poor form, but when your two biggest rivals look so good and are entertaining in almost every game, it’s no wonder fans are losing their minds.
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This sums it up perfectly. I think we’d be a lot more forgiving of dodgy results and performances if our star players were producing the numbers Salah, Kane etc are.

The lack of attacking cohesion is just really depressing.
 
2nd place in the league, still in CL, still in FA. Best in years tbh?
 
It is a bit tedious atm. Even when there's something positive like a win or a high scoring win some will find something to moan about. Don't get me wrong, we have problems but sometimes it's totally overblown and there are many knee-jer and melodramatic posts and threads. Feelings about our manager don't help either . On gave other hand there are many great posts and posters and many times it's fun here to read stuff. Problem is negativity does prevail.
 
I'm pretty positive usually, but I'm sick and tired of us being good one match and clueless the next. Our attacking play must improve and I am now convinced it's not a player problem but a tactical one. I watched Liverpool, Spurs, City tear it up in the CL and I can't help but feel a bit shit about the fact that we will struggle against Sevilla.
 
People are negative because there are things to be negative about. If i could see some real progress on the pitch, some coherant style, a plan that doesn't just mean throwing 200million on players every summer until something might click, and so on and so forth, i'd be pretty damn happy, i certainly dont expect us to win everytime but i certainly don't expect us to turn out tumescent shite a lot of the time either. I think people just want to have some joy in watching Manchester United again, and i dont mean winning every match and winning every trophy before people say im spoiled, but i dont want to see us cowering against our rivals, not going a goal down and feeling like the match isnt recoverable from that point, showing that we are playing as a team and not 11 individuals, i want to see us playing some damn good football that I pay to watch and i've enjoyed the ups as well as the downs. It's just that we put out passive crap the majority of the time and it inspires no confidence in anyone.

People say well we're 2nd, saying 2nd is simplistic, we're in a fight to make Top 4 is the more realistic way of saying it, because whilst we may be second, we're second because De Gea has dug us out of many holes this season and our rivals have made some stupid mistakes like us, and even then they are only a couple of points behind us.

There is no real CL challenge here, again if i could see any inspiring results on the pitch to have me believe we'll beat the best teams in the world, we'll give it a right go i'd say yes we have a real chance! But based on experience of this season we will cower and invite the pressure on and hope we can nick a goal, lets be realistic, this is based on evidence on the pitch.

FA Cup is our only real possibility and even then, well, Huddersfield beat us before there's nothing to say they can't do so it again

Best in years? Seasons not over yet and has the possibility to turn into one of our worst considering all the money spent since the summer.
 
That's what I'm talking about.

Apparently we're second cause DDG has saved us so many times.
That's not even true. There were many games where he had barely anything to do , it's not that we stumbled onto that second place by accident.

Can it be better? Sure.
Is it that bad that narrative is totally changed? No.
 
What's wrong with you,,,have you not seen today's newspapers?

* Pogba hates it at United and is off to Madrid
*De Gea to Sign for Madrid in Summer
* Pogba hates Sanchez
* Mourinho to sign for PSG after their loss in Madrid
*Huddersfield are gonna batter us at the weekend
* Dunno what else I have missed.

You want us to be Positive after all that??:):):)
 
Denis' cuff said:
Too many outraged customers. Most, not even customers because they aren’t even paying customers.

Not enough supporters.

Supporters who not only pay their way but support with morale.

In fact, the majority of “reds” on here and elsewhere haven’t a clue about support. They have no intention or notion of supporting the club but object to us falling from an unsustainable high, thanks to us being lucky, not only to have had the greatest ever manager but actually have him for a quarter of a century. “We’re Manchester United” they cry from Hong Kong to Barnstaple to Belfast as though it is a given right. We didn’t just become that club without earning it. We are only the Manchester United that they have in their heads because of the work of SAF and those before him, as well as supporters who supported the club through the lean times to enable SAFs recruitment. I think “entitlement” is the albeit, over used, term that fits perfectly. Time for followers to actually support and not whinge because the world class manager that we are lucky to have, is not playing their pin up boy in his or their preferred role or as they would have him playing in their make believe toy-world. Try supporting. It is actually really quite uplifting, even if we become truly average, just like the majority of teams are. You are not superior by attachment to MUFC but merely a bandwagon jumper that we knew we’d become plagued with from the mid 90s. Not everyone can be a STH but at least give the club and incumbent manager your support. That, more than anything has made United different and the club they are today. If we don’t have real support, we’ll be Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and possibly worse. They used to be giants too, or at least top dogs over a period of time. Time for “reds” to become supporters.
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I don't have the privileges to be able to like this, but if I could, I would. Perfect summation
 
Extremely positive, we're moving in the right direction and are one good transfer window from having a well-balanced and very competitive team.

We top manager with a fantastic track record of success, a squad containing Pogba, Sanchez and Zlatan, top young talent in Martial, exceptional homegrown players in the first team squad.

I really don't get the mentality of some of the negative posters in here, count yourself lucky you weren't born in Stoke!
 
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