You'd hope Jose would be good enough to not go into the season thinking Rooney is good enough to be the star player, LVG took the same risk and it cost him his job.
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You'd hope Jose would be good enough to not go into the season thinking Rooney is good enough to be the star player, LVG took the same risk and it cost him his job.
The Rooney problem is unsolvable short of an incredible offer from a Chinese club. No matter who we buy and sell if we keep Rooney Mourinho has a serious problem to solve.
The only solution I can see -- and I realize I'm reaching here -- is to build the greatest back line possible, the greatest front four possible and slot Rooney alongside a top DCM in a 4231 so that we can afford to have Rooney serve as a midfield passenger. He'll still ping a few passes here and there but will neither be relied upon heavily in defense or attack. It's a shitty solution but unless China comes calling or Wayne doesn't mind being dropped to the bench (and the club doesn't mind paying a bench players 300k/week) I don't see any other solution.
Let's add Greizmann, Ibrahimovic, Kante and name your CB and we're good to go.
probably best to press the reset button and create a new account after reading this.
Mata wishes he was as dynamic as Griezmann.
If Mourinho will count on Rooney and make him a starter, he will make the same mistakes as Moyes and LVG. Griezmann is a much better and more productive player nowadays while Rooney is holding us back. Rooney shouldnt even play in midfield
Crikey, Rooney isn't that bad is he?
In spells he is. Overall still a decent player, but obviously in decline. He's scored 29 goals in all comps over the last 2 Seasons and assisted 12. Those numbers would be ok if he was playing for Everton or was 35 years old, but a club like United should ask for more from their highest paid player and main attacking outlet. If a player of better quality was available in his position Rooney should be benched imho.
I guess it depends what position we are talking about. As a striker I completely agree with you, he should only be used as a backup. I think he has more to offer in a midfield role than some might think.
The question is if he could adapt to a deeper role. I guess positional awareness and tactical discipline wouldn't pose a problem, but how about his passing, first touch, vision? He doesn't strike me as the type of player who'd excell with the action in front of him, but I don't follow his daily training so who knows? He might be able to reinvent his style, but bottomline he should always be compared to other top players in whatever position gets played in, because in the end it should be the club's goal to be stacked with quality in every position.
Compare the midfielders of the top clubs (or re-watch the CL final game) where you see exactly what a top class midfielder can bring to a team. Rooney is not good enough anymore to play upfront (nor does his stats show that) nor is he a midfielder - he slows are game down way too much and his play is extremely predictable. He can produce some crossfield passes and some good passes here and there, but that's about it. A midfielder should be able to produce so much more though.
That's what I thought, too. He might hold his own in midfield at a slower pace but I fear he'd never make the difference in a high paced midfield battle, so why put him there in the first place? His skill set was always that of a striker. That's why he got played there or right behind one for most of his career. With those abilities slowly fading, what's left? As long as United miss top class midfielders he might get some game time, but a soon as the club get's in some real quality I'd say it's time say our farewells to one of the greatest talents at United over the past 30 years. The way Wayne's case get's handled ever since his obvious decline reminds me a little of this:
Back to Griezmann. He'd be the player to slot in right behind Rashford/Ibra. Can't see him leaving Atletico though unless Simeone calls it a day. Losing two CL finals in 3 years might actually get him to look for a new project, which would certainly shake the players and might get some of them do the same. We're up for an interesting summer.
ESPN reporting we are keen on both him and Gamiero.
http://www.espnfc.us/story/2885632/...igning-antoine-griezmann-kevin-gameiro-source
http://www.espnfc.us/story/2885632/...igning-antoine-griezmann-kevin-gameiro-source
I want to believe.
So finally someone linking him to us
Chelsea were regularly linked to him when Jose was there so this was bound to happen eventually. If we got him and Pogba I'd probably cry.
If Jose got us Griezmann I don't think I could wear trousers for a week.
Agreed. Someone like Griezmann or Pogba in addition to a CB and a striker and a RW would just be too much to handle for most of us muppets. We would be on lifesupport due to a deficiency of protein, electrolytes, zink and magnesium.
Think I'd faint
Wtf?
BrilliantSigning him or Pog-champ would only mean we're serious football club. Nothing unusual, biggest firms do that stuff all the time.
Martial-Rashford-Griezmann..muppet wet dream. Agent Martial please get on the case.
Unless we paying the buyout, I don't see it happening.
Simeone would go mental if it does and I don't think Athletico would want to piss him off currently.
What is the buyout currently?
Simeone would go mental if it does and I don't think Athletico would want to piss him off currently.
What is the buyout currently?
Meh, not taking anything from Miguel Delaney seriously, he has been complete crap for a while.
Either behind striker, with Rooney on the bench, or a right forward in a 4-3-3. We will probably not play with classical wingers.
Why would he wish that? He wasnt that dynamic in the champions league final tho was he? And as for The reset button tripe, I suggest you read the forum rules " attack the post not the poster".....
60m euro? that's what i heard last time.
I read a while back it was about 61 million pounds (80m euros)
ffs
Signing him or Pog-champ would only mean we're serious football club. Nothing unusual, biggest firms do that stuff all the time.
I hope simeone goes to Psg so that would be more chance of him leaving.
He's a brilliant talent and I've always wanted him at United since his Sociedad days.
But IMO it only makes sense if he plays as a forward up top in a 4-4-2 next to Martial or Rashford such that he can roam and play as 10 or as a RW or LW depending on where the space is.
I don't think he has the strength or the stamina to play as a lone striker or as an out and out winger in the premier league.
But IMO it only makes sense if he plays as a forward up top in a 4-4-2 next to Martial or Rashford such that he can roam and play as 10 or as a RW or LW depending on where the space is.
I don't think he has the strength or the stamina to play as a lone striker or as an out and out winger in the premier league.
---- Martial ---- Ibra --- Griezmann
exactly my thought
Personally, if we had Griezmann at our disposal, I think the way to get the best out of him would be to emulate Jupp Heynckes 4-2-3-1 Bayern side. He would suit the shadow striker role quite nicely, and could potentially have the sort of influence that Muller did. We'd need a player with pace and creativity on either side though, like Ribery and Robben to give him that space in central areas. Mourinho's Chelsea of the 2014/15 season consisted of a Matic and Fabregas with just Oscar ahead as a workhorse no.10 which worked quite well initially. However, Oscar's inconsistency meant Fabregas would often go into the no.10 role meaning Matic would be isolated in the process. I believe Jose wanted to rectify this in the subsequent season, which is exemplified by his interest in Muller ("Is anyone in England interested in Thomas Muller? For sure. Can we, England, bring Thomas Muller from Bayern? I don't think so) but given that Muller is a Bayern Munich player, it was invariably going to be difficult to attract him, which led to him saying "The way is to bring players like [Sergio] Aguero when Man City bought him or [Eden] Hazard when Chelsea bought him. Try to be lucky and have an Alexis [Sanchez] that is not playing regularly in Barcelona. [Cesc] Fabregas is similar to Alexis, not playing regularly. Arrive at a moment where these top players really want to leave and they force it a little bit" which is the category Griezmann would fall in. Granted, "if" is the conditional clause, but provided he successfully managed to secure that acquisition, I believe Mourinho would still be the Chelsea manager. Furthermore, I'd look to replicate the duo which were behind Muller in Javi Martinez and Schweinsteiger () One player in which I can see similarities with Javi Martinez is Sevilla's Krychowiak who has had a galvanizing influence on Sevilla in the Europa League, and similarly Javi Martinez helped Athletic Bilbao get to the Europa League final (they finished runners up) in that season. Both tall and aggressive. Anybody with similar qualities to Verratti would be the ideal partner for Krychowiak. If the aforementioned was all achieved, I could envisage Griezmann helping us get back to Europe's elite. Don't think we will get him though.
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From Champions League finalists to a side not even in the competition... Yeah not happening this summer, maybe next
Di Maria.. From Champions League winner to side not even in the competition...
That was Madrid's call not his, can't see his Athletico wanting to sell
Crock of shite.
Even less chance of this than Pogba
What is that Athletico made the final? No
That we're not in the competition next season? No
That this won't happen this summer? No
That it might happen next? Actually yeah you're right it's not happening then either
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