Funnier thing is, I was watching Keane hating on Maguire, Shaw and De Gea montage earlier just how Keane has been on Sky Sports for years. (not saying I agree or disagree with those players)
But for years he's been saying "lack of characters, do your job, stop making excuses" pretty blunt about "no leadership", "no character", "no standards".
Now people are beginning to be ABU (anything but united) more, saying we have cnuts for players and it means we have character and standards again.
Mourinho said in the Tottenham series they need to be a bunch of cnuts on the pitch (they didn't listen under Jose), Arsenal have been "nice" since Vieira, Petit, Keown, Adams etc left and they've won zilch.
Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Scholes, Vidic all had strong characters, Rio, Evra, Carrick, Giggs all had high standards. Didn't want to let down the manager etc.
Arsenal lack leaders, lack character, they might have some standards but Arteta ultimately will fall flat IMO. Odegaards gifted but he's a kid he needs strong characters around him too.
I genuinely feel this is the strongest United since around 2012/13, even before SAF left that season, we lack a striker but it's the strongest team since the title winning one. The question is can ETH drive the players to that level. We have really good players now with the right characters, some need to raise their standards like Sancho who can be world class but at this point we have something that you can't directly measure statistically.
We can measure xG, shots per game and pass completion but you can't measure players confidence, personalities, leadership. Chelsea, Arsenal don't have that.
You need that in leadership too, a manager you don't want to let down. A manager you'd die for on the pitch and run through brick walls through. You want me to kick Salah all game and get in his face? You want me to not play my usual role but not even let him turn? sure.
United haven't had that manager before ETH, would I as a player run through brick walls for LVG who was a little bit senile, No. Moyes? No. Ole? No. Jose? Maybe.
ETH is that manager you would now, you let him down you're out the team, and he gives you the right amount of information, same with Pep, Klopp and Conte managers you'd do everything for. Klopp I don't think is as good tactically as Pep but he's charismatic to the point you put in the energy and intensity for him, with Pep he's the best in the world you do what he says. Conte with how he handles conferences, the passion he has as a coach and his antics with Tuchel show why you would die on the pitch for him.
ETH is similar to Pep tactically, maybe not so charismatic but the standards are the same as a SAF at Aberdeen IMO he has that pedigree. We have the coach, the winning experience with Varane, Casemiro and Ronaldo and the characters with Martinez, Antony and Bruno.
Liverpool, Tottenham (Conte will bring it out in some players and others like Richarlison already have it) and City do have it, so do United now it's going to be really interesting I still feel Arsenal are lost.