bosnian_red
Worst scout to ever exist
Yes feck em up Antony, start hurting their reputation if they don't want to let you go
Where is this idea of an agreement coming from? Because Antony told them he wants out? What if they also said no on February?
You ever worked? Ever had someone dump work on you just before clocking off? Ever have someone break a promise to you?How have they gone back on their word? He signed a 5 year contract with no release clause, there's just a presumption here that he would be able to move on to another club when he decided. They're perfectly entitled to keep the player, who will help them win things, or to absolute rinse United for leaving it so late in the window when they've already lost a sizeable chunk of their first team.
yet we reluctantly bowed to his wishes once we receive a huge world record fee. The 2 situations aren't that different.
The only difference is Ajax are refusing mega money because....?! they just think we will give them more and more.
Ajax, like many clubs, makes most of it's best deal by selling academy products and sub-€10m players for 20-45m. In today's market you don't need to have extreme talents to extract such fees from the market.
When they get their €90-100m I'm sure the financial director will be crying all the way to the bank.
Do you mean the market in general? Because I've heard that prediction so many times before. Even at the start of Covid, and the market barely noticed.
That was his idea, that doesn't mean he had an agreement with AjaxI can see which of you would make horrendous bosses..
To some people your word is everything. It was a two year project according to Antony and he told them in February he would now like to leave.
United honoured their word to Ronaldo and let him go to Madrid.
Name them. We were forced to sell Ronaldo (when he was the best player in the world) when he pulled that stunt in the media and he only agreed for 1 more season out of respect for Fergie.All clubs have kept wantaway players and it has worked out.
Nobody is saying they are not entitled to it, it's just stupid. And the problem here is that Ajax lied about wanting to sell Antony in the first place. So in short - they jerked both us and Antony around for months. PSG never pretended they wanted to sell Mbappe, they were adamant since the beginning he was not for sale.But it's entirely their decision they're entitled to take. Like PSG turning down 160m or similar for Mbappe in the final year of his contract. If they feel they would rather keep Antony than pocket 90m, and if they didn't promise him to accept a specific offer of course, how are they in the wrong?
Pretty much how I see it.This is exactly how I feel about it. United fans were queuing up to commend Ajax for being a classy club during past windows but they're throwing their toys out of the pram right now.
Ajax have sold a shit ton of key players this summer and clearly don't need the money. They're not desperate and, as usual, we are. If you're going to aim your anger at anyone, aim it at the suits who've left it this late ( yet again) to conclude important business.
Yeah I know where you're coming from, it's how it usually works with talents.On the flipside, the club would never agree to a 2 year deal with a player of his potential either. If that were the case then, he’d be moving on a free this summer. A 4-5 year deal gives the player the mid term security and at the same time also secured the club’s ROI given that the player performs well. I’m assuming they had an agreement in place while signing a 5 year deal which catered to both their plans.
With the FDJ situation, we’re too far gone to fail on both of the managers primary targets; we will pay the extra to get this over the line, I’m certain of that much.Worried we’ll end up with nowt.
Not enough people have a feck Ajax mentality in here.
Barca want to sell, Ajax don’t. Unless all parties are willing there is no greater chance of Antony joining than there is of FDJ joining. Sorry!Keep it in your silly thread. Yeah let's ditch a guy who's been busting a gut to join United to chase a guy who has no desire to join United. Great!
I can see which of you would make horrendous bosses..
To some people your word is everything. It was a two year project according to Antony and he told them in February he would now like to leave.
United honoured their word to Ronaldo and let him go to Madrid.
Far too many people just think players are commodities and assets. Apparently because at 20 he signed a 5 year deal he should stay in Holland until he’s 25 despite being offered millions in a better league where he’ll improve as a footballer.Not enough people have a feck Ajax mentality in here.
They aren’t obliged. However, the reason players like Martinez and Antony go to Ajax is for a route into Europe - develop in a semi-decent league, win trophies, play CL and then move on after showcasing themselves. That’s the dream that’s sold. Ajax get great young talent, win things and make hundreds of millions. You start forcing players who have now outgrown that league to stay hindering their development and turning down record fees then if I’m an agent I’m thinking twice before sending anyone to Ajax.
I really hope we dip out on this one, pick up Ziyech on the cheap and use the funds elsewhere, Revisit next season.
Run for cover, mateBarca want to sell, Ajax don’t. Unless all parties are willing there is no greater chance of Antony joining than there is of FDJ joining. Sorry!
With the FDJ situation, we’re too far gone to fail on both of the managers primary targets; we will pay the extra to get this over the line, I’m certain of that much.
Worried we’ll end up with nowt.
Agreed.
Ajax don't come out of this looking bad at all, they are negotiating from a position of strength and IF the transfer happens it will be on their terms (Not Antony's or Uniteds).
The irony in this deal is, even when we get Antony is shows a level of incompetence that is beyond comprehension. This surely pushes the narrative that we all want. Glazers out. They can't do right for doing wrong.This deal has to be done, looking from the board's perspective, as failing to bring in two top targets would look very weak in support of the new manager.
Oh I agree they’re really pushing their luck. They’ll never see this much for him again. No doubt that wanker of a manager they’ve got is behind this after publicly going all in on him staying. I know it’s completely irrational but I’ve developed a serious dislike for that guy.
Antony really wants United
It’s great to see. Worth every penny
Now do a transfer request
I was deadly serious. We need FDJ more than we need Antony.Don't act like you weren't being serious
Stick to playing make believe in the FDJ thread.
Name them. We were forced to sell Ronaldo (when he was the best player in the world) when he pulled that stunt in the media and he only agreed for 1 more season out of respect for Fergie.
Respect for what? They're clearly not respecting him or his wishes.Well no I'm not
I like that the lad wants to come but he's being well paid by a club that gave him his break in Europe
As Jose would say 'respect'