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Antoine Griezmann| Catalunya Radio say Griezmann to Barcelona is done for €100m
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Mata asked to leave because he was a super sub and not an automatic starter. Jose understood this and sold him to the highest bidder.
At MUFC, Jose evaluated his options and is using Mata extensively.
In the case of Griezmann - he basically snubbed us, stating very clearly that his loyalty lies with A.Madrid.
Life is full with what-ifs. It is a gamble but a well calculated one. Soon players of Griezmann's quality will be worth way over 100mil. We must try to sing him in January if Jose still wants him
He has that Madonna 80's look going on.
Jose tried to purchase Pogba while at Chelsea, first thing he did when he started at United was to go after him again.
If true that Antoine decided to stay at Atletico due to the transfer ban, not wanting to screw them over, but he's still interested in joining us, we'll go for him. If he stayed because he doesn't want to join us, then we'll leave it.
We won't sign him in January, Ibra will have a final 6 months then move on to LA.
Griezmann will more than likely be a summer target.
Griezmann will more than likely be a summer target.
Don't know about whole season, but assisted for both of Atletico's goals on wednesday vs Athletic Bilbao, and also scored 2 perfectly legit goals in that game only for one to be ruled offside, and the other had a foul called against Juanfran, i think, before Griezmann struck it in.
Torn between Griezmann and Dybala now. If we can get Dybala from Juventus somehow, I would prefer to go for him. Such and exciting player to watch.
Dybala is very very unlikely to leave Juve, I know anything can happen in football but this kid is a superstar and recently said if he could he would end his career at Juve. Every top club in the world would bid for him.
Griezmann is the most easiest world class player for a 'reasonable' fee considering the hyper inflated market we can get. He is a perfect fit for us, best mates with Pogba, his idol is Becks and I think the #7 is awaiting him next summer, hoping a pre agreement will be signed in January to ward off interest.
I don't consider Dybala an option any more than I consider Messi an option. Griezmann on the other hand is a player we have been consistently linked with and by all accounts would've landed this summer if not for the unique situation at Atletico.
We'd probably have to ask Becks to record a video telling him he looks like a cnut for him to even consider it.
The difference between them is we might actually have a shot at getting Griezmann to come here and could pay his price tag, we have no hope in hell to ever sign Dybala.
It's like saying we should maybe get Neymar or Messi instead.
His hair looks horrible.
Why AG will join:
- 6/10 said he would (generally, 60/40 means more likely 60)
- Atletico plays similar style
- Beckham is his idol (supposedly)
- Brother is a MU fan
- Can adjust to EPL (supposedly)
- Number 7 has not been issued
- Rejected Barca's offer of 125 mil
- Costa could be replacing AG?
- France has a cold climate.
- He views Bale, Messi, and Ronaldo as players he would like to emulate
- Barca and Madrid see potential in AG to replace aging superstars, and can fit him into their team
- 6/10 said he would (if he wanted to join, why not say 8/10 or 9/10?)
- Why play at MU when he can play with the players he wants to shadow?
- Atletico are close to winning CL, and have costa now playing with AG?
- Filmed segment where he hangs up Jose? Was it Jose calling? Was it a sign to Jose that deal is not gonna happen stop trying to reach for it?
- Bale said "EPL is a step down"
- Could be trying to get more money ala most La Liga players when they flirt with EPL?
- La Liga players do not move to EPL due to adjustment cost.
- He may like weather and culture Spain
Why would his loyalties lie with us over Athletico Madrid though?
They made him, he is an A.Madrid player. If he joined us that would be enough loyalty to united to begin with imo.
Do you think Matic was loyal to United last season?
Not saying I think he will come, but if he does, the world cup will be factor - don't think he'd want to take the risk of joining a new club in January due to that, along with other points raised above.
I thought the same about Pogba, yet here we are with Pogba back at the club.
Sure, he will change every other day like a certain Paul.
If the release clause is true then Griezmann would be much easier deal to pull. Barcelona and Madrid would still have a point to prove after letting PSG dominating the transfer window this past summer. Juventus would make a hell for clubs wanting Dybala signature.
Pogba has connection with us and previously shown to be a fan. He knows how England was and seem to be keen here.
Dybala has the air of another South American star prefer warmer weather.
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He wouldn't take a risk at all, he's a superstar in France and one of the players most trusted by Deschamps. Unless he is injured, his starting place at the world cup is pretty much guaranteed (should France qualify)
Dybala makes more sense with Lukaku as he's a creator as well and that suits a pure #9 like Lukaku, where as Griezmann fulfills the same function of scoring goals, but the price tag combined with the fact Dybala is South American probably means it will be Griezmann we buy, unless of course he goes to Bayern.
No way he's joining in January, he'll be cup tied for the CL anyway.
The WC will play a massive part in the transfer window next summer, teams will have from 13th May (end of PL season) - 14th June (WC start date) and 15th July (date of WC final) - 18th August (start of new PL season if it's not pushed back due to WC and pre season) to sign new players due to the new transfer window rule in England. It also depends how well France do but I'd say they make the SF at the least.
I think we will go back in for him and imo, we'll have all our transfers sorted before the start of the WC. Unless of course a player/agent or club wants to wait until after the WC to see if their player flourishes to gain more money.
Feck me he is clinical. Would be absolutely lethal playing off Lukaku.
"Soon worth over £100mil"...?
That is already the case. You would think that they would deman something like £150m for him if it wasn't for his clause.
I am quite confident we will sign him. My only niggling doubt is if Barca come in for him as he may (or may not) prefer to move there. Who knows?
Getting Griezmann at €100m which l think is his buyout clause would be a steal in a world where Coutinho is worth more than €150m.
And here comes sunama with his insight.
AG rejected us because A.Madrid got a transfer ban. His ex agent said the same thing. He got a pay rise for that. His release clause remain the same funnily enough which is cheap considering the rate players go this window. He'll be ours next summer unless we turn our eye to the likes of Dybala instead.
AG rejected us because A.Madrid got a transfer ban. His ex agent said the same thing. He got a pay rise for that. His release clause remain the same funnily enough which is cheap considering the rate players go this window. He'll be ours next summer unless we turn our eye to the likes of Dybala instead.
Hope we get him, unfortunately don't think it will be in Jan.
Even if they have now got Costa there's no chance this move will happen in January. Costa won't have played for over six months, I saw him walking on the TV at Madrid airport and he's put on a bit of weight.
I wonder if Utd would delay Pogbas surgery to where the bulk of his recovery would be during Jan and Feb if they could sign Antoinne on Jan 1st.
Maybe Pauls injury would fast forward the process?
Maybe Pauls injury would fast forward the process?
Surely Pogba is not out for half a year?
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Well seeing as if the news about Paul not needing surgery to recover but possibly needing it long term is true then managing him until the new year would be possible?
Well seeing as if the news about Paul not needing surgery to recover but possibly needing it long term is true then managing him until the new year would be possible?
Wasnt he a United fan too?
I think we got some sort of commitment from him that he'd join us next summer when we spoke with him. Reason being is I think we would've just signed Perisic had Griezmann been non-committal about joining us. Mourinho spoke often adding an attacker. Based off our history post-Sir Alex, I don't think we would've given up on a player we really wanted because of cost.
And the Diego Costa signing means nothing. Nearly every one assumed he was joining Atletico anyway, don't see how that changes anything.
And the Diego Costa signing means nothing. Nearly every one assumed he was joining Atletico anyway, don't see how that changes anything.
The only question if Griez comes, where does he play?
Throwing 200 mil on a player we don't really need is not smart. We still have rb/lb/rm to fix before that.
Throwing 200 mil on a player we don't really need is not smart. We still have rb/lb/rm to fix before that.
He'd be a huge, huge upgrade on Mkhitaryan. In terms if our first XI I'm not sure what other transfer would give us such a significant upgrade.
While that's completely true, I still think our biggest issue is natural width on the left and I don't see any easy solution there. Buy yeah, who wouldn't want Griez here.
I'm sure he has a soft spot for us, but I don't think he's a Utd fan in the sense that he grew up with Utd being his #1 team. From memory he supported Lyon and another French team as his main teams. I do tend to think we're the 'best of the rest' though in his eyes, so with those French teams obviously not being at the top level then we become his preferred destination.
He idolizes Beckham, and he wants to play in the Premier League, so United is his number one choice. I think he fancies playing for Beckham's club rather than actually being a fan of us.
Plus, I am sure his brother would do his best to sway his mind, even though he will obviously make career decisions independently of course. But having family members who are United fans is sure to weigh in on a small fraction of his decision.
That is not to say he will blindly join us. Its' clear he requires confirmation of our project and a clear vision. So far, so good.
Good thing then we won't be throwing 200 mn given the fact that his release clause is £86mn .
There were reports that his release clause went up once the season started
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