Antoine Griezmann| Signs a new contract till 2022
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Yes. Osausna and Alvaes are dominating European competitions.Yet somehow they dominate European competitions while English clubs look shite most of the times
I feel so old, the only name I recognize is Lil Durk and that's because I saw him on VLAD TV, I don't actually know any of his songs.
Ugh, outside of the tournemants International football is the drizzling shits.
Who is in the elite bracket of forwards?
Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Cavani, Ibra, Aguero, Lewandowski, Ronaldo off the top of my head.
I've just never got the Griezmann hype, I've watched a hell of a lot of him and I was actually more impressed when he was at Sociedad than Atletico. His goalscoring record for a side like Atletico is about par for the course for a striker at a dominant side.
Would you put him in the next bucket with say Costa, Kane, etc?
I don't really see what your point is. By stating that defending in Spain is usually, I inferred that the quality of the defence didn't matter as countless Premier league stars have come from Spain.Ok buddy, whatever you say
Atletico aren't actually that dominant though. They play in a similar way a Jose team does, if he scores 20 league goals here as a 2nd striker we will be happy.
Isn't he younger than all those guys except maybe Neymar?
Also I don't really think Griezmann's game is as much about goalscoring as someone like Cavani (who I don't rate that highly), Ibra, Aguero and Lewandowski. Then you have Messi and Ronaldo who are just freaks so it would be insane to compare anyone to them.
I think Griezmann would be great for us. Also bearing in mind where we finished in the league, I think it would be amazing to still be able to sign someone of Griezmann's quality
Going by what I witnessed at Euros, Griezmann is devastating on the break. He seems ideally suited to Jose's counter-attacking philosophy. Ideal long term Rooney replacement for both footballing and commercial reasons.
They are dominant against the majority of the sides in the league now, not through choice. Their ideal style of play is to counter but a lot sit back against them now.
In terms of goalscorers? No. I'd have him on a level with Costa but below kane. I'd rather sign Kane than Griezmann though. Costa is hard to place as when he's good, he's really good, but he's useless when off form.
He's a commercial dream. Clean cut good looking chap with a great rapport with our other marketing gem Pogba. I'd put money on him dropping Puma for Adidas pretty soon after joining.
Torn.
Brilliant player and I'd love to see him in a United shirt, but my gut feeling says this will play out rather more like Di Maria than Zlatan, to put it that way.
Brilliant player and I'd love to see him in a United shirt, but my gut feeling says this will play out rather more like Di Maria than Zlatan, to put it that way.
Hey everyone,
I've been away on holiday for a few weeks and haven't kept track of this. So what is the general consensus? Is he really going to sign? The odds on him joining us are mental (1/5, 1/8 sky bet).
How are the bookies so certain with no official sort of word on talks progressing. Do we know that United have even approached Atletico for him?
I've been away on holiday for a few weeks and haven't kept track of this. So what is the general consensus? Is he really going to sign? The odds on him joining us are mental (1/5, 1/8 sky bet).
How are the bookies so certain with no official sort of word on talks progressing. Do we know that United have even approached Atletico for him?
In the case of transfers odds change when lots of people put their money on something. It doesn't have to be news.
Nothing changed except for Pogba being funny.
I don't see him being a bitch like Di Maria was at all.
Nothing to use as evidence to compare him to Di Maria.
Di Maria was forced out, his first choice club to go to couldn't afford to buy him that summer, and he was playing for a manger whose philosophy is the exact opposites of his best qualities. If Griezmann leaves it'll be his choice and Mourinho's values match a lot of Griezmann's best qualities.
Generally agree. Attitude-wise I don't thin we'll have anything like those problems. It's a case of utilising him to his fullest potential. This does still concern me.
If you been away for a few weeks, you may have missed Griezmann saying in an interview, that chances of him joining Manchester United was 6 out of 10.
That was just before the europa league-final, so I guess that's what started it all.
It's difficult to compare Griezmann to proper strikers, two players in a similar mould are Sanchez and Dybala and I don't think he's as good as either of them. Still easily an improvement on what we've got and a sensible enough investment with his age and goalscoring record, not convinced he actually wants to leave Atletico for United, activating the release clause is the easy part.
1) In a 4231, behind the striker as a 10. In a 433, right wing.
2) They will play wide.
3) Yes. Not as good there as he is as second striker, but he can, and has played there. More notably for France.
As a 10
As a winger
4) Yes. Again, in the Euro's, when France switched to a 4231, Griezmann played in the 10 role behind Giroud.
5) Yes
6) Someone has said Thomas Muller, which to me, is a very good comparison.
7) Very good. (Hope I haven't jinxed it)
For what it's worth I think Di Maria would've excelled under Mourinho. For him it was a case of wrong timing.
I think that di Maria started alright for us but was not the same after the attempted break in. He wanted out of our club and wasn't happy with playing for the team. The vast majority of our signings won't end the way it did for him.
I'm pretty convinced that Griezmann will hit the ground running with us. He's just so cool and composed in front of goal - something we are sorely lacking.
Said it multiple times, but if anyone looked closely at our system ( when we was playing good football of course ), then our right winger has been a position on paper only, but on the pitch the RW joins the midfield and leaves Valencia alone on the right flank to hug the touchline and do the crosses. Basically Valencia has been the RB and RW for most of the season, except few times. When we turned to the highly defensive approach we took at the end of the season we started to play with real RW to track back all the time. The LW has always been hugging the left flank though but all players in this position failed except Rashford at some times.
I think this can be what Griezmann will do here in Jose's system if he's willing to play him on the right side then he'll probably cut inside and join the midfield with Mikhi ( The AMF ) while the LW, possible Perisic if we bought him, will be the LW hugging the touchline all the time.
I think Jose's taking exactly the same way he build his last Chelsea side on if we're going for this :
One attacking full back : Ivanovic = Valencia
One defensive full back : Azpe = Darmian
DMF : Matic = Herrera, can bring another one
CMF with attacking roles : Fabre = Pogba
One wing hugging the flank : Willian = Perisic if he comes
One wing with freedom in the attack ( doesn't mean he doesn't have defensive roles, but while attacking can do what he wants and not restricted to position ) : Hazard = Griezmann, possibly
A classic number 10 : Oscar = currently Mikhi. Would love to get James as he's a much better classic number 10 for Jose than Mikhi tbh.
CF : Costa = ? . That's the missing piece for me. We have only Rashford at the moment and we can't enter the season with him and injured Zlatan. We need a striker this summer.
I think this can be what Griezmann will do here in Jose's system if he's willing to play him on the right side then he'll probably cut inside and join the midfield with Mikhi ( The AMF ) while the LW, possible Perisic if we bought him, will be the LW hugging the touchline all the time.
I think Jose's taking exactly the same way he build his last Chelsea side on if we're going for this :
One attacking full back : Ivanovic = Valencia
One defensive full back : Azpe = Darmian
DMF : Matic = Herrera, can bring another one
CMF with attacking roles : Fabre = Pogba
One wing hugging the flank : Willian = Perisic if he comes
One wing with freedom in the attack ( doesn't mean he doesn't have defensive roles, but while attacking can do what he wants and not restricted to position ) : Hazard = Griezmann, possibly
A classic number 10 : Oscar = currently Mikhi. Would love to get James as he's a much better classic number 10 for Jose than Mikhi tbh.
CF : Costa = ? . That's the missing piece for me. We have only Rashford at the moment and we can't enter the season with him and injured Zlatan. We need a striker this summer.
Really? Interesting. I've read favourable comparisons to Hazard in the past.
I don't see any comparison to Sanchez, Hazard or Dybala, he isn't nearly as good on the ball as any of them but is a better finisher than them all and I'd say he has the best movement of the 4 as well.
Don't look at his instagram you guys might go crazy
This is a great point. Griezmann has world class composure in the final third, something we've been sorely lacking this season.
I assume you're referring to this. It doesn't mean much to be honest. He's still an Atletico player after all.Don't look at his instagram you guys might go crazy
So what, he is just bringing Lacazette with him to United. No big deal.
Simply not true. Out of those 3, only Hazard is superior.
Sanchez is really bad at keeping possession. A lot of things he tries don't come off. You can ask any Arsenal fan and they won't tell you any different.
Dybala's greatest asset much like Griezmann's, is his finishing and movement. But to me Griezmann is better at both.
Don't look at his instagram you guys might go crazy
So what do you feel the significance of that picture is then?
Possession has nothing to do with it, I was talking about as attackers on the ball, ie running at defenses, dribbling, picking key passes, they are all better at it than Griezmann, he's a finisher, and a great one, but he's not some dynamo on the ball that will terrorize teams.
Nothing it's a joke at the people in here that jump at anything, I'm not entirely convinced Griezmann is coming anyway, but i'm not gonna cry about it
Lacazette hasn't joined anyone officially..
Plus, the caption is something Pogba says all the time
EDIT: Ah oui hein
Plus, the caption is something Pogba says all the time
EDIT: Ah oui hein
He is just saying to lacazette once the ban is lifted you take my spot at atleti and i am off to the theater of dreams.
I assume that we wouldn't be buying Griezeman as the main striker (no.9) as Jose seems to prefer a more traditional front man, maybe like a Lukaku? Rather, Griezeman would be used behind a main striker or on one of the flanks?
Obviously signing Griezmann and Lacazette
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