According to a Atleti fan web:Anyone have any idea what he earns and what Athletico could afford to pay him?
Koke-6 m€ net
Griezmann-5.5m€ net
Godín-5
http://www.colchonero.com/asi_es_el...cias_del_atletico_de_madrid-ispyp-1339804.htm
According to a Atleti fan web:Anyone have any idea what he earns and what Athletico could afford to pay him?
Seriously.
My strong suspicion is that Griezmann and his agent just want a better contract. Atleti will benefit enormously from the new La Liga TV deal. Their revenues from domestic broadcasting have been in the 40-45m euro range but starting in 2016-17 will be rising to around 116m euro. The following year they move to the new stadium and that will improve their matchday revenues significantly.
Basically, Atleti is on the verge of a huge financial windfall that will really change the outlook for the club. Griezmann is one of their most important players, is under contract until 2020 on wages that don't reflect his quality, and probably wants his piece of the pie.
From Atleti's standpoint, selling Griezmann makes absolutely zero sense, on the field or off. They don't really need the money and its very important for them to keep building on their success of the last few years, especially as they move into the new stadium. They don't always sell out the Calderon and the new stadium has 20,000 more seats so they really need to keep putting a very high quality product on the field to try to grow attendance.
Sorry to throw cold water on all the muppets out there...
Probably not much more but enough to probably keep him happy.
If I'm not mistaken Koke earns +10m per year, so I wouldn't be surprised if Griezmann is offered something around that.
Koke on about £160,000 a week? Bloody hell wouldn't have expect that.
Koke on about £160,000 a week? Bloody hell wouldn't have expect that.
Not that surprising, I think Chelsea activated his release clause but he didnt want to go last year, he is rated as one of the best young spanish players out there. Athletico is sitting on a goldmine with him
Fair play to him, I would stay for that too. lol. Has he had a good season? The hype has died abit on him and when I have seen him he's generally just been okay. TBF though he spends most of the time playing as one of Simeone's stupid midfield wingers.
He is among the best players and passers in Europe, I think that he is in the top 5 for assists.
Are you sure the bolded is correct? The current premier league deal gives the third most successful team c. €124m on a deal worth around €2.4b per season. The Spanish tv deal would be around €1.45b per season which would be 40% less.
That'd mean if the distributions were the same Atletico would be receiving around €74m , rather than €116m?
Unless the distributions still heavily benefit the top few clubs?
He just said recently that he is very happy at Atletico and about to sign a new contract. This one's not happening.
Koke started slow but has had a fantastic season. He has second highest assists next to Messi and Suarez. If there is one criticism is that his setpieces have not been so good compared to his previous standards.Fair play to him, I would stay for that too. lol. Has he had a good season? The hype has died abit on him and when I have seen him he's generally just been okay. TBF though he spends most of the time playing as one of Simeone's stupid midfield wingers.
Here is an article that gives the estimated new distributions under the 2016-17 La Liga deal. I cannot vouch for it being 100% accurate.
I think the key point is that the La Liga distributions, while much more equal than how the TV pie was distributed there in the past, are still considerably more unequal than the Premier League distributions. A bigger share of the Premier League revenues are split equally among all clubs, some are unequal due to league position, and then a relatively small additional amount is unequally distributed based on facilities fees for televised matches. But even that last category every club ranges from 10-20m pounds a year. In the La Liga deal, 50% of the revenue is equally distributed among all clubs but then the other 50% is distributed based on league finish and resource generation in a way that is very disproportionate.
My understanding is that this was the compromise that could be cut in Spain to get Barca and Real Madrid on board with the new system. They would not agree to a revenue split as egalitarian as the Premier League deal. The primary beneficiaries are Barca and Real but Atleti also will end up being helped by this system as long as they retain their position as the third most successful team.
I think that it was his gross salary which correlates the numbers that @carvajal found.
Edit: He is basically paid like most Real Madrid players.
According to a Atleti fan web:
Koke-6 m€ net
Griezmann-5.5m€ net
Godín-5
http://www.colchonero.com/asi_es_el...cias_del_atletico_de_madrid-ispyp-1339804.htm
Carjaval said 6m euros a year which is 88k a week.
It's 6m after taxes.
In Spain the football salaries come usually in net. I think that they can't afford to increase it more.Although the financial situation of the club is better I think that would be happy getting the clause and buying a new Griezmann for 30/35 m€That's about under 90k so they'll have to up that considerably to keep him.
Ah I see. Strange to see net figures, would have thought they'd avoid a lot of tax with some Messi accountancy.
I am of the belief that if we really want him, we can get him.
Straight away I'd say that article is bogus. The total amount it has as being paid out is €1.85b, which is over 35% more than the €1.3b that La Liga teams are likely to receive (only 90% of the deal goes to top division teams).
With Real Madrid and Barcelona's money ring fenced at €150m each and 50% of the money split evenly (c. €32.5m each). That would leave c. €400m in merit payments to be split between 18 clubs. Even if they were weighted so Atletico received 4x the bottom club you're looking at maybe €75m total.
This represents an increase of maybe €30m euros vs their current deal, which whilst good is not going to be the difference between keeping their stars and not keeping them. Paticularly as their revenue last year was similar to Newcastle's and even with this new deal would be 15% less than Spurs' current revenue (pre-2016 tv deal which will significantly increase).
People on this thread assuming Greizmann and Koke earn €200k a week (gross) are almost certainly well wide of the mark. Given a revenue of €187m last year that alone would represent 12% of their turnover and ~20% of their salary bill.
Just as a comparison Atletico paying that kind of salary would be akin to United paying Rooney and De Gea €600k per week each.
You may be right and the numbers in that article may be inflated. But I disagree that an additional 30-40m euros from TV, combined with a substantial rise in matchday revenue, won't substantially change the financial picture for Atleti vis-a-vis a few years ago. I agree, however, that they won't be paying the kinds of salaries you mention. But salaries in that range are not always necessary to hang on to a player like Griezmann for a few more years.
He is a long standing MUFC fan and maybe with enough money and Jose he can be got, but it is a real longshot
He treats a lot about positive stuff Liverpool for a United fan...
Not that it would make a difference to who he joined, but I don't think he's a fan of United.
Yeah, his brother is a United fan but Griezmann never said anything about it and he doesn't seem to openly support a club other than Sociedad.
Not quite. There has already been made an approximation by superdeporte and Atletico's tv revenues could increase by €60m on the old deal. Furthermore Gil (straight from the horse's mouth) said their tv income could increase from €41m last year to €95m next year, which is also pretty close to superdeporte's estimation.With Real Madrid and Barcelona's money ring fenced at €150m each and 50% of the money split evenly (c. €32.5m each). That would leave c. €400m in merit payments to be split between 18 clubs. Even if they were weighted so Atletico received 4x the bottom club you're looking at maybe €75m total.
This represents an increase of maybe €30m euros vs their current deal, which whilst good is not going to be the difference between keeping their stars and not keeping them. Paticularly as their revenue last year was similar to Newcastle's and even with this new deal would be 15% less than Spurs' current revenue (pre-2016 tv deal which will significantly increase).
People on this thread assuming Greizmann and Koke earn €200k a week (gross) are almost certainly well wide of the mark. Given a revenue of €187m last year that alone would represent 12% of their turnover and ~20% of their salary bill.
Just as a comparison Atletico paying that kind of salary would be akin to United paying Rooney and De Gea €600k per week each.
Not quite. There has already been made an approximation by superdeporte and Atletico's tv revenues could increase by €60m on the old deal. Furthermore Gil (straight from the horse's mouth) said their tv income could increase from €41m last year to €95m next year, which is also pretty close to superdeporte's estimation.
Also at the annual shareholders meeting Atletico have already announced their budgets for this season being €241.1m(with expenditure of €240.5m).2014/15
http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com...la-gestion-del-club-con-el-99-76-de-los-votos
Atletico cannot afford to pay big salaries to all their players but they can certainly premium wages to a couple of their big names like Koke, Godin and Griezmann.
Those distributions put my figure of 4x guess to shame! With it being close to 9x difference in merit payments from 20th - 3rd or 15 x between top and bottom. I suppose when you're getting as screwed over as the lower clubs were getting, you take whatever scraps you can get.
Their income still wouldn't realistically allow them to pay €10m per annum to 2-3 player's. Spurs will have a much greater turnover of over €350m next season and they're currently preparing a c.€100k a week contract for their star striker.
I'd be very skeptical of articles saying Godin/Griezmann/Koke earn a combined gross salary of over €30m.
It is not hard to believe at all. Let us suppose that these figures are true or close to the mark - http://sportsmaza.com/football/atletico-madrid-players-salaries/ . The total squad salaries comes to about £69.6 million or €91 million. That is about 37% of their budget for the season. As a comparison Spurs wage bill is at £100 million.Those distributions put my figure of 4x guess to shame! With it being close to 9x difference in merit payments from 20th - 3rd or 15 x between top and bottom. I suppose when you're getting as screwed over as the lower clubs were getting, you take whatever scraps you can get.
Their income still wouldn't realistically allow them to pay €10m per annum to 2-3 player's. Spurs will have a much greater turnover of over €350m next season and they're currently preparing a c.€100k a week contract for their star striker.
I'd be very skeptical of articles saying Godin/Griezmann/Koke earn a combined gross salary of over €30m.
That's true. A team like Spurs would have to pay over the odds to keep the same quality of players as Atletico in general i'd say.The difference with Spurs is that the median wage is probably a lot smaller, Tottenham pay more for players who are not their top players.
Edit: And there is more senior players in English teams due to the difference in registering rules.
It is not hard to believe at all. Let us suppose that these figures are true or close to the mark - http://sportsmaza.com/football/atletico-madrid-players-salaries/ . The total squad salaries comes to about £69.6 million or €91 million. That is about 37% of their budget for the season. As a comparison Spurs wage bill is at £100 million.
37% is the total, not for 3 players.I'd say 37% of their budget on 3 player's is completely unbelievable, if that's what you're suggesting.
If one of the top 4 clubs in the PL paid 37% of their salary on their 3 best players they'd be each being paid around £500k a week.
Even if we believe that they have an insanely inequitable wage structure and they have a tiny squad, it would be near impossible. Not least because it's not as if they have 3 superstars and then 15 no marks on tiny salaries.
37% is the total, not for 3 players.
As @JPRouve said, Tottenham pay more for players who are not their top players. The bench and squad players earn more in england then they do in Spain. If you accept this fact its easy to understand why it's possible.Ah I see, yes the €91m salary bill is believable. I don't think that Godin, Koke & Greizmann take up €30m (33%) of that though. Especially with several others on very good salaries also; the likes of Juanfran, Torres, Vietto, Savic, Luis, Gabi etc