How have they gone back on their word? He signed a 5 year contract with no release clause, there's just a presumption here that he would be able to move on to another club when he decided. They're perfectly entitled to keep the player, who will help them win things, or to absolute rinse United for leaving it so late in the window when they've already lost a sizeable chunk of their first team.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Agreed , I think it would do more damage to their football club in the long run to compromise on this deal.
Not publicly humiliated at all. Only a section of our fans see it that way. And they are the vast minority.
Bu that's the problem - apparently there were made well aware of Antony wanting to leave the club since February and that offers would come in for the next transfer window and they are jerking both us and Antony around. They lied to him and us that they don't have "time to replace the player", truth is they never wanted to sell Antony in the first place and Antony just called them out on it as a last ditch effort. It's their own fault for dragging this in this manner. We've been more than generous with our offers.
Without a doubt. Just look how quickly this interview with Antony's come out: almost as soon as news broke that Ajax have rejected our bid. I'd say his agents had this all planned in case things didn't go to plan: whom to speak to, what to say, etc.
Agreed, Ajax aren't doing anything wrong here. He's their player and he signed the contract.
Listen to the interview
Now any young player will think 1000 times before they sign with them. They made themselves look like Dortmund and now players will want release clauses in their contracts when moving to Ajax just like Haaland.
Obvious difference between Ronaldo and Antony is there is no offer for Ronaldo.
Well no I'm not
I like that the lad wants to come but he's being well paid by a club that gave him his break in Europe
As Jose would say 'respect'
They aren't, but if they have an agreement that they ignore then they can get in the trash tier with Spurs as a springboard club
Right he desperately wants to come, ok I'm all in.
Sign the lad up and I'll pick him up from the airport with warm food.
Sign the lad up and I'll pick him up from the airport with warm food.
So what? They didn't want to sell then. And they don't want to sell tonight. The why doesn't matter.
Where is this idea of an agreement coming from? Because Antony told them he wants out? What if they also said no on February?
yet we reluctantly bowed to his wishes once we receive a huge world record fee. The 2 situations aren't that different.
The only difference is Ajax are refusing mega money because....?! they just think we will give them more and more.
I really hope we dip out on this one, pick up Ziyech on the cheap and use the funds elsewhere, Revisit next season.
Tony is a big talent, but he's not the finished article. 100 million euro for an Eredivisie player is just fecking nuts. He's not going anywhere for those prices this summer. Build something this season, with his Brasilian mates and go at it next season. If we lose him to Madrid or something next year, so be it. That fear shouldn't be worth overpaying by 50 million.
Tony is a big talent, but he's not the finished article. 100 million euro for an Eredivisie player is just fecking nuts. He's not going anywhere for those prices this summer. Build something this season, with his Brasilian mates and go at it next season. If we lose him to Madrid or something next year, so be it. That fear shouldn't be worth overpaying by 50 million.
Yeah, obviously you don't even want to let him go for 90m.
They should've included a fix release clause then. But you can't just sign a 5-year term and expect the club to cancel it whenever you feel like it.
If he get's a serious injury in his first season, they have to pay him for 4 more years and no one would expect him to decline the money.
It works both ways.
It's not really entitlement I think. Imo 80m is more than a fair price. We didn't keep Ronaldo against his will. Of course Ajax could do whatever they want but imo it's not really nice nor right to keep a player against his will when the offer is fair.
We’ll pony up what Ajax want because we’ve backed ourselves into a corner and have no other options.
On the flipside, the club would never agree to a 2 year deal with a player of his potential either. If that were the case then, he’d be moving on a free this summer. A 4-5 year deal gives the player the mid term security and at the same time also secured the club’s ROI given that the player performs well. I’m assuming they had an agreement in place while signing a 5 year deal which catered to both their plans.
Exactly.
But Antony wants to leave. It takes two to tango. You don't want to keep an unhappy player in your squad, especially when such a good offer has been presented to you.
Ajax, like many clubs, makes most of it's best deal by selling academy products and sub-€10m players for 20-45m. In today's market you don't need to have extreme talents to extract such fees from the market.
When they get their €90-100m I'm sure the financial director will be crying all the way to the bank.
Do you mean the market in general? Because I've heard that prediction so many times before. Even at the start of Covid, and the market barely noticed.
Sometime I wonder if this is redcafe or orangecafe 
All clubs have kept wantaway players and it has worked out.
Do we have an “Ajax goes into meltdown” quotes
Ajax has made themselves look stupid being so greedy.
Future youngsters will think twice about going if they don't sell him.
Future youngsters will think twice about going if they don't sell him.
No that's not gonna happen.
This is exactly how I feel about it. United fans were queuing up to commend Ajax for being a classy club during past windows but they're throwing their toys out of the pram right now.
Ajax have sold a shit ton of key players this summer and clearly don't need the money. They're not desperate and, as usual, we are. If you're going to aim your anger at anyone, aim it at the suits who've left it this late ( yet again) to conclude important business.
But it's entirely their decision they're entitled to take. Like PSG turning down 160m or similar for Mbappe in the final year of his contract. If they feel they would rather keep Antony than pocket 90m, and if they didn't promise him to accept a specific offer of course, how are they in the wrong?
Antony really wants United
It’s great to see. Worth every penny
Now do a transfer request
It’s great to see. Worth every penny
Now do a transfer request
Worried we’ll end up with nowt.
Not sure if we bid but we definitely had made our interest known and inquired. There was a piece from someone back in June that had Antony wanting to come to us, so it's been known. They seem to have kept raising the price when we did inquire. It's why he kicked up a fuss last week and refused to train or play because Ajax keeps playing games. Now we've finally put in an official bid we thought would do it and they said no so it's up to Antony to force it, who is now revealing Ajax are bit of cnuts knowing he was looking to move to the next level of his career back in Feb.
Nonsense, they are an amazing club for a young player to join.
I can see which of you would make horrendous bosses..
To some people your word is everything. It was a two year project according to Antony and he told them in February he would now like to leave.
United honoured their word to Ronaldo and let him go to Madrid.
To some people your word is everything. It was a two year project according to Antony and he told them in February he would now like to leave.
United honoured their word to Ronaldo and let him go to Madrid.
so ajax has known since February of his intent and reinforced that at the beginning of the summer that he wanted to leave and wouldn't sign any sort of extension.....Ajax trying to play hard ball to get as much out of the deal as possible so they've screwed over the player fully knowing his intentions. That's just not fair business to the player who's done his job over the years and gave them PLENTY of time to work out a transfer plan for his replacement.
We will see. I think they are just smart, they know we will come back, we are absolutely desperate for new signings. My guess is €100m in the next 3-4 days.
They aren’t obliged. However, the reason players like Martinez and Antony go to Ajax is for a route into Europe - develop in a semi-decent league, win trophies, play CL and then move on after showcasing themselves. That’s the dream that’s sold. Ajax get great young talent, win things and make hundreds of millions. You start forcing players who have now outgrown that league to stay hindering their development and turning down record fees then if I’m an agent I’m thinking twice before sending anyone to Ajax.
It's not cancel mate. We'll pay them 80m for Antony it's not free. And sure it works both ways. That's why we have contracts to protect interests from both sides.
They had plenty of forewarning from the looks of it
That Twitter account was smirking away when it got announced that our €90M offer was rejected.
I wonder where that smirk has disappeared to now?
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