In fairness you can’t just say “get someone better for less money”. It’s meaningless.
“get a whole team of world beaters for £50m - isn’t that the scouts’ job? If not, what are we paying them for?”
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“get a whole team of world beaters for £50m - isn’t that the scouts’ job? If not, what are we paying them for?”
I refuse to believe there are no comparable players in Europe (never mind globally) that wouldn't cost 100m.
I know I know, ETH worked with him before, but this lack of flexibility might cost him at some point
Yep! I pop in here most mornings, having my coffee, and its the same posts over and over. I had to double check did I refresh the page from the previous day! Yes we get it, the fee is quite high. Get over it.
We need top players that the manager likes, not the cheap, poorer version. So which RW has as much talent as Antony and would move for half the price?
This is a bit unnecessary
Who said or assumed that exactly?
I’d much rather pay the money for Antony than bloody Richarlison - we already know he is average.
Kulusevski is a great deal though.
We need to get this done AND FDJ.
You don’t even sound half convincing at all and you know that.
Comparing them at same age is rather meaningless here. Liverpool isn’t paying 37.5m (+12.5m add on) for 22 year old version of Diaz, they are paying for a far more established version of Diaz who just scored 14 goals in 18 league games for Porto, and who also has very high dribbling stats and average rating too.
As of this moment, Antony is nothing like that. His stats in Dutch league is underwhelming. He has nothing to justify for that amount of money at all. We are purely buying a player for his potential/talent alone. No one ever pay that amount of money for an attacker with similar stats/standing as Antony before. We are probably the first.
Just realized he is fast as feck, a good dribbler and a brilliant prospect on FIFA. Sign him up!!
Plenty of posters in the match day thread and performances thread.
Anyone from Brazil in this thread? What's the view on him in Brazil? New Neymar? A random bloke with big ego?
How has he performed in the national team?
How has he performed in the national team?
It is not meaningless. Manager wants right winger with specific traits. He goes to DoF with request, Dof goes to head scout and give orders. Head scout gives orders to his scouts; "give me a list of right wingers with these traits".
That is how things work in most of clubs.
We, as a club, simply have wrong understanding what backing a manager means.
Sure, i am all for giving a manager certain player for who he thinks that is cruical for his style. But, in general, manager should not be the one who gives a list with names to Dof. DoF is the one who should give a list to manager (based on manager's wishes of course) and give manager right to choose from that list.
Having said that; ok, this summer i can understand why we are doing it like this but in future i expect that Dof and manager work as a team. Not DoF being manager's "go and get him, him and him" guy. In a long run, that just is not good.
We do it in FM style. Where a manager, Dof, agent and head scout is the same person.
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I woudlnt count match day thread, lot of things are written in the heat of the moment.
I have to agree with this. Antony is not pulling up trees in Holland. The least you'd expect for this kind of money is for the player to be pulling up trees in Holland.
Antony has to play and work like he's never done before to be a success in the Premier League and go anywhere near to justify his price tag. This is Ronaldo/Bale type money for a 22 year old.
This is on Ten Hag. If he pulls it off and Antony grows into a player to justify the transfer fee then all credit to them both. If he doesn't it will fall on Ten Hag as the club actually backed him with atleast ONE first choice target.
We all know Casemiro and Martinez were not first choice targets. It could be argued that Eriksen or Malacia were.
One way or another, at least this won't turn into another saga.
If Real were buying Ronaldo off us with 2022 fees he'd be about £200-250m, it's incomparable.
I saw this yesterday. I think FIFA overrated his speed.
What metrics are you using?
Oh it’s an inflated price for sure. I think most agree it is and a lot of the reasons why it is have been mentioned in this thread.
Totally still think we should buy him though.
Nope.
80 million pounds adjusted for inflation in 2022 is around 105 million pounds. It is comparable.
Yeah at least more $$$ than the Neymar / Mbappe deals.
Different things inflate differently. Football market has gone nuts since '08.
This is not inflation on currencies. It’s football.
His TV is slower I think.
The clips of him playing football. In comparison to average players he's not flying past how a Mbappe/Traore/Henry.
I wouldn't even say he's near Sterling, Mane or Rashford.
I'd put him in a Sancho, Saka and Mahrez category.
So Rooney and Rio would only cost about £40m would they?Funny that a 33 year old Ronaldo cost Juve over £100m then isn't it?
Clubs pay in currencies not footballs.
I know nothing about Antony. We are crying out for a left footed, right sided attacker since Greenwood's mask slipped. Buying a player from the Dutch league for that price does seem obscene, nobody can dispute that. But luckily i couldn't care less and hope he comes, purely based on Youtube vids.
Don't want to derail the thread but Richarlison stats for last two seasons (in Premiership ) - 40 apps, 13 goals and 33 apps and 11 goals. Antony in last two seasons in Dutch league - 46 apps 11 goals and 35 apps 12 goals. I know that is only part of the story but if you think Richarlison is average then what do you think of Antony?
This is honestly one of the dumbest arguments and logic I've heard on here recently, and that's saying something.
It really isn't.
Even if so, the pound is 10% stronger than the EUR compared to 2008.
Nevermind. You clearly don’t understand
That's not even close to how any market works.
That is a good point - Antony has clearly been no 1 target all summer right? You could also argue about Casemiro, although Erik wanted De Jong, he understood after the first minutes in EPL what we NEED is a CDM to bring some balance to the team.
So you're telling me a deal from 2008 with added inflation would cost just 20 million more?
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