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2022-23 Performances

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Orton said:
Firstly we missed him when he was out, now he’s back he’s useless one trick pony. Clearly he hasn’t been great but showed a few glimpses. Very raw player with potential but the complete over exaggeration in this thread and every other thread today is just silly. All of our players should be embarrassed after today however and they’ll be reminded of it for a very long time. It’s how they respond now.
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Very raw? What do you mean by that? Because that seems a bit weird way to label him. He looks like he's been playing football this weird way for years. I also still believe he has not improved since the beginning of the season.

El Jefe said:
Its a lot easier to look at him as a hardworking wide midfielder the way SAF used Smith, Fletcher or Hargreaves. He's got about the same attacking quality as they do.



The best thing going for him is that he's from Brazil so it makes people think he's a skillful and tricky attacker. He's as pointless of an offensive player you'll find in the top 6 or big teams across Europe.



The expectations for him are pretty much the same we had for Hargreaves on the right wing and even he could cross better.
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Such a ridiculous thing to say...

but I think you're right.
 
Irrational. said:
Do we have another United-Memphis/ Liverpool-Mane situation here with United-Antony/ Liverpool-Gakpo?

I sincerely hope not. I have full faith that he will come good though.
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If only I thought he would be as good as Memphis
 
Borys said:
Very raw? What do you mean by that? Because that seems a bit weird way to label him. He looks like he's been playing football this weird way for years. I also still believe he has not improved since the beginning of the season.
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He’s clearly capable of pulling off these spectacular moments based on some of his goals this season, but then he makes the most basic things look difficult. I don’t really know what to expect from him in the future. He may never improve and this is it but just remember how much people on here were clamouring for him to get back into the team a couple of weeks ago.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
It's crazy just how many of these mega money signings flop. Not just at United either although we've had plenty of course.

Barca have had 2/3 over 100m that haven't worked. Chelsea with Lukaku, Grealish hasn't been great either.

Stop spending stupid money on footballers.
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Most clubs know after a season whether you’re salvageable. We tend to keep players and hope they’ll come good.
I like the fight in him but I hate the fact he has no power in his legs. None that I’ve noticed yet to be honest.
 
Can’t cross, can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t outpace, can’t dribble, can’t use right foot, can’t assist, can’t score, can’t create - 90m

What a conman and our manager is the biggest culprit of signing him for such money.
 
Orton said:
Firstly we missed him when he was out, now he’s back he’s useless one trick pony. Clearly he hasn’t been great but showed a few glimpses. Very raw player with potential but the complete over exaggeration in this thread and every other thread today is just silly. All of our players should be embarrassed after today however and they’ll be reminded of it for a very long time. It’s how they respond now.
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What glimpses? The most we can extrapolate is that he'll score more goals with improvement in his cutting in to shoot weapon. He really brings nothing creatively.

On the other hand, I can completely understand why Ten Hag has him in the side. He helps out our midfield and defense control games. His workrate is pretty good for a winger/attacking midfielder, and he does stay wide for any outlet pass. Because Ten Hag didn't get that midfielder that can be the metronome to our passing, he has to find ways to make the midfield compete. He's done that by having hard workers off the ball in Weghorst, Bruno, Fred, and Antony. The added bonus is that Antony can dribble in the middle third to help bring the ball up, allowing us to get higher up the pitch as a team.

But eventually we will get that midfielder who is wonderful technically, can pass, and is constantly asking for the ball. When that happens, how will Antony help United win? His style of play will help United get more solid, but you cannot be this reliant on the other attackers when someone like Antony really does not trouble defenders apart from 1 move (cutting inside to shoot).

He can't cross
He won't run at defenders in the final third
He can't give a through ball
He won't play a 1-2 around the box with the intent to be dangerous. His short passing around the box (which he has the ability to do) are purely to retain possession or to pass off creative responsibility to another player because he couldn't get a shot off.
 
I'm also wondering what these glimpses are
 
Absolutely catastrophic from him today, shouldn't have started the second half.
 
Orton said:
Firstly we missed him when he was out, now he’s back he’s useless one trick pony. Clearly he hasn’t been great but showed a few glimpses. Very raw player with potential but the complete over exaggeration in this thread and every other thread today is just silly. All of our players should be embarrassed after today however and they’ll be reminded of it for a very long time. It’s how they respond now.
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My worry is with things in which he doesn't show even glimpses.
Did he managed to deliver one great cross whole season? How many times he dribbled past player in whole season? 6? 7? How many big chances he created this season?
On a positive side; his finishing is good. His pace is not bad as people claim (he is not pacey but he is not slow either). He is good in keeping the ball.

I don't know. He is a really strange winger.
I want him to be success but i don't think that he has that in him. But if ETH is happy with this kind of winger, fine with me.
 
Irrational. said:
Do we have another United-Memphis/ Liverpool-Mane situation here with United-Antony/ Liverpool-Gakpo?

I sincerely hope not. I have full faith that he will come good though.
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Lets not go overboard with Gakpo now. He had good game and next 5 he will be average again.
 
Irrational. said:
Do we have another United-Memphis/ Liverpool-Mane situation here with United-Antony/ Liverpool-Gakpo?

I sincerely hope not. I have full faith that he will come good though.
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Does have shades of Memphis here. Can see there’s talent but so wasteful with the end product.
 
I hope ETH will not be bias and play whoever contribute more to the team. Amad and Pellestri should be given their chance to start over Antony. Yes, Antony is left footed but he is a far away from Mehrez or Salah. Those 2 are at least 2-3 levels above Antony. If ETH continues his bias, I can see him ultimately sack by the club due to poor results.
 
Showboating, getting the crowd and the opposition players worked up about you and then you don't follow up?

Needs a good boot in the face treatment.
 
I really don't see it with him, as a full back you would probably quite happy to be playing against him as he's so one dimensional. To be honest it's not even that bad if you let him cut in as his long range shoots are normally easy saves for the keeper.

Saying that I didn't expect that performance today, didn't seem to put the effort in which is rare for him. Would say he won't start the next game but all your players could be dropped after today.
 
I can't fault him for his intensity and energy, but you wonder, at times, if he is looking for a fight on the field rather than playing football.
 
He doesn't care if he goes an entire season with 1 successful cross. That's the worst part about him.

Doesn't want to get hurt or bump shoulders, scared of anyone getting close to him with the ball. All he wants is to take the ball in 1v1s and get on his left foot and shoot. And if he's stopped from doing that he becomes less than worthless.
 
Borys said:
Forget the right foot, I am actually more concerned about the left foot seeing him today.

He literally looks like a player who spent 100% of his training time doing cut in and curling shot. Now even his crosses look like a shots (that's probably why we have not seen him crossing the ball ever before).

I feel for him, he should have never been brought here, never mind the fee. Completely out of his depth as a winger.
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It's not just his crossing, his passes are very poor in general. There's this time in the first half when Bruno played it over the top to Antony who is completely free on the LW. He has Rashford sprinting towards goal and all he needs to do is try to play it quickly just behind the two defenders who were not catching Rashford at that point.
Instead he dallies on the ball and then when he crosses/passes, he does it so meekly it's cut out by the first defender.

That basically surmises him unfortunately. He tracks back and has a good work rate, but as a winger he just is not showing anything that will make the fans feel the potential is there but just needs unlocking. Unfortunately he is showing nothing in his attacking arsenal.

Either he needs to up his attacking game nearly 100% or we will be left with a defensive winger on our hands who showboats unnecessarily when the game is in balance.
 
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Andycoleno9 said:
He is useful against parked bus where you need quick passes. But he is not a winger for counter attacks for sure. He kills nearly every counter with bad pass or wrong decision. Not to mention that he is afraid to go all the way. He runs down the line and when full back comes near he just stops.
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Yeh. Low footballing brain. I have more faith on Pellistri produces something on counter attack.
 
It’s kinda crazy thinking of a brazilian player who is afraid to take a man on and to be direct. The counter we had and he could take Van Dijk on he was instead trying a pass that never was on. He will never win us a penalty the way he plays.

All the talk of he is important on the right side he puts in a shif. He has good ball retention I agree but come on he’s neither a right back or a midfielder. We keep praising players for things that are not the main purpose for their positions.

As a winger you should take people on threaten to come short or go behind, you should dribble well and pull players torwards you and open space for other players. You should be able to capitalise when it happens with good incisive passes. You should progress the ball forward.

The price tag is not helping him either but I don’t see it with him to be honest he’s more of a freestyler/futsal player than a 11 a side player.
 
He's been under Ten Hag coaching for near 3 years now? In a way, i don't know if that's a worrying thing on Eric, Anthony or both parts. Surely Eric expects more or knows he is capable or its looking like an expensive misjudgment on his part. Anthony needs to step up or adapt etc.

I wouldn't mind seeing what he can/would do on the LW.
 
Just found out he created less chances (37) than Alexander Büttner (41) last season. Büttner left his club on free transfer and dropped down a tier. :lol:
 
cjg-888 said:
He's been under Ten Hag coaching for near 3 years now? In a way, i don't know if that's a worrying thing on Eric, Anthony or both parts. Surely Eric expects more or knows he is capable or its looking like an expensive misjudgment on his part. Anthony needs to step up or adapt etc.

I wouldn't mind seeing what he can/would do on the LW.
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That's what's concerning. How can someone who have watched him day in day out for 3 years have sanctioned this mental signing. It's crazy.
 
Plenty of people wanting to throw pelters at Liverpool for signing Gakpo but we've got this whopper as a regular starter. I just cant for the life of me see anything in him and certainly not 80 million+ worth.
 
He’s complete garbage. Anyone claiming otherwise is just kidding themselves.

Another £80 million down the drain. Add him to the pile with Lukaku, Maguire, Sancho et al. All big money signings with huge deficiencies in their game.
 
Anyone who follows the Eredivisie quite closely, including myself, could have told you this back in the summer window: this guy ain't good enough. The jaw dropping sum that we paid for this bum that couldn't even deliver assists againt RKC and Go Ahead Eagles will never ceaze to amaze me. His stats were already poor at Ajax, how would you possibly think he will improve that in a league that is way more competitive? Say what you want about Cody Gakpo, he had a difficult couple of games at Liverpool, but he smashed the entire Eredivisie with his stats and now is starting to pick up pace. Should've spent the money on a winger that can actually deliver assists.
 
lsd said:
Worrying how he has already scored and contributed more than Antony in half the time
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Wouldn't expect any different given their prior records

Antony looks to me like the most unjustified megasigning ever. Given his goal and assist numbers in Netherlands were so average and they seem to reflect his potential. You can point at lukaku, pogba or grealish but they all at least seemed to have the potential to justify the fees paid
 
Skills said:
That's what's concerning. How can someone who have watched him day in day out for 3 years have sanctioned this mental signing. It's crazy.
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Ten Hag should have very minimal say on incoming transfers.
 
Another thing I've noticed is he can't get any power on his shots or crosses. Apart from a couple of his goals most of his shots are so easily saved. Its bad enough that its already predictable that he's aiming for the far corner.

To me its no surprise he hasn't scored again in the league since his introduction of 3 in 3. The City goal was a worldie but the goals he scored vs Arsenal and Everton were due to teams not knowing much about him at the time. He's been in the same situation since then but the goalies know where he's aiming for now and know exactly where to dive.

This is also the case with his crossing. If by a miracle he can manage to get good height on it, it will be a loopy and slow cross that is easily intercepted or caught by the keeper.

There are a number of kneejerk threads and posts after yesterday, understably so but this one absolutely isn't, Antony is a waste of money.
 
Real Name said:
A manager who'll work with a player who comes in should have very minimal say.
Sounds logical.
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Yes, leave him to coaching the squad.

It's how most top clubs operate.

If Klopp had his way, Liverpool would have signed Brandt over Salah.
 
Real Name said:
A manager who'll work with a player who comes in should have very minimal say.
Sounds logical.
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To be fair this is the case with most of the other top clubs. We've been here before with Mourinho, Ole etc.
 
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