Antony is on avg 3.4 shot per game last season, Richarlison is on 2.4 shot per game. So that’s one way of looking at it.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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No one tell him!Too bad he’s gone to Marseille then
No point cribbing about the price anymore. Yes, possibly we are overpaying by 30 million euros but it is what it is and looks like he's gonna be our player, so let's get behind the player and hope it takes us place.
Having said that, we will have some pretty cool options at no. 10 and out wide. Along with a coach who knows what he's doing, it should make for very intresting viewing
Having said that, we will have some pretty cool options at no. 10 and out wide. Along with a coach who knows what he's doing, it should make for very intresting viewing
Now you are just acting like a complete drama queen here, picking on one minor inconsistency in age comparison (2 yr apart instead of 1 year apart) and keep overemphasising on that to build up your own little shelter to hide away from all other facts going against your claim, and then totally ignoring the rest of all other bigger arguments at the same time. Quite pathetic choice of yours really.
You can't assume inflation as barometer. Demand, popularity of the league has increased many bounds. And then there is supply demand gap of talent.
For example, EPL broadcast deal in 2008 was about £500m/year, same today is almost £3b/year world wide.
Having said that I too think this deal is bit expensive but that is not how you measure.
And by the way if the club can afford it then go bonkers.
Why do you think Anthony is the only good wide forward in Europe? Not sure about half the price but mousa diaby looks promising and would be available for a significantly lower fee.
Ultimately we should have a competent dof with an understanding of the markets across Europe overseeing our receruitment, with the managers input. As opposed to our manager with just an understanding of the Dutch market making all the decisions
For this amount of money for him, I expect at least 15 goals and 15 assists this season.
It isn't.
Be realistic.
It's funny (well not funny, but go with me) that we as fans all like the fact that he's desperate to come to us, and find it really endearing/a positive character trait. (I include myself in this)
But... if he was to do the same thing in 3 years time when Madrid come calling...
Almost like football fans are fickle!
But... if he was to do the same thing in 3 years time when Madrid come calling...
Almost like football fans are fickle!
Why is that not realistic? Maybe about 5 too many, but I'd say we need 25 goals+assists from him
What would you rate him as 1-100? On this forum, he is everything from lightening quick to slow. Hard to tell.
Completely different!
Coming to Manchester can only mean that he is dedicated to football and the club. Madrid would be the city, lifestyle and weather. No two ways about it!
There is also the balance issue highlighted by ETH. Pool have Salah, Arsenal have Saka, City have Mahrez or Bernardo etc. same can be said for other top sides. There are times when a left footed inverted forward allows you to bring the same type of threat from both wings. We were only really getting a taste of that when Greenwood imploded.
In that regard, available, left footed attackers (Diaby being one) are not that easy to come by. Dembele would have been more expensive overall.
The price is shocking but we should be more alarmed that we are once again pushing deadline day on the most obvious of signings that could have been completed for less much much earlier.
I think because there seems to be a lot of targets (ahem, FdJ) who don't want to go near us this summer because of the lack of CL and our mess makes the idea that Antony is desperate to come here a more alluring prospect, especially as we dicked around about him all summer. But yeah, not sure it's an endearing character trait. Martinez was desperate to come too but didn't throw his toys out the pram quite like this.
Double edged sword I guess, if he's desperate to play here and cocky enough to go all out to get here then you'd hope that means he will hit the ground running, let's see.
Have you told him mate or do you want me to whatsapp him?
Ha! That's a solid argument!!
He's going to get us loads of free kicks in wide areas. We've got decent delivery from Eriksen now. Hopefully we can be a threat from set pieces this season.
Because he's a young player coming into a new league. He's never even produced those numbers in Holland. If Sancho and Rashford find form, it will be challenging enough for him to get into the team. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll get plenty of minutes, but 15 goals and 15 assists is a bit ridiculous.
And the chances of scoring from set plays only increases with Harry Maguire not on the pitch!
Is Greenwood still officially number 11 or is that number vacant this season?
He's still 11. He's listed on the website still too. But you can't buy shirts with his name on or anything..
He's not tall enough to head them in at the back post.
Do. Not. Want.
Am I doing it right?
Do. Not. Want.
Am I doing it right?
Can't we just wait for the club to sign him up, wait for his performances and then debate whether he is a good signing?
Nah, we have to declare him a waste of money before he's kicked a ball for us
His stats don't warrant the same kind of status obviously. Based on stats there have been others with better stats However there's more than just stats. His impact and technical abilities is undenyable. Compared to for example Suarez, he's also been here for a shorter time. Suarez played 4.5 years in the Dutch league, Antony only two. I don't see Antony ever reaching the stats of Suarez as he simply is not the same goal threat. Nevertheless I'm pretty sure his stats will improve over the years. His shooting ability, decision making, crossing and other skills provide him with all the requirements to be able to improve on his numbers.Edwin, is that you? We are buying him, no need to raise his stocks anymore.
Kidding aside, really? He is rated that high or you are joking?
For me he clearly is the best attacker to play in the Dutch league since Suarez. At least in terms of potential / ceiling. His skillset is simply much more complete than players like Depay or Bergwijn for example. Of course not evefy talent reaches its full potential and in the end Antony will need to learn to deal with the higher intensity, physicality and he has to improve his numbers as well. As said, I believe he has the tools to be succesfull and be one of the best wingers in the world in the next 10 years.
the football market has inflated at least 100% since 2008
at the very very least I would say
Man City bought David Silva for 30 million in 2010
Anthony Gordon is likely going to cost double that. And Silva was obviously a way more valuable player when city bought him.
if we absolutely rinse Madrid on the price of him (just like Ajax are doing to us) I don’t think many here will complain.
Get 3-4 good years out of him……
Roughly speaking, the same height as Lisandro Martínez; 174cm or so.
Other forwards in that range: Neymar, Salah, Mané, Hazard and Vinícius.
Stick him at CB!
We are in 6th way above Portugal. This is old.
This could be like when we missed out on Ronaldinho and he went to Barcelona after we were linked with him in the media for ages. This time we're pushing through, very likely overpaying for a young Brazilian star with the trademark samba flair and skills. ETH clearly loves him so much that we signed the left back he had most problems against so Anthony wont have to play against him again. And to be honest when signing this type of player usually one of the big problems is the relationship between the manager and the player. A lot of the time they come to the premier league with the skills, but the manager doesnt like them because of work ethic etc. Well ETH knows him and wants us to pay big for him. So that cannot be the problem if we do sign him.
He just concluded the Antony deal, now he's off to Barcelona...
True story
The male asks for Antony twice and no response, a lady shouts "De Jong" and he turns and nods.... To the FDJ thread!
Such an exciting signing . Sancho and Antony are on paper two future world class creators. Hopefully our improvements will also help us get the best cheap young players like Sesko or Camavinga when they come up again.
Imagine the Ajax' board seeing that video and then continuing to play hardball.
Murtough and Arnold are complete clowns.
Corrected for you.
@Skills you can’t keep having this pointed out to you and not address it and instead carry on with numbers and only numbers mattering.
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