Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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How's the clubs confidence now? That's all the media been yapping about the past four days...
 
I get Ajax not wanting to sell, and maybe they're having difficulty getting the replacement in, but turning that down is crazy.
 
Getting a bad feeling about this.They seem adamant that he’s not for sale.

Should have been the first player we signed back in June. They would have taken €75m easily. Shite planning as per.
 
Another one bites the dust. Memphis and/or Gakpo it is then.

feck Ajax - although they are probably comparable to United when Ronaldo wanted to join Madrid in '08.
 
"An aged player"? Dude is in his 20s.
Zero resale value for them; he’s 30 this season. ‘In his 20’s’ for half a year and a bit. Absolutely not the Ajax model
Too much Football Manager makes people look at players in their late 20's as over the hill. Ridiculous really.
Yeah, that’s exactly it. <Insert smiley of choice here>
 
Ajax of course have every right to insist Antony stays at the club. What I'm unclear on at the moment is why they've continually raised the price if the intent to sell was seemingly never there?

Only last week the line was that we weren't meeting their valuation, now it's that he's not for sale at any price. I think Antony would have a right to be frustrated in this situation to be fair.
 
They are confident of reaching an agreement and it’s like this … so what would happen if they were not confident :lol:
 
I'm convinced he'll come now with the next bid. The next bid will be their transfer record. I don't know if they have any other players in their squad who have the potential to go for this kind of money in the future. The way I see it is that they realise this player is highly talented and they're aiming to get their money's worth. They might not get the opportunity for a number of years to cash in on a player like this. I can't see them turning down a club record bid next.

We might have to wait until Monday or Tuesday to hear more. But, we're serious about him if we're making bids like that.
 
I'm not usually a "let's walk away" guy, but....
 
:drool:

Genuinely convinced that people complaining about the price will be proven wrong. More excited by this than I was about the Sancho transfer tbh.

Edit: rejected?! Feck me :lol:

Genuine question, why? Absolutely nothing suggests he is even at Sancho’s level. We’re paying far to much for this kid who hasn’t even hit Memphis numbers in this league.
 
we lose the additional "massive amount" margin on Antony if we immediately have to turn around and pay 20m over the market price on ziyech ourselves.
And not only that, but after agents, Sao Paulo percentage, etc. Ajax will only be left with like 60% of the fee anyway, so it would be like a trade of Ziyech for Antony + €10-15m profit. But then you have added an ageing player, with little resale value and a massive salary to the squad. The difference in salary between a Ziyech and Antony for this season will easily be in the 3-5+ million range, let alone any signing bonuses.
Plus we just signed Conceicao this summer with an eye of taking Antony's place next summer. That plan goes in the bin if we sign Ziyech on a permanent as well.

Any scenario other than Ziyech at a reasonable price (€20-25m) (or ideally even a 1-year loan) just means Ajax immediately lose any benefits of the premium in the United offer, so then why take it?
Then take a lower amount next season instead, they're the alternatives and still have the same problem.

I find it hard to believe the much touted amazing recruitment Ajax do in the market generally there isn't an Antony replacement lined up for down the line anyway. Ziyech is only 29, Tadic played well into his 30's at Ajax and was largely average at Southampton.
 
It’s the World Cup in a few months Antony will have to knuckle down when the window closes.

Ajax have us by the balls.
 
United need to learn when to walk away. €90m is already ridiculous.
 
Ajax of course have every right to insist Antony stays at the club. What I'm unclear on at the moment is why they've continually raised the price if the intent to sell was seemingly never there?

Only last week the line was that we weren't meeting their valuation, now it's that he's not for sale at any price. I think Antony would have a right to be frustrated in this situation to be fair.
It's because it's getting to be late in the window so it will be hard(er) for them to get a replacement in. Especially after their negotiations with Chelsea for Ziyech weren't very successful. But yeah I get why Antony'd be frustrated. 90m for him is a lot. Too much even I'd say. So for Ajax to turn down an amount that big must be disappointing for him.
 
That's just not true. Haven't Sancho, Maguire saga teached us anything? United is that stupid, we will come back next season with bigger offer.

They don't even play in same position. You ain't even talking sense, mate

By that logic, why don't United buy Ziyech for 44m? He's EPL proven right? feck that, We all know Chelsea is taking the piss. No club is stupid enough to pay more than 25m for 30 year olds Ziyech, even United.
We paid less for Sancho the second time but more for Maguire because we'd already agreed £50m the season prior then pulled out last minute because Jose didn't like it, and Leicester were tired of being messed about. Antony will 100% cost less next summer than he will this summer, for a start he's refusing to train or play at the moment, how will that affect the team and him during the season?
 
It’s the World Cup in a few months Antony will have to knuckle down when the window closes.

Ajax have us by the balls.

Well, they have Antony by the balls, Utd can just walk away. Antony gets stuck dealing with the situation.
 
I fully expect that Antony will begin discussions to terminate his contract at Ajax or threaten to burn down their stadium. I would if it was that serious. You don't turn down that amount for a player no one else is bidding for and certainly wants to leave. I suspect they are doing this to punish the lad for being sort of disrespectful to Ajax with his open flirtations.
 
For the laugh (I'm keeping this weird typo) of God, don't bid even more than 90. The cnut isn't that fecking good. He scored 15 league goals in 2 seasons of Eredivisie. Even Vincent Janssen would laugh at that.
 
I'm seriously starting to dislike Ajax. Trying to rinse us on every deal... feck off.
 
I’d image more players to demand release clauses when joining in the future. Maybe will cost them more in the long term.
 
For the laugh (I'm keeping this weird typo) of God, don't bid even more than 90. The cnut isn't that fecking good. He scored 15 league goals in 2 seasons of Eredivisie. Even Vincent Janssen would laugh at that.
Even 90m is completely bonkers, but it seems we're absolutely determined to bring him in
 
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