Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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same here. He will have the crowd off his seat every game.

The fee will soon be forgotten when he's skinning fullbacks for fun.
Yeah and he’s so fecking no-nonsense. He gets on with it. He’s not a softy like some of the players these days.
 
What tax would you place on a literal ready-made player for the football the manager wants to play?
He's far from ready-made, that's the problem. He's a work in progress player for a premium fee.

What fee would you walk away from this at? If Ajax come back and demand 100m do we keep going?
 
Ajax has the advantage in this whole situation. If Ajax refuses, Antony will be sad but he knows he can't play shite because he needs the world cup and wants to transfer the year after. Ajax does not really need the money (although it is a nice amount, but we have enough already) so for Ajax it's not really a big risk. So saying Ajax is under pressure to accept the bid is nonsense, that's why United is forced to overpay bigtime.
 
Knowing our luck, we'll sign him for a ridiculous fee. Completely lock ourselves out of the market for a RW for the next 3 years, and in that time a far bigger talent for a much smaller fee turns up

He is called conceicao ;)
 
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He looks like a good player in Boots of Phytagoras video but I dont think he is worth 200m.
 
Not gonna lie, haven't hoped a deal fell apart more since Maguire. The inability to find alternatives all window is quite worrying.
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Yeah let’s go find an alternative who’s bang average for £30m and get super excited about it.
 
Funny, lots of complainers in here about what the glazers are willing to spend. Haven’t heard any great alternatives from these peoples about who would be ready to fit right in and would come at a better price. It’s almost as if these complainers don’t want us to shell out the money necessary to get a player the manager wants so they can keep complaining that the club doesn’t back the manager. Shall we just keep the money in the pockets of the Glazers then? No doubt transfer fees are a joke in the modern game but we can’t really control that. Just back the manager with the players he wants and if he fails then so be it. It’s not like anyone in here is taking out a second mortgage to fund this transfer
 
Admittedly, Barca might not have been the best example. :lol:

There is a pattern though.. clubs that are run poorly get fleeced.

How often do City, Bayern, Pool get fleeced?

They just walk away from the deal if it doesn't suit them. We become more desperate for the deal and pay more than the original price.
 
There is a pattern though.. clubs that are run poorly get fleeced.

How often do City, Bayern, Pool get fleeced?

They just walk away from the deal if it doesn't suit them. We become more desperate for the deal and pay more than the original price.

Grealish for 100 mil
 
There is a pattern though.. clubs that are run poorly get fleeced.

How often do City, Bayern, Pool get fleeced?

They just walk away from the deal if it doesn't suit them. We become more desperate for the deal and pay more than the original price.

That's true, usually it's also clubs who get their big deals out of the way early in the transfer window.
 
He's far from ready-made, that's the problem. He's a work in progress player for a premium fee.

What fee would you walk away from this at? If Ajax come back and demand 100m do we keep going?
I didn’t say finished article; I meant a player who the manager doesn’t even have to teach his methods to as he is assimilated already. That’s months of coaching reduced to purely working on improving the player.

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do so late in the window, but I blame the club for that and accept we’ve snookered ourselves into a penalty tax situation no matter who we go after, so why not have it be who the manager asked for at the start of summer?
 
There is a pattern though.. clubs that are run poorly get fleeced.

How often do City, Bayern, Pool get fleeced?

They just walk away from the deal if it doesn't suit them. We become more desperate for the deal and pay more than the original price.

City - Jack Grealish - £100m, Nathan Ake - £40m, Mangala - £40m
Bayern - Lucas Hernandez - £72m
Liverpool - Andy Carroll £35, Benteke - £40m, Nunez (remains to be seen, but its a lot on one good season) £67.5m

Its far less than us, but it does happen. I think only really City have had it happen more recently with Grealish and Ake.
 
Not gonna lie, haven't hoped a deal fell apart more since Maguire. The inability to find alternatives all window is quite worrying.

This is crazy talk.

I haven't been this excited for a signing in a long time.

Antony has Ballon D'or potential. He has all this ability that he is yet to harness. When Ronaldo first joined united he had all these tricks and flicks and only when he harnessed it all did he truly become a machine. Hoping the same for Antony.
 
Not gonna lie, haven't hoped a deal fell apart more since Maguire. The inability to find alternatives all window is quite worrying.
Why would you want to find an alternative to the manager's number 1 target? Let's stop repeating the same mistakes.
 
Here's the deal they valued and we paid 39 million for DVB and so far we have had a return of about £4.50. So here is DVB back and £65 million take it or leave it.
 
City - Jack Grealish - £100m, Nathan Ake - £40m, Mangala - £40m
Bayern - Lucas Hernandez - £72m
Liverpool - Andy Carroll £35, Benteke - £40m, Nunez (remains to be seen, but its a lot on one good season) £67.5m

Its far less than us, but it does happen. I think only really City have had it happen more recently with Grealish and Ake.

There are big differences in this.

1. Manutd getting fleeced on 70% transfers whilst needing 4/5 signings

2. City only signed Grealish last year, they didn't have to spend it, they just did it for fun.

Obviously Carroll and Benteke was prior to their new set up, even Nunez, signing a player you need to complete your team is different from building the team.

Example. City didnt need to sign other players, we still need 4/5 players, this is the case every year. Every year we need 4/5 signings, every year its a rebuild.
 
This is crazy talk.

I haven't been this excited for a signing in a long time.

Antony has Ballon D'or potential. He has all this ability that he is yet to harness. When Ronaldo first joined united he had all these tricks and flicks and only when he harnessed it all did he truly become a machine. Hoping the same for Antony.

Antony won't come anywhere near Ronaldo. Let's hope he outperforms Quaresma.
 
There is a pattern though.. clubs that are run poorly get fleeced.

How often do City, Bayern, Pool get fleeced?

They just walk away from the deal if it doesn't suit them. We become more desperate for the deal and pay more than the original price.
Last summer and this summer. Bayern don’t get fleeced because they only seem to buy from their own league, and/or if they have a year left.
 
There are big differences in this.

1. Manutd getting fleeced on 70% transfers whilst needing 4/5 signings

2. City only signed Grealish last year, they didn't have to spend it, they just did it for fun.

Obviously Carroll and Benteke was prior to their new set up, even Nunez, signing a player you need to complete your team is different from building the team.

Example. City didnt need to sign other players, we still need 4/5 players, this is the case every year. Every year we need 4/5 signings, every year its a rebuild.
Liverpool have the 2nd oldest squad in the league and if you go by what their fans are saying, they need to start replacing a lot of players which are getting on in years or very injury prone. Yet they still signed Nunez and failed to sign a midfielder which they really need.
 
Antony won't come anywhere near Ronaldo. Let's hope he outperforms Quaresma.
He could get close to 06/07 Ronaldo which was my favourite Ronaldo to watch. Tricks coupled with end product before he just turned into end product without the tricks.
 
I didn’t say finished article; I meant a player who the manager doesn’t even have to teach his methods to as he is assimilated already. That’s months of coaching reduced to purely working on improving the player.

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do so late in the window, but I blame the club for that and accept we’ve snookered ourselves into a penalty tax situation no matter who we go after, so why not have it be who the manager asked for at the start of summer?

Yeah, we have made mistakes especially with the timing of the deals. At this point it's all damage limitation. We need players, especially left footed right winger so we have to take the hit and get the player.
 
Last summer and this summer. Bayern don’t get fleeced because they only seem to buy from their own league, and/or if they have a year left.

De Ligt, Mane, Gravenbach all from Bundesliga?

They still manage to sign the players at good wages and prices, in comparison to us.
 
I am excited to see how he does with you. Perhaps I'll dislike him less after a while. Same is happening with Martinez who's shithousery filled me with joy monday.

Still, 96 million for an Eredivisie player with stats that are merely okay. I dunno. He could be a massive succes and the new Neymar or he might be Kerlon.
 
Liverpool have the 2nd oldest squad in the league and if you go by what their fans are saying, they need to start replacing a lot of players which are getting on in years or very injury prone. Yet they still signed Nunez and failed to sign a midfielder which they really need.

That does not mean they will get fleeced. lets see when they come to signing midfielders.
 
He could get close to 06/07 Ronaldo which was my favourite Ronaldo to watch. Tricks coupled with end product before he just turned into end product without the tricks.

I would be excited if he ever becomes half as good as early Ronaldo. I just don't see it.
 
This is crazy talk.

I haven't been this excited for a signing in a long time.

Antony has Ballon D'or potential. He has all this ability that he is yet to harness. When Ronaldo first joined united he had all these tricks and flicks and only when he harnessed it all did he truly become a machine. Hoping the same for Antony.

I'm excited as feck too too. He's the perfect profile of player to join our attack and balance things out as a left footer. He's 22 and coming off the back of two solid seasons in a lesser league and ready to make the step up.

There's a shortage of left footed right wingers about and we have a potentially world class one desperate to join us, having already worked under our manager.

What more could you want really?
 
Last summer and this summer. Bayern don’t get fleeced because they only seem to buy from their own league, and/or if they have a year left.
Bayern are very clever in the market. They generally look at players in the last year of their contract and can get them cheap (Mazaroui and Gravenberch e.g.)
 
Yeah and he’s so fecking no-nonsense. He gets on with it. He’s not a softy like some of the players these days.
Not to mention he genuinelly wants to come, he's going on strike to force the move ffs!

When did we last have somebody do that for us? I love it.
 
De Ligt, Mane, Gravenbach all from Bundesliga?

They still manage to sign the players at good wages and prices, in comparison to us.
No but from those examples they paid over the odds for De Ligt, and Mane and Gravenberch both had a year left. Doesn’t really aid your point.
 
Bayern are very clever in the market. They generally look at players in the last year of their contract and can get them cheap (Mazaroui and Gravenberch e.g.)
Yeah they’re definitely a well run club, it’s for sure deliberate. It’s a luxury you can only really afford when you’re on top though. We’re having to spend because of our situation.
 
People in this thread literally talking about Ballon d'Or potential for a bloke who scored 8 goals and 4 assists in the Eredivisie. Ah man, I genuinely hope this deal gets canceled. All the people I spoke to who follow the Dutch league closely think he's massively overrated and don't see any reason why a club like us should want him in the first place, let alone pay this amount of silly money.
 
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