Antoine Griezmann| Catalunya Radio say Griezmann to Barcelona is done for €100m

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As much as I think AG appreciates United I think leaving Spain will be a big wrench for him and tbh I think the transfer ban was only half the reason for him calling the move off.

He will be leaving this summer. Most likely to United.
 
I certainly don't think Griezmann is the player some seem to think he is, he's not like Neymar, Hazard, Sanchez etc...his best work is done off the ball.

From when i've watched him, his dribbling ability and speed puts him up there with the great players of today. Sure, he's not the type of player you'll see creating chances for himself out of nothing consistently, but his off the ball work is so good that it enables him to get into those positions to make a difference for his team. In fact, I don't think there's a player better than Griezmann in the modern game at running between the channels and creating space. His positional awareness and judgement is what makes Griezmann a great player rather than a good one.
 
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How's he been this season so far? I've always rated him very highly. But if we're signing him I want him to be at his peak.
 
How's he been this season so far? I've always rated him very highly. But if we're signing him I want him to be at his peak.

Apart from a few games, has been poor by his standards. Atleti way too reliant on him. He will get back to his level as the season goes on though.
 
I certainly don't think Griezmann is the player some seem to think he is, he's not like Neymar, Hazard, Sanchez etc...his best work is done off the ball.
He's definitely nothing like them. He's not phenomenal on the ball, like Hazard (let alone neymar), for example. But his movement, finishing and quick link up play is far better which is why he's out preformed him.

Essentially he's a second striker unlike those players who are wide forwards. Rooney is a good parallel. He's like a Rooney but with less physicality and much more economical and efficient use of his resources, less expansive game and better finishing.
 
He's definitely nothing like them. He's not phenomenal on the ball, like Hazard (let alone neymar), for example. But his movement, finishing and quick link up play is far better which is why he's out preformed him.

Essentially he's a second striker unlike those players who are wide forwards. Rooney is a good parallel. He's like a Rooney but with less physicality and much more economical and efficient use of his resources, less expansive game and better finishing.
He is also a much better dribbler than he is given credit for.
 
He's definitely nothing like them. He's not phenomenal on the ball, like Hazard (let alone neymar), for example. But his movement, finishing and quick link up play is far better which is why he's out preformed him.

Essentially he's a second striker unlike those players who are wide forwards. Rooney is a good parallel. He's like a Rooney but with less physicality and much more economical and efficient use of his resources, less expansive game and better finishing.

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He's definitely nothing like them. He's not phenomenal on the ball, like Hazard (let alone neymar), for example. But his movement, finishing and quick link up play is far better which is why he's out preformed him.

Essentially he's a second striker unlike those players who are wide forwards. Rooney is a good parallel. He's like a Rooney but with less physicality and much more economical and efficient use of his resources, less expansive game and better finishing.

If we get him too, then we are going to have real problems again as far as the balance is concerned. 3 no 10's with a requirement of a quality right winger/forward with the likes of mkh and mata who will be the fan favourite to keep and not get sold because of their abilties with the ball and vision and passing. I doubt MKH can be successfull on the right wing for us, and mata is not a long term answer either.

Will griezmann will be that right wing/ forward remainsto be seen but its not how he 's best utilized.
 
From when i've watched him, his dribbling ability and speed puts him up there with the great players of today. Sure, he's not the type of player you'll see creating chances for himself out of nothing consistently, but his off the ball work is so good that it enables him to get into those positions to make a difference for his team. In fact, I don't think there's a player better than Griezmann in the modern game at running between the channels and creating space. His positional awareness and judgement is what makes Griezmann a great player rather than a good one.

He's like a faster Mata with even better movement and finishing, but doesn't dovetail with the midfield as well and I don't think he's shown much of a knack for dribbling under Simeone, maybe he'd be more expressive here.

He's definitely nothing like them. He's not phenomenal on the ball, like Hazard (let alone neymar), for example. But his movement, finishing and quick link up play is far better which is why he's out preformed him.

Essentially he's a second striker unlike those players who are wide forwards. Rooney is a good parallel. He's like a Rooney but with less physicality and much more economical and efficient use of his resources, less expansive game and better finishing.

That's a great summation of him, I just don't know if theat's what this attack is missing, there's a reason Mata plays so regularly and why Jose isn't using the Martial-Lukaku-Rashford line-up so many want, one of the 3 in behind Lukaku has to offer some control and sync with the midfield, that's not Griezmann and I think Lukaku would suit a more creative player in behind him.
 
He's like a faster Mata with even better movement and finishing, but doesn't dovetail with the midfield as well and I don't think he's shown much of a knack for dribbling under Simeone, maybe he'd be more expressive here.



That's a great summation of him, I just don't know if theat's what this attack is missing, there's a reason Mata plays so regularly and why Jose isn't using the Martial-Lukaku-Rashford line-up so many want, one of the 3 in behind Lukaku has to offer some control and sync with the midfield, that's not Griezmann and I think Lukaku would suit a more creative player in behind him.

Ozil is throwing himself at us.
 
Ozil is throwing himself at us.

Lazy, mentally weak and not worth the wages and signing on fee he'd cost, this team right now has a great hunger in it, all the players are fully committed and the likes of Mata, Herrera and Matic are good older heads to ground the youthful attack, bringing in a guy that downs tools the minute things go wrong would be a mistake IMO.
 
Lazy, mentally weak and not worth the wages and signing on fee he'd cost, this team right now has a great hunger in it, all the players are fully committed and the likes of Mata, Herrera and Matic are good older heads to ground the youthful attack, bringing in a guy that downs tools the minute things go wrong would be a mistake IMO.

He is the only one creative as a no 10, griezmann remains the option in that case, while mkh again have to drift wide which will put mata on the bench. Too much balance problems.
 
He is the only one creative as a no 10, griezmann remains the option in that case, while mkh again have to drift wide which will put mata on the bench. Too much balance problems.

I think Mkhi and Mata moving into squad roles is the way to go anyway.
 
That's a great summation of him, I just don't know if theat's what this attack is missing, there's a reason Mata plays so regularly and why Jose isn't using the Martial-Lukaku-Rashford line-up so many want, one of the 3 in behind Lukaku has to offer some control and sync with the midfield, that's not Griezmann and I think Lukaku would suit a more creative player in behind him.

Its an interesting one really, would Griezmann walk into our team and improve our attack? No doubt. But where to play him? His best position is a SS which means no number 10 which means Mata or Mhki out right for creativity which has been an issue so far, so do we get a more orthodox wide man or inside striker for the right side?

---Martial---Rom---Rashford/New right winger (Sanchez)/Mhki/Mata/
--------Griezmann----------
-------Pogba--Matic---------

OR

---Martial---Rom---Griezmann
--------Mhki/Mata/New no 10------
-------Pogba--Matic---------

Its a tough one, both sides look slightly off balance. The first potentially lacks creativity, the second has Griezmann out of position and potentially somewhat wasted.
 
Jose wanted to play 3-5-2 this year if we signed Perisic and Griezmann so

Lukaku-------Rashford / Martial
------Griezmann
Matic -------- Pogba

flanked by the back 5 seems to be the endgame.
Have we not learned our lesson when questioning Joses targets?
 
They are too good to be playing league cups fa cups and fringe epl matches though, Or else griemann has to play as a right forward.

I think Mata would happily play an Ole role here.

Its an interesting one really, would Griezmann walk into our team and improve our attack? No doubt. But where to play him? His best position is a SS which means no number 10 which means Mata or Mhki out right for creativity which has been an issue so far, so do we get a more orthodox wide man or inside striker for the right side?

---Martial---Rom---Rashford/New right winger (Sanchez)/Mhki/Mata/
--------Griezmann----------
-------Pogba--Matic---------

OR

---Martial---Rom---Griezmann
--------Mhki/Mata/New no 10------
-------Pogba--Matic---------

Its a tough one, both sides look slightly off balance. The first potentially lacks creativity, the second has Griezmann out of position and potentially somewhat wasted.

If we buy Griezmann then ideally we'd want the kind of player that can operate like Eriksen or De Bruyne/Silva do, that can start nominally wide but dirft in and link with the midfield and orchestrate the attack while the other 3 provide the pace and movement.
 
PSG are also see Greizmann as the replacement for Cavani, giving them a front three of Neymar + Mbappe + Greizmann

But I've always felt that Greizmann was holding out for a move to Barcelona.
 
PSG are also see Greizmann as the replacement for Cavani, giving them a front three of Neymar + Mbappe + Greizmann

But I've always felt that Greizmann was holding out for a move to Barcelona.
Surely PSG are somewhat shackled by FFP now?

As for Barcelona, I wonder is it a more tempting proposition with Neymar gone and Suarez and Messi both in their 30s. Could see himself as being their main man in 2/3 years.
 
Would be a shame if so. He was very eager to join us and if it wasn't for the Atleti ban he'd be here.
 
I like Griezmann, but I wouldn't feel that gutted if he did go to PSG or Barca instead. I think there's other players who could become just as good, I'd happily give our Gomes a chance TBH.
 
If we get him too, then we are going to have real problems again as far as the balance is concerned. 3 no 10's with a requirement of a quality right winger/forward with the likes of mkh and mata who will be the fan favourite to keep and not get sold because of their abilties with the ball and vision and passing. I doubt MKH can be successfull on the right wing for us, and mata is not a long term answer either.

Will griezmann will be that right wing/ forward remainsto be seen but its not how he 's best utilized.

Doesn't sound like that much of a problem to me. There will still be rotation needed throughout the season, and we're allowed to sell a player if we have an upgrade. It doesn't change the RW issue but that's a separate thing entirely unless Jose wants him to play there for a while.
 
He won't go to Barcelona. He loves Atletico and has already pretty much said he wouldn't sign for another Spanish team. If he leaves Atleti would be to rather us or PSG but they would need to get rid of Cavani first and rebuild their style of play for him.
 
Let them have him, Griezmann had his chance to come here and he didn't. We should be signing the players that want to be here not chasing the ones who already said no.
 
If people think we will sign Griezmann and play him as a RW you're all nuts. There's no chance he will sign for us without being guaranteed the 10 position.

He will be a disaster at RW.
 
If people think we will sign Griezmann and play him as a RW you're all nuts. There's no chance he will sign for us without being guaranteed the 10 position.

He will be a disaster at RW.
Mata starts at the right wing but he drifts towards the center of the pitch a lot.

This is very typical for Mata. He's basically a free roaming #10. Perfect for Griezou
 
Didn't Di Marzio and his crew come out after the window had closed to basically say Bayern were the front runners for his signature?

Bit of a surprise to me as surely Bayern wouldn't pay his release clause and Atletico wouldn't settle for less than that.
 
Mata starts at the right wing but he drifts towards the center of the pitch a lot.

This is very typical for Mata. He's basically a free roaming #10. Perfect for Griezou

Mata also works very hard up and down the wing, his defensive contribution is underrated.

Griezmann won't want to do that work IMO, there's no chance he leaves his club as the star number 10 to run up and down the wing all day.
 
Mata also works very hard up and down the wing, his defensive contribution is underrated.

Griezmann won't want to do that work IMO, there's no chance he leaves his club as the star number 10 to run up and down the wing all day.
Mata doesn't work very hard up and down the wing. His contribution defensively is perhaps underrated, but it's still not very good. He certainly doesn't run up and down the wing like Willian. Griezmann does work hard defensively as well as offensively for Atletico, and I'm sure he'd do the same for United. Which means that the defensive contribution from that part of the pitch wouldn't be very weakened, if weakened at all, if we were to replace Mata with Griezmann.
 
He's not going to Barca, its the easiest story in the world to write.
Do people remember project Griezmann last year when everybody reported Madrid were definitely after him and everything was agreed for next summer?
Until Griezmann rubbished the rumours himself.
We haven't left the 7 shirt vacant just in case...
 
Again I think its more than just the ban
Always thought that too, he flirted with the idea of joining us. Big profile move, huge wage increase and his mate Pogba here. I always thought it was strange that he signed a new contract, with a wage increase with the same buy out clause returning after the window closed. Him saying he will be there for the season, refusing long term commitment but he was being loyal because of the transfer ban? He had one foot in and the other out, he's keeping his options open. I've always said that he was never convinced and wanted it enough. Could be proved wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at barca in the summer.
 
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