Antoine Griezmann

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I would take him in an instant and give Mata in compensation.

Mata would be glad to be back in Madrid, and Griezmann would be glad to come to the club he loves.

I talked about his position, but knowing that Zlatan is 35/36, Antoine will share the position with him. Once in the right wing like Mata does and coming inside, and sometimes straight behind him.
A team with Zlatan Griezmann Pogba Mkhitaryan, adding a fit Shaw, an attacking Valencia would be ideal too. But if Antoine comes, we'll have to add steel in midfield (to replace Carrick) and in central defense too
 
I agree with you on the notion that Griezemann would be a vanity buy and we don't really need to buy a second striker, but wouldn't he be the ideal replacement for Wayne Rooney? The way we play now sees Pogba play as a No 10 or as part of a midfield 3. Griezemann's supposed best position would be as a No 10. Assuming Mourinho's long term plan is to have Rashford as the central striker, would mean, our front 6 would look something like this;

CDM - Pogba
Mkhitaryan - Griezemann - Martial
Rahsford
I do agree that he's not what we need as a midfielder is top priority especially if Carrick calls it his time and Schmidfield leave as well. Getting a player to alternate with Rashford is also key like you highlighted, but considering Rashford has mentioned that he would like to play as a No 10 in the future means, Griezemann and him can do a lot of swapping around. The movement the front 4 will offer will be just ridiculously delectable and with Pogba and hopefully a good Carrick replacement, there will be passers in the team who can pick up this movement.

As you can easily see, I am personally torn on this one. :(
On a superficial level, I love the idea of Griezman but the more I think about it, the more I struggle to see where he'd play that would improve us overall. The last thing I'd want to change is our midfield setup. It's in perfect harmony as it is.
 
On a superficial level, I love the idea of Griezman but the more I think about it, the more I struggle to see where he'd play that would improve us overall. The last thing I'd want to change is our midfield setup. It's in perfect harmony as it is.
Yeah, that's probably the same set of emotions I am wrestling with. I want him here, but I don't know where he would play and who he would displace. The only position where I think he could play is as a False 9. He has the technical qualities and play-making abilities to do that. But then we can only buy him in 2018 after Ibra leaves.
 
Hate to say it but he's been teasing about Arsenal now as well. Telling Koscielny how they are a good footballing team, but that he is happy in Madrid....
 
Hate to say it but he's been teasing about Arsenal now as well. Telling Koscielny how they are a good footballing team, but that he is happy in Madrid....
I do think there's a decent chance Simeone takes the Arsenal job in the summer, and brings Griezmann with him.
 
Griezmann will not leave atletico next season. He'll stay there until the ban is lifted, summer 2018. Which works out great for united, since signing him now would relegate martial to the bench
 
Hate to say it but he's been teasing about Arsenal now as well. Telling Koscielny how they are a good footballing team, but that he is happy in Madrid....

He hasn't teased anyone. He said that Koscielny talks about Arsenal and that people keep talking about England with him but he is happy in Spain, happy in Madrid and doesn't want to leave.
 
He hasn't teased anyone. He said that Koscielny talks about Arsenal and that people keep talking about England with him but he is happy in Spain, happy in Madrid and doesn't want to leave.
That´s what I understood as well..
 
Uhm nr 3 in the ballon d'or

He has been Atlético's most important player in attack

Since he has been with atletico he has scored 66 goals and assisted 19 times in 128 games which are huge stats and he hasn't always played as a main striker aswell.

He has not only shown himself at Atlético, he was also huge for Real sociedad and he has shown his quality also for the french national team on numerous occassions, easily been their best player on the euros.

How can we possibly overrate him ? Only Ronaldo and Messi have been better and more influential than him in attack.
You overrate him when you claim only Ronaldo & Messi are better in attack.
 
Griezmann will not leave atletico next season. He'll stay there until the ban is lifted, summer 2018. Which works out great for united, since signing him now would relegate martial to the bench

Real Madrid ban reduced to just the January window. Will this be the same for Atletico?
 
Zlatan
Martial Griezman Myktarin
Pogba Herrera
Shaw Bailly Smalling Valencia
DDG

Looks mouthwatering to me!

The midfield control we have been enjoying will be gone once Pogba is pushed further back and we haven't got a proper holder, we paid £89M for a unique player, a #8/#10 hybrid, I can't see the point in not building the team around him and to his strengths, which is having the freedom to drift between the two roles in midfield, not stuck in a double pivot with a #10/SS in his attacking zones.
 
I think there is very good chance we will sign him in the summer and number 7 shirt will be waiting.
 
The midfield control we have been enjoying will be gone once Pogba is pushed further back and we haven't got a proper holder, we paid £89M for a unique player, a #8/#10 hybrid, I can't see the point in not building the team around him and to his strengths, which is having the freedom to drift between the two roles in midfield, not stuck in a double pivot with a #10/SS in his attacking zones.

This. Pogba is an absolute monster and from all accounts getting back to Manchester and playing a major role in the club's success was a goal of his. I can't fathom people wanting to shove him back into a place that weakens both his potential and very likely our team's. There is not another player in the world right now that matches Pogba's qualities, and it couldn't be more obvious that all of his qualities come out in a midfield 3.
 
You overrate him when you claim only Ronaldo & Messi are better in attack.
Really get the feeling that a lot of people arent entirely sure what type of player he usually is. Think they feel like he would be one who is capable of destroying teams on his own individual skill like Sanchez/hazard are capable of doing or that he can be a top class playmaker when he really isnt the type. On natural ahility he isnt the 3rd best player in the world at all, but he is a really effective player and is by all purposes, a second striker. Obviously would be a class signing but having him would limit us in terms of tactical flexibility as he would be a bit rigid in how we can use him in the premier league.
 
Would you swap Martial for him?

No. Martial is still young and has potential. Keep the French attack alive! Vive La Révolution!

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I wouldn't if I were united. Nor if i were atletico. United don't need him that much right now and martial has so much potential that it would be stupid to let him go unless you were getting neymar or dybala in exchange.
 
Would you swap Martial for him?
Why would we need to tbh? We have the money to outright buy Griezmann. But if the sitaution was either Martial or Griezmann, I'd honestly prefer us to keep Martial as I think he'll be the better player in the long run.
 
Buy him. United have a few forward options just now, but bear in mind Ibrahimovic will probably only be here this season and next and Rooney has a question mark over him also. The fact that Griezmann can play anywhere in the attacking positions is a huge asset.
 
I'm surprised the amount of people who would rather keep Martial than swap him for Griezmann if it for some reason come to that. I don't see Martial ever being a top 5 forward in the world which Griezmann has been (subject to debate I guess).
 
I'm surprised the amount of people who would rather keep Martial than swap him for Griezmann if it for some reason come to that. I don't see Martial ever being a top 5 forward in the world which Griezmann has been (subject to debate I guess).
Why the surprise? We do have a tradition at Utd for wanting to see a young footballer develop.

There is also an antipathy to seeing Utd bring in Galacticos. We're not Madridnir do I think we should go down that route
 
If done properly it's a good route to follow.
 
Why would we need to tbh? We have the money to outright buy Griezmann. But if the sitaution was either Martial or Griezmann, I'd honestly prefer us to keep Martial as I think he'll be the better player in the long run.
just a hypothetical question if they asked for martial in return
 
Zlatan
Martial Griezman Myktarin
Pogba Herrera
Shaw Bailly Smalling Valencia
DDG

Looks mouthwatering to me!

In order to make this work you'd need a midfielder with Carrick's finesse, Herrera's work rate, and a bit of Roy Keane thrown in for good measure - to accompany Pogba in the middle.
 
I would much rather prefer Lukaku in 2018 and probably a winger (depending on how Martial develops). We have much more pressing concerns than signing a superstar striker.

This year , we have to get couple of midfielders to replace Carrick, Bastian & Morgan.

Lukaku is not that good. Often goes missing and not clinical enough in front of goal.
 
In order to make this work you'd need a midfielder with Carrick's finesse, Herrera's work rate, and a bit of Roy Keane thrown in for good measure - to accompany Pogba in the middle.

Yep, it would still be a waste of Pogba though, he is a very unique #8/#10 hybrid and the proper 3 man midfield allows him to excel, we paid £89M for hi and should build around that accordingly. If Griezmann can mesh his Real Sociedad qualities with his Atletico ones then maybe he'd work in one of the WF roles, we shall see.
 
He's an amazing player, but there's probably about 3 players we could buy just from Atletico that would go further towards fixing our team.

Ah i'd still love to see him here though, if Jose's got a plan then sign him up. He's too good.
 
In order to make this work you'd need a midfielder with Carrick's finesse, Herrera's work rate, and a bit of Roy Keane thrown in for good measure - to accompany Pogba in the middle.

In the big games we would need another midfielder. At home against the majority we could go with this.
 
He's an amazing player, but there's probably about 3 players we could buy just from Atletico that would go further towards fixing our team.

Ah i'd still love to see him here though, if Jose's got a plan then sign him up. He's too good.
Will he join us over other clubs right now?
 
Lukaku over Griezmann :wenger:

Like choosing Scott Sinclair over Messi :lol:
 
The best thing about Griezmann is his ruthlessness, he is very good at finishing chances. We've been missing that over the last few years.
 
Sign him up and that will be us with 3 world class players to compliment DDG Pogba. A must imo we can play him and Pogba and get the best out of both.
 
Sign him up and that will be us with 3 world class players to compliment DDG Pogba. A must imo we can play him and Pogba and get the best out of both.

How, there is a probably a way but how would you do it?
 
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