Antoine Griezmann

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For what it's worth, I'm 4 for 4 just like @Acquire Me. I got all of Mourinho, Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan and Pogba to United right fairly early on too. I'm not necessarily saying that he/she's a spoofer, but those transfers were fairly obvious very early on, so they don't really prove ITK credentials IMO. I would've believed him if he had managed to predict Bailly before anyone else but again, if you believe him on his source, of course the marketing department wouldn't care about a relatively unknown Ivory Coast centre back when Jose, Zlatan and Pogba are on the agenda. So him not hearing about Bailly is somewhat reasonable.

Hell, I'll match him and say Griezmann to United is happening. It seems fairly obvious to me. If the transfer happens, do I get recognition as an ITK? I'd like to see him predict a more left field transfer before I'm convinced.

Edit: Just wanted to say @Acquire Me, sorry if my post sounds a bit aggressive. Don't mean it that way. I mean, it's not like it matters whether I'm convinced or not, but just wanted to get my point across. Sorry!

I really think hes had enough of these types of posts now :lol:
 
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Why you jealous for? he's only passing on info. People don't have to believe him. Let's be honest Pogba an Mourinho were not obvious, he was pretty confident early on it would happen when most got cold feet and panicked.

I don't really see why they care if he's right or wrong, you don't win any medals :lol:

Yeah, I'm probably just a bit jealous. It doesn't matter really whether he's ITK or not. But I really want to believe, and I'm struggling to believe for now. Griezmann is definitely happening though.

I really think hes had enough of these types of posts now :lol:

Yeah, he probably has :lol: In my defence, I did at least say sorry :)

Oh excellent. Aside from Griezmann, who else are we signing this summer?

Might as well stick my neck out and say Bakayoko :angel:
 
Yeah, I'm probably just a bit jealous. It doesn't matter really whether he's ITK or not. But I really want to believe, and I'm struggling to believe for now. Griezmann is definitely happening though.
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You'll soon learn we have plenty of "ITK" people on this forum, most turn out to be lies. You just need to take the little info we get as a pinch of salt and see where it goes. It's not like he's blurting out random names who we've never been linked too, he obviously hears about the deals which are "almost" done (most big ones are worked on for a while) I imagine Griezmann is 1 of those too. I bet we started trying since the Euros.
 
You'll soon learn we have plenty of "ITK" people on this forum, most turn out to be lies. You just need to take the little info we get as a pinch of salt and see where it goes. It's not like he's blurting out random names who we've never been linked too, he obviously hears about the deals which are "almost" done (most big ones are worked on for a while) I imagine Griezmann is 1 of those too. I bet we started trying since the Euros.

Then we might as well forget Iever said anything and move the discussion back to how we fit Pogba and Griezmann into the same team. I for a long time thought Mourinho will just go back to a 4-2-3-1 with Griezmann playing off Ibra and Pogba in a midfield two with a Kante type force of nature.

But seeing his recent comments about how he realised Pogba's best role in working with him, comparing it to how he played Lampard as a wide forward in his first game but gradually realised that he had incredible potential to get goals from midfield, I reckon he'll stick with Pogba in a midfield three and play Griezmann wide right. Probably change the style of play a bit to accomodate Griezmann drifting centrally.
 
I don't question Aquire Me but for me it was no surprise that Mourinho & Pogba was coming to United. Neither was Zlatan as it looked obvious for some time.
 
Then we might as well forget Iever said anything and move the discussion back to how we fit Pogba and Griezmann into the same team. I for a long time thought Mourinho will just go back to a 4-2-3-1 with Griezmann playing off Ibra and Pogba in a midfield two with a Kante type force of nature.

But seeing his recent comments about how he realised Pogba's best role in working with him, comparing it to how he played Lampard as a wide forward in his first game but gradually realised that he had incredible potential to get goals from midfield, I reckon he'll stick with Pogba in a midfield three and play Griezmann wide right. Probably change the style of play a bit to accomodate Griezmann drifting centrally.

We actually already play with the RW drifting centrally anyway.
 
Then we might as well forget Iever said anything and move the discussion back to how we fit Pogba and Griezmann into the same team. I for a long time thought Mourinho will just go back to a 4-2-3-1 with Griezmann playing off Ibra and Pogba in a midfield two with a Kante type force of nature.

But seeing his recent comments about how he realised Pogba's best role in working with him, comparing it to how he played Lampard as a wide forward in his first game but gradually realised that he had incredible potential to get goals from midfield, I reckon he'll stick with Pogba in a midfield three and play Griezmann wide right. Probably change the style of play a bit to accomodate Griezmann drifting centrally.

Just don't see how we can keep playing with inverted wingers + fullbacks who can't support and/or cross. Leaves us with a predictable attack that costs a shit ton of money.
 
We actually already play with the RW drifting centrally anyway.

I know but Griezmann won't offer the pace from a standing start that Mkhitaryan brings, and he's not as inventive a passer as Mata. When I say we'll change our style of play, I mean that I can see us becoming a team that is faster in moving from defence to attack like Mourinho's Real. That would take the burden of passing away from Griezmann and allow him to use his intelligence and running ability to get into scoring positions to put the finishing touches to moves. As @Philadelphian has pointed out above, playing the more pass-and-move build up style we hae right now with two inverted wingers probably clogs up the middle of the pitch a bit.
 
Just don't see how we can keep playing with inverted wingers + fullbacks who can't support and/or cross. Leaves us with a predictable attack that costs a shit ton of money.

I think Valencia has been excellent in that role this season and weirdly he has become a decent crosser of the ball. A new left back will probably be brought in which is a shame because I am a big fan of Shaw.
 
This seems certain to happen, the only thing that worries me is if things will change if we fail to qualify for the champions league
 
Mourinho was one of the most obvious things EVER. From I'd say January, anyone with any sense knew it was happening.

Will be interesting to see where he plays though. Mourinho tends to like his lead strikers to be big and able to hold up the ball.

Im also assuming Rooney is gone if Griezmann comes. Maybe Mata too.

Hopefully we will have the sense to keep Martial and Rashford.
 
Will be an exciting signing if it comes off, I'm guessing the (cursed?) number 7 shirt has already been lined up for him now that Depay has gone. Personally I think he would be great on either flanks cutting inside, I don't see him as an out and out striker but that is what we have Zlatan (and the Rashford) for.
 
and he's not as inventive a passer as Mata

take the burden of passing away from Griezmann

Griezmann is just as good in passing as Mata, make no mistake. There is no "burden" for him :lol: he initiated countless chances and goals for Atletico with brilliant passes. Had just one of those the last game, you'll see that kind of pass from him any other week
 
Who would you rather for £80m: Griezmann or Dele Alli? What if the latter finished on 20 goals this season?

I think they are similar players. I wonder if that opinion is uncommon.
 
Who would you rather for £80m: Griezmann or Dele Alli? What if the latter finished on 20 goals this season?

I think they are similar players. I wonder if that opinion is uncommon.

As much as i rate Dele Alli - i think he is the best English footballer already in technical terms - i would still take Griezmann. He is on another level, which Alli might or might not reach. Griezmann is pure and simple absolute world class. A stage Alli has not (yet) reached
 
The one who isn't english.Dybala/Griezmann/Sanchez/another meme player. Whatever, doesn't matter.
 
Who would you rather for £80m: Griezmann or Dele Alli? What if the latter finished on 20 goals this season?

I think they are similar players. I wonder if that opinion is uncommon.
Not too uncommon. I said in Alli thread in football section that Alli played like second forward which similar to Griezmann.

Even if Alli scores that much, with his lack of involvement in midfield (even less than Griezmann), the latter is better fit for our need. We don't buy Pogba so he is stuck doing defensive midfielder work. Pogba should be afforded to join the attack where he is very talented. Utilize Griezmann with Pogba is hard enough, who is experienced & performed in big competitions (CL, EURO, World Cup...), let alone Alli who only his second season in PL while being unimpressive in CL & EURO.
 
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Who would you rather for £80m: Griezmann or Dele Alli? What if the latter finished on 20 goals this season?

I think they are similar players. I wonder if that opinion is uncommon.

Ironically, the way Spurs does their business, I believe we'd get more value from Griezmann. With the last year that Alli has had, I'd hate to think what Spurs would want for him.

At least Griezmann has a release clause.
 
Who would you rather for £80m: Griezmann or Dele Alli? What if the latter finished on 20 goals this season?

I think they are similar players. I wonder if that opinion is uncommon.
I think they're both top class and I'd have either at the club but I think Levy would squeeze a lot more than £80m out of whoever wanted Alli.
 
I still find surprising how people in this forum and English press in general almost see griezmann as a done deal. In Spain it is not even a rumor.
 
I still find surprising how people in this forum and English press in general almost see griezmann as a done deal. In Spain it is not even a rumor.

If there's one thing the transfer muppetry has thaught me, it's that the Spanish media is even worse than the English when it comes to transfers.
 
I still find surprising how people in this forum and English press in general almost see griezmann as a done deal. In Spain it is not even a rumor.
They never know shite to be fair, then again neither does the English media.
 
I still find surprising how people in this forum and English press in general almost see griezmann as a done deal. In Spain it is not even a rumor.
Probably cause there's nothing much h to report. The admission of interest seems to be from the United end. It's a fairly straightforward transfer. In that, if we want him, we simply match his clause. That's if he's willing to join.
 
It seems a very reasonable and realistic transfer. Simeone will use the money to bring Costa back + some extra reinforcement.
They have spent too much money in strikers and I think that for his system a top striker can be more important than Griezmann.
I mean,he can "create" or find a new Griezmann but he can't find so easily a #9
Even in case that Simeone will leave Atleti it's still a good business for the club.
They paid for him 30m€ and they'll get 100
 
Where are we supposed to play him? behind Zlatan and have Pogba start in a midfield 2 again?
I can see that working well...
 
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