Anthony Martial

What do think of the (supposedly) imminent signing of Anthony Martial?

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This is lazy stuff from the club doing business this late in the window.

All this talk of us waiting on Monaco CL Qualification is probably leak from us to save our face on what looks like a panic buy. What would have happened if Monaco did qualify for the CL?. We would have missed out and start the season with one recognized striker?.
 
Spoony said:
Right, I've been thinking of this transfer for the past 23 mins and I've decided Martial is going to tear up the Prem. I'm not saying he's as good as the teenage Pele but he's not far off.

I'm well and truly a Martialist.
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He's very versatile too. Got diverse skills. You could say he's a mixed Martial...

No, that's terrible. Sorry.
 
bleedred said:
This is lazy stuff from the club doing business this late in the window.

All this talk of us waiting on Monaco CL Qualification is probably leak from us to save our face on what looks like a panic buy. What would have happened if Monaco did qualify for the CL?. We would have missed out and start the season with one recognized striker?.
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of course its a panic buy

just like the last two windows when we have left it late

But we still need a striker at the end of the day...
 
bleedred said:
This is lazy stuff from the club doing business this late in the window.

All this talk of us waiting on Monaco CL Qualification is probably leak from us to save our face on what looks like a panic buy. What would have happened if Monaco did qualify for the CL?. We would have missed out and start the season with one recognized striker?.
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You are misinterpreting, no one waited for the CL Qualification, it's just that before that he wasn't for sale, the CL elimination just became an opportunity to tempt Monaco.
 
I feel there isnt an option in the poll for me

I am excited to see what he can do and hope he is amazing, but we are totally getting ripped and its massive risk
 
We really do get fecked when it comes transfers, don't we? I understand Martial is a player with massive potential, but that's all it is for now. He's hasn't really proven himself at the highest level yet, therefore I don't know why the fee is so high.

Having said that, at 19, if he does become a success here, it'd probably turn out to be a bargain. Its a risk, but without risk there's no growth.

I can only recall watching him once against Arsenal. Had a really good game and was a constant threat with his pace and movement off the ball, which is something we lack on the right wing, where I expect him to play. However, according to a number of sites, he's pretty versatile and can play across the front three. We could see:

Rooney
Memphis - Herrera - Martial

Rooney
Memphis - Martial - Mata

Rooney
Martial - Herrera - Mata

Martial
Memphis - Rooney - Mata

Hopefully we see the top one more often than not, because we really lack pace and unpredictability on the right.

I am excited with the transfer, though. Not a big fan of comparisons, but to be dubbed as 'the new Henry' can't be bad.
 
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Pogue Mahone said:
Is that good? If so, he's worth every penny. If not, Woody has to go.
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Better than Ibra, on par with Aguero and Suarez..

All joking aside, he's a terrific prospect. I just think the fee is way too high (obviously) and United was in more need for an established striker who could make an immediate impact, rather than a promising youngster who'll probably need some time to adapt.
 
izec said:
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So thats how it works? The bad press again, all against City. They love to mention it, because it was ridiculous at times. So many overpaid flops there. And they like to do it for everybody, not just for City. There are tons of journos having an agenda against United, just look the tweets from the last few days.

Plus Monaco arent driving a hard bargain, nah, they will sell him on the cheap, a day before deadline day.
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Where did I mention the press were against City? I said they love to mention how much money we spend, that does not mean there is some huge agenda against City. There's a difference as well, City had a pressing need for a player like Sterling and a homegrown English one and were dealing with a rival side, that put a premium on the player. For Martial there is no reason at all United should be overpaying this much as there should be plenty of other options out there. It's the club own fault a deal is having to take place so close to the deadline.
 
Pretty sure we weren't really looking into signing him as a bench warmer that will not even grace the pitch until January. Martial himself probably wouldn't even want it either. He's still young.

Anyway, like others have mentioned it, nobody will even mention the fee in a month's time if he proves himself. He is only 19 years old as well, with loads of potential that may prove later on to be a bargain for United. The only thing I find strange is the fee inflation, from what Tottenham reportedly were asked to pay for him last month (30M euros?) to what his reported price tag is now. How low was he in your transfer list to leave it till the last minute?
 
JPRouve said:
You are misinterpreting, no one waited for the CL Qualification, it's just that before that he wasn't for sale, the CL elimination just became an opportunity to tempt Monaco.
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What's the difference, what if they qualified?. He would have been unavailable then, right?. Going by that logic.
 
bleedred said:
This is lazy stuff from the club doing business this late in the window.

All this talk of us waiting on Monaco CL Qualification is probably leak from us to save our face on what looks like a panic buy. What would have happened if Monaco did qualify for the CL?. We would have missed out and start the season with one recognized striker?.
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Randall Flagg said:
of course its a panic buy

just like the last two windows when we have left it late

But we still need a striker at the end of the day...
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How is this a panic buy? Because it's done on the last (or 2nd last) day of the transfer window? Panic buying would mean buying someone to come in and make an immediate impact because you don't think you are anywhere near your target for the season. That would mean buying an established star for way over the market value. £36m on a 19yr old is nothing these days and while he made go into the side as a starter the purchase is as much about the future as it is this season.

GlastonSpur said:
I've cited a widely reported figure for Martial and described it as mind boggling. Don't you also find it astonishing? If not, then you could explain why.

I'm not responsible for the vast sums of money that United have spent in net terms on additions to your last title-winning squad. United have plenty of money, you've earned all of it, are entitled to spend it and you've chosen to spend it in the ways that you have. I happen to think that the bang you've gotten for your buck is minimal, verging on criminal. That's my opinion and I can't help it if you don't like it.
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£36m for a 19 year old - criminal? I guess you missed the last few transfer windows then?
 
RobinLFC said:
Better than Ibra, on par with Aguero and Suarez..

All joking aside, he's a terrific prospect. I just think the fee is way too high (obviously) and United was in more need for an established striker who could make an immediate impact, rather than a promising youngster who'll probably need some time to adapt.
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Yeah, agree with that last bit. Still pleased though.
 
This is just something I've been thinking about plenty lately:

We're a rich club, just about the biggest turnover of the lot, etc. But we do have disadvantages when competing for players with the Spanish giants - and even the London based English clubs.

So, for my (or rather the Glazers') money, we need to find a niche of some kind - a way to use our wealth intelligently, if you will. Paying shitloads for talents of this lad's ilk is one way to go. It actually is. Wenger had the right idea back in the day, but we are able to pursue a similar scheme on a higher level than Arsenal were - because we're feckin' loaded.

We need to buy shrewdly, of course - we can't splash this kind of money on random talents. But we can use our financial muscles to secure genuine talents/top targets that other clubs aren't willing/able to dish out that much money for. We can, in a word, outmuscle the competition when it comes to a certain category of players. And I, for one, would MUCH rather we tried this than any sort of Galactico replica.
 
36m is not too bad of a fee for a player with lots of potential in this day and age, it probably has add on included. 58m i am not to sure about, all the English press are reporting 36m, why would they be reporting that figure and not 58m, surely they it will be more sensationalist to report the higher, were it too be true. 58m probably includes wages which would be around 100k p/w for 4 years.
 
fcbforever said:
He was like 20 Million € less, is English and had a way better first season. This kind of money for Martial is mental and there's no point denying it. Its a huge gamble, you can afford a gamble, but its a gamble nonetheless. There's a big chance he will never be worth this kind of money again.
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Everything in life is a gamble. Only difference is can you afford it or not.
 
He's quite good from what little I've seen him in the CL and can cause trouble with sheer pace alone but he will be frustrating as heck with misplacing the weight on his end ball and passing, a lot like Ronaldo of his early years. Will follow up a ton of million dollar moves with 10 cent finishes.
 
I think they're making us pay the Falcao fee that we promised them. This kid costs £18m + the £40 for Falcao.
 
GeneralGattuso said:
How is this a panic buy? Because it's done on the last (or 2nd last) day of the transfer window? Panic buying would mean buying someone to come in and make an immediate impact because you don't think you are anywhere near your target for the season. That would mean buying an established star for way over the market value. £36m on a 19yr old is nothing these days and while he made go into the side as a starter the purchase is as much about the future as it is this season.
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So, we have been (probably) on the look out for a attacking player all the window, having lost Falcao,RVP and Di Maria and on the last day of the window, we end up with no one but a unknown 19 year old. I don't care about the money. If he was one for the future, why now, rather than early in the window. And I don't believe the BS that Monaco missing CL was the opportunity for us to sign. What if they did qualify, we would have ended up with no other striker?

The reason I call this panic buy is because we have been looking for a striker all through the window and we just ended up with Martial and no other option this late in the window.
 
FreakyJim said:
I think they're making us pay the Falcao fee that we promised them. This kid costs £18m + the £40 for Falcao.
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What do you mean 'the fee we promised them' for Falcao? What fee?
 
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