He’s alright but I thought he was signing for Atlanta
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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The numbers aren't good enough to justify this transfer, both from Antony and the transfer fee. Would much rather us placing faith the existing players at the club and bringing in a backup ST/replacement striker.
Very high price tag for a fairly unproven player. He’s better than what we have on the right though, so I won’t complain. I just hope Ajax will be somewhat reasonable with the transfer fee.
The part that most people are missing is the Premier League Next season is 9 subs on the bench and 5 substitutes which can be made in 3 separate occasions plus an additional fourth during half time.
This means to be an effective attacking elite club which aims to win at least 60% of its games we need some serious ammunition as more often than not we will need to make two or three attacking positions within the game. That means we probably need four options on the pitch and at least four options maybe five out of nine on the bench.
Currently Man United Start next season with ;
Rashford, Sancho, Martial, Bruno, A Ellanga
Maybe but unlikely Ronaldo
Should be no guarantee C Eriksen
Promote from Youth A Ganaucho
Assuming we lose Ronaldo and most fans are not keen on Rashford and Martial we desperately need to get at least one of Antony or Ascensio and Probably a free transfer like Dyballa too or maybe a striker like Patrik Shuck for £25M we need to make some decisions very quickly because our rivals are moving and recruiting to prepare for this new format next season while we dither with transfers to fix the midfield which should have been fixed 2 years ago. We fix that and then what, We struggle to score goals Maybe a 7th or 8th place with 50 points might finally persuade the Glaziers to finally give up.
This means to be an effective attacking elite club which aims to win at least 60% of its games we need some serious ammunition as more often than not we will need to make two or three attacking positions within the game. That means we probably need four options on the pitch and at least four options maybe five out of nine on the bench.
Currently Man United Start next season with ;
Rashford, Sancho, Martial, Bruno, A Ellanga
Maybe but unlikely Ronaldo
Should be no guarantee C Eriksen
Promote from Youth A Ganaucho
Assuming we lose Ronaldo and most fans are not keen on Rashford and Martial we desperately need to get at least one of Antony or Ascensio and Probably a free transfer like Dyballa too or maybe a striker like Patrik Shuck for £25M we need to make some decisions very quickly because our rivals are moving and recruiting to prepare for this new format next season while we dither with transfers to fix the midfield which should have been fixed 2 years ago. We fix that and then what, We struggle to score goals Maybe a 7th or 8th place with 50 points might finally persuade the Glaziers to finally give up.
We will hear more about this in the next 24 if the joint bid with Martinez is correct.
€50 Martinez (confirmed) which would mean €75 for Antony.
€50 Martinez (confirmed) which would mean €75 for Antony.
Are you basically just buying Ajax?
Not a chance we've bid that much for Antony
You can hardly say anything to be fair.
£63m. When you look at Raphinha and Richarlison it’s all in the same ball park really
Martinez and Antony seem likely yeah!
It's Ajax that's asking €125m according to Castles, we are not the one bidding that amount.
I doubt we would bid up to that amount for Antony.
I'm not criticizing just asking. I know we had a membership at Southampton's superstore.
Think it's just the two, if that. I'm only 50/50 we'll get Antony.
Oh when the Saints go marching in
Question is are you getting a pair of Lambert's or a pair of Van Dijk's.
We made such a big deal about standing ground for FDJ price to then go and over spend significantly on these two??
We desperately need a left footed winger for the right hand side. The balance of the squad is just so pointed to the left, with every attacker we have preferring that side. For that reason I’m really hoping we get this deal done as it seems like it’s Anthony or nothing for that role this summer. If not I’ll be very annoyed we didn’t try for Raphina. We can’t go another season leaving the right wing abandoned as we try and slot square pieces into round holes again. We haven’t had a player who’s best position was the right wing since the Nani & Valencia days. It’s absolutely mind boggling how long we’ve gone without addressing that area of the team.
Mane's more like. The Van Dijk is in Barcelona.
I can only imagine what Antony feels when he sees all his friends(Especially Martinez that goes to Antony's favorite club) going to big clubs around Europe and he's outpriced by Ajax for 80m Euros and are making him stay.
You wont get Schick for that I dont think
I don't think Anthony can hold a candle to the level of talent Mane had / has. It's more like Lallana unless he massively improves for United.
tbf. They have two of our own in Van der Sar and Blind. More like an exchange programme.
Hope we dont get this guy he aint worth it, Martinez makes sense he is a better player than Timber right now and was their player of the year. Antony has high work rate but poor numbers even in Eredevisie. There is just better options out there could take that money and potentially get Gnabry and Dumfries for instance.
35mil is pushing it for Martinez and I recall Blind was the Dutch footballer of the year when we paid 17mil for him.
I like Martinez and I would be interested to see how his game holds up when faced with regular pressing in England.
I like Martinez and I would be interested to see how his game holds up when faced with regular pressing in England.
He seems very much like Nani in this video comp . Loves the flair passes and loves beating someone 1v1. He even has the gymnastic back flip celebration for goals. Antony looks like he's in his prime, not the unfinished raw recruit some were suggesting. He's two-footed, fast as feck, loves a risky pass, seems like a very talented player. How he stacks up against Diallo and Pelistri (didn't we buy them for the right side?) I don't know.
I'm really wary of bringing so many players in from not only the same league but also the same team. Players like Memphis Depay, Daley Blind, and even Jozy Altidore looked like monsters in that league, and decidedly less so in the prem. I think Depay could have adapted to playing in the premier league if given another season, Altidore was a lost sheep, and Blind looked like he was a good but not great player, and that's after he was Dutch POTY.
There's something to be said for team cohesion, and all of these players being mooted already know how to play with each other, but I feel we're going to be like a newly promoted side, hopefully one like Brentford, and not one like Norwich.
I'm really wary of bringing so many players in from not only the same league but also the same team. Players like Memphis Depay, Daley Blind, and even Jozy Altidore looked like monsters in that league, and decidedly less so in the prem. I think Depay could have adapted to playing in the premier league if given another season, Altidore was a lost sheep, and Blind looked like he was a good but not great player, and that's after he was Dutch POTY.
There's something to be said for team cohesion, and all of these players being mooted already know how to play with each other, but I feel we're going to be like a newly promoted side, hopefully one like Brentford, and not one like Norwich.
My problem with him is he's maybe too similar to Sancho, I think he's quicker than him but his biggest quality remains in his passing and ball-carrying. His dribbling success also seems to suffer more in the CL, so you wonder how much it will translate from the Eredivisie to the PL.
This seemed like a reasonable gamble at £40m that was touted at the start of the transfer window. The numbers we're hearing now are just too silly and make the transfer not really worth it.
This seemed like a reasonable gamble at £40m that was touted at the start of the transfer window. The numbers we're hearing now are just too silly and make the transfer not really worth it.
This in the Daily Record - if we want them, let's just say yes and get on with it:
Manchester United have been asked to pay combined transfer fees of £106m to sign Argentina defender Lisandro Martinez, 24, and Brazil winger Antony, 22
Manchester United have been asked to pay combined transfer fees of £106m to sign Argentina defender Lisandro Martinez, 24, and Brazil winger Antony, 22
Lallana. Have you ever seen Antony play? Sure he needs to improve himself. He is 22. The sky is the limit for him though. Ten Hag knows this and that's why he wants him.
125m Euros is £105m. 50m for Martinez and 55m for Antony.
24 and 22, that’s doesn’t add up to £106million. What’s going on?!? white text
We’re an utter joke in the transfer market and the world knows it. The best bit of business we could do this summer is replace our outdated Essienesque calculators, to send a message out that we won’t be fooled anymore.
It says that's what Ajax want, not what we're willing to pay. We've not even done anything wrong yet
I’m more worried that 22+24=£106000000It says that's what Ajax want, not what we're willing to pay. We've not even done anything wrong yet
£106m, £43m for Martinez and £63m for Antony.
Oh I didn’t see the white text in the original post, I now feel very daft
The Antony fee is steep.
To be fair, if the total figure for both players fall within what we are willing to pay, surely the split is irrelevant? If it’s £106m who cares what the split is or does that mean that particular player that costs more would command a higher weekly wage?
Get Antony's fee down to £45-50m up front with £10m add-ons and it becomes realistic.
£50m guaranteed, £5m for finishing in EPL team of the season, £8m for winning the league.
No but I think Antony really shouldn't cost that much and the club are trying to get him for less than that too.
Yes, I think we would get him for less
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