Antoine Griezmann

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The whole reason people are hesitant is because of Pogba, but why? Pogba is a talented footballer who excels at nearly every facet a midfielder should. You mean to tell me that Pogba would struggle when we won things starting Cleverley, Anderson, 38 year old Giggs and Scholes out of retirement.
 
Infra-red said:
He is a good finisher, but there are also 35 players with more goals than him this season in Europe's top 5 leagues, and his goals per game ratio has never been particularly special.
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It's a known fact that he started the season off slowly and went through a goal drought, but past few weeks he's looking to get back to his best and popping them in from everywhere.
 
PedroMendez said:
I agree.
Atletico usually plays either 4-4-1-1 or a asymetrical 433.
In their "classic" formation they start with Koke and Saul as wide midfielders (=Koke - Gabi - Thiago - Saul), while Griezmann plays off a central forward like Torres/Gameiro/Mandzukic/Jackson/Vietto. In this system he has all the freedom on the world to roam around. Due to their injuries Correa also played a couple of games on the right side, so Saul played centrally.
In their "make-shift" 433, they usually start with Carrasco as a left winger, who provides width on the left, while Juanfran played as stand-in right winger similar to what Valencia does for United, while Griezmann is playing the classic role of a SS. Against the ball they usually switch back to a 442 and Carrasco defends as LM, while the other three midfielders fill the other three positions (= YFC - Koke - Gabi - Saul). Occasionally Griezmann has to defend on the right side of the midfield to help out, but it is not really his position.
He is best at finishing in/around the box, so he should play in this area. Additionally he has great work-rate/mobility and is always willing to be an option for his team-mates, which helps the team to link up. Thats why he is playing centrally, while shifting him out to the right would be stupid.
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True, I remember the game against Sociedad in Moyes' era, he played in the left iirc and I thought Griezmann was nothing special, sure he is a tidy little player with good striking technique but not that quick for a winger and do not have that special dribbling ability to go past opponent either

That's why when he moved to Atletico and he start scoring a load of goals as a striker I was surprised, and to think that now he has established himself as one of the best forward in the game, so if he moved here he need to play as a forward because that's where he is best at
 
NYAS said:
The problem is that we can say we lack goals and he brings goals and that's all well and good but that doesn't take into account that when players come to this club they, more often than not, turn to absolute shit. We used to say Mata was the best finisher at the club and look at what he served up on Saturday. Yeah it was only one game but look at Zlatan. He was a brilliant finisher in Paris and has been very disappointing with some of the chances he has completely fluffed this season. So don't be surprised to see Griezmann come and not be as deadly as he is with Atletico.

Why? Because our club is probably cursed.
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Right lads let's pack up and go home what is the point. Ffs cheer up NYAS.
 
Revan said:
Wouldn't like it, because I rate Martial very high and think that he has Ballon D'Or potential.

If we sign Griezmann, it should be as a replacement for both Rooney and Mata. If you add their minutes and give to Griezmann, you can keep happy both him and Martial (well, give some minutes from Ibra to Martial). I think that Ibra, Griezmann, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford and Lingard could be kept happy (of course, Lingard would get far less minutes than any of the others). There are enough minutes in 55 or so matches per season for all of them.
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Mata has the quality to compete with Griezman and co for a start so if it is to free up wages or for numbers I'd rather sell (offload) Rooney, Bastian, Young, Adnan, Fellaini, Blind and Darmain before Mata unless it was too a tempting offer.
 
Mkhitaryan/Lingard-------------Mata/Pogba----------------Griezmann/Martial

----------------------------------Ibra/Rashford--------------------------------
 
devilish said:
Mkhitaryan/Lingard-------------Mata/Pogba----------------Griezmann/Martial

----------------------------------Ibra/Rashford--------------------------------
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It should be more like this:

Griezmann/Mkhitaryan-------------Pogba/Mata----------------Martial/Lingard

----------------------------------Ibra/Rashford--------------------------------

Martial is the most talented of all these 8 player without any shadow of doubt, he must be ever present in the first XI.
 
Ramshock said:
:lol: Really? He isnt a starlet he is one of the best players in the world already.
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Yea I know who he is! I meant that when I find myself watching players on youtube I'm all aboard the muppet train choo choo
 
unimaginative_name said:
It should be more like this:

Griezmann/Mkhitaryan-------------Pogba/Mata----------------Martial/Lingard

----------------------------------Ibra/Rashford--------------------------------

Martial is the most talented of all these 8 player without any shadow of doubt, he must be ever present in the first XI.
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Agree with the change in position for Griezmann. The problem here is that in all the options apart from Griezmann/Mkhitaryan its obvious who should be the starting player where as with the Griezmann/Mkhitaryan option they should both be starting players so it still doesn't quite work. Not that i'm advocating for this lineup but it would need to be something like this to get our best players on the pitch:

---One hell of a hybrid combination of DM and Deep lying playmaker player---

----------------------------------------Pogba----------------------------------------

Mkhitaryan--------------------------Griezmann-----------------------------Martial

-----------------------------------------Ibra-----------------------------------------
 
Too much Griezmann talk at this stage. Beyond @Acquire Me's teases and a flimsy skysports article there hasn't been much smoke.
 
There's so much smoke, smoke might as well be renamed to Griezmann at this point. You'd have to be blind to not see it at this point. There's comfortably more talk about this than there was about Pogba this time last year.
 
How about that 4-3-2-1 christmas tree formation that Milan used to play?

Griezmann and Mikhi could probably fit there, and Pogba is still in midfield 3, but tbf I've never seen team other than Milan (or team in FM) used this formation though :lol:
 
Attila said:
There's been lots of smoke
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Where? Skysports often reduces to clickbait these days. I do rate Acquireme on the caf after his Mourinho posts, but that seemed a more obvious deal than this.

I just think we're carried away because it circumstantially makes sense (his brother his a United fan, Simeone will leave and he would like to play with Pogba 'one day'). However this is not to say its certain and the mood on the thread suggests its a done dealio already. James Ducker even mentions conflicting reports suggesting Chelsea/City could be contenders. Especially considering how Atletico and Costa want each other and a swap+cash deal is just as viable as anything we would offer.
 
lawliet354 said:
How about that 4-3-2-1 christmas tree formation that Milan used to play?

Griezmann and Mikhi could probably fit there, and Pogba is still in midfield 3, but tbf I've never seen team other than Milan (or team in FM) used this formation though :lol:
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TBH any formation can work if you have enough energy and movement. Our forwards are often too static which is why we need a good formation to make anything work.
 
VP89 said:
Where? Skysports often reduces to clickbait these days. I do rate Acquireme on the caf after his Mourinho posts, but that seemed a more obvious deal than this.

I just think we're carried away because it circumstantially makes sense (his brother his a United fan, Simeone will leave and he would like to play with Pogba 'one day'). However this is not to say its certain and the mood on the thread suggests its a done dealio already. James Ducker even mentions conflicting reports suggesting Chelsea/City could be contenders. Especially considering how Atletico and Costa want each other and a swap+cash deal is just as viable as anything we would offer.
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Nothing is 100% but my gut tells me he would come here above City or Chelsea. I also think it's going to be a short saga because it's kind of verbally done plus mouriniho will want him early to train with the squad! My gut has been wrong but everything seems to be in our favour! Expect it done shortly after the players holidays, lol unless it's a Pogba special holiday
 
Brophs said:
His dad is dead?????
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No, his dad isn't agent and Griezmann doesn't have an agent. His father and the scout that discovered him will advise him like always but Griezmann got rid of his agent.
 
Stretford Red1978 said:
But his dad represents him so he is kind of his agent
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No one represents him, he represents himself. His own words are "I will operate without agent but I will continue with my advisors, my dad and my mentor Eric Olhats...".
 
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