Anthony Martial

What do think of the (supposedly) imminent signing of Anthony Martial?

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Kraftwerker said:
Bless the rival fans who come on here quoting the absolute highest fee being reported and voicing their concern at our spending.

City fans included. Couldn't make it up. :lol:
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Concern? I also saw another poster use the word 'annoyed'. Those really aren't the words you're looking for. The laughing green smiley you ended your post with would be more appropriate.
 
RobinLFC said:
Yes I never disagreed with that, Griezmann would've been a far better option if you ask me, but I was merely pointing out he's probably unattainable at this moment.

I am annoyed that United gets a highly rated striker though, no matter how crazy the fee might be. It'll be funny to laugh at if he should flop, but it will be forgotten very fast if he bags the necessary goals or fires you to a trophy (which I doubt he'll do in the nearby future but still).
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Fair enough, I wasn't talking about this very instant wrt Griezmann. Moreso the whole window in general, our attacking problems are well documented, and ideally any additions should not have been left upto the last day of the window, with little time left to maneuver or negotiate with the selling club. Been fairly patient with the transfer dealings thus far including last season, but this one in particular just seems a bit odd and ill-planned. Ah well, the moving finger writes; and having writ, moves on. All United supporters can do now is hope that he does well to justify the fee, which in part reflects how highly Van Gaal must rate him.
 
tigervision7 said:
This signing kind of feels like Darmian to me. A player that isnt widely known and is very highly rated by everyone who knows him. Sure its an astronomical fee. But that is to be expected on deadline day. Those saying that we could have had Kane or Griezmann for that money are dreaming. Neither Atletico nor Spurs would sell their primary goalscorer on deadline day for anything less than twice that amount.
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Greizmann has a buy out of 85m so it's all possible with him, maybe not for Kane though would prefer Martial to him.
 
FreakyJim said:
23min?

I instantly decided he's the next Henry. He will be amazing, and look at that price too - 30mil for such an amazing talent. No wonder Glaston is having a heart attack.
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Ahh you've get better potential spotting skills than I have. Look, we've spunked £40m on a 19 year old who's never played in England, I think it's fair to say LVG thinks Kane's a hack, otherwise we'd have taken him off Levy's hands.
 
NinjaFletch said:
No one pays the tax.

You've joined a conversation half way through.

The concept of paying huge amount of tax on buyout clauses is a completely made up theory which only has some sort of credence because it sounds sorta believable.
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It may not be enforcable as such but the club does not have to accept any bids from a rival club as there is no release clause. This means an arrangement has to be sought with the player to come up with the money and some arrangement at least for additional fees on top. Griezmann does not even want to move. It simply won't happen, and if there was a chance it would cost the buying club more than the buyout even if it's only the lefal fees on top (and they would be substantial enough). Bayern had to pay over Martinez' buyout and he is just about the only relevant example. Herrera pushed Athletic to smooth his deal over (and that cost more than the buyout too).
 
Striker10 said:
The fact is Spurs wouldn't be able to get the player but certainly if they did, they wouldn't have to pay what United would have to pay. That's just a fact. Our market isn't Spurs matket and if it were? They'd ask more from United. Just like United wouldn't have got Sterling for what City did. In fact we wouldn't have got him at all as clubs Liverpool are petty but clubs know how rich we are.
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Yeah, this. We'd have to pay the United tax, if the Sun reports that Spurs were offered him for 20m were true at all. So far only sources like the express, metro and sun are reporting that. I'm guessing we didn't want to dally and let another club swoop in and steal another target this time so we might have overpayed a couple mil.
 
BobbyManc said:
Concern? I also saw another poster use the word 'annoyed'. Those really aren't the words you're looking for. The laughing green smiley you ended your post with would be more appropriate.
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Yeah just like how we laughed at you lot for spending £32M+ on Mangala expect most of us didn't go onto a City forum to do it. :)
 
GlastonSpur said:
Actually even the base figure of £36m would be £23m more than the £13m base figure paid for Soldado. And the £58m with potential add-ons would be £32m more than Soldado's equivalent.

You say that £58m is nonsense, but there are plenty of reports to the contrary.
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£13m for Soldado. :lol:

£58m is a few sources. Probably based upon us winning league and CL with him instrumental to it numerous times. If that happens then he will have been worth it.
 
Spoony said:
Ahh you've get better potential spotting skills than I have. Look, we've spunked £40m on a 19 year old who's never played in England, I think it's fair to say LVG thinks Kane's a hack, otherwise we'd have taken him off Levy's hands.
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And he's right. A one season wonder if I ever saw one. I bet Kane doesn't score more than 10 goals this season, cups included.
 
It's certainly a lot of money. Still, at least everyone seems to agree he has a massive amount of potential and we are a bit desperate for options in attack ...

So yay I guess?
 
£36m for a 19 yr old with a load of potential? We just paid something like £30m for Memphis and he's 21 so it's not exactly breaking the mold. There is speculation that there are addons making it much higher, but they're just rumours and if he meets those supposed addon clauses then we will have bought ourselves a world class player at 19 years of age - is that really a bad thing?

I like this buy, one who could help now but should be even better in the future like Memphis. Can't claim this is a panic buy, a panic buy would be going out and spending £40-50m on 30 year old.
 
Signing a top prospect is exciting nonetheless. £36m is a huge fee and will put pressure on him to deliver but he might have been the best available forward for us at the minute and we're doing well to be bringing him here. I said only last week that I liked the idea of bringing someone like Martial or Lacazette and was baffled by our inactivity in doing so, I cannot complain now.
 
GeneralGattuso said:
£36m for a 19 yr old with a load of potential? We just paid something like £30m for Memphis and he's 21 so it's not exactly breaking the mold. There is speculation that there are addons making it much higher, but they're just rumours and if he meets those supposed addon clauses then we will have bought ourselves a world class player at 19 years of age - is that really a bad thing?

I like this buy, one who could help now but should be even better in the future like Memphis. Can't claim this is a panic buy, a panic buy would be going out and spending £40-50m on 30 year old.
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Memphis cost £21m and was much more proven. Didn't come from a rich club in a good league though.

Agree that it's more reasonable to spend £36m on a 19-year old who will go years if proven successful than £36m on Falcao for example.
 
Look, it is not my money, but that is alot regardless. I still have no idea why we would pay more for this guy then Pedro, but as we have I am hoping this guy is plenty good.

Assuming he is we now have some options. We can hope Mata is moved to the 10 now and/or Rooney gets subbed occasionally.
 
If he's great I can say "Of course he's great, he cost 90 million euros". If he flops I can say "jesus, you paid 100 million euros for that"?

Being serious, I know we've reportedly been tracking him for a while now.
 
BobbyManc said:
That's entirely untrue, the press love nothing more than mentioning how much City have spent and how much each individual player cost. Sterling was English and proven in the Premier League and had a good showing at the World Cup, Liverpool were always going to drive a hard bargain for him knowing City's need and want for him. Sterling's price ultimately did not surprise many people. This absurd fee for Martial has come out of nowhere.
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:lol:

So thats how it works? The bad press again, all against City. They love to mention it, because it was ridiculous at times. So many overpaid flops there. And they like to do it for everybody, not just for City. There are tons of journos having an agenda against United, just look the tweets from the last few days.

Plus Monaco arent driving a hard bargain, nah, they will sell him on the cheap, a day before deadline day.
 
Bloxy said:
Why the feck are you here exactly? Seems you like to wind people up.
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I've cited a widely reported figure for Martial and described it as mind boggling. Don't you also find it astonishing? If not, then you could explain why.

I'm not responsible for the vast sums of money that United have spent in net terms on additions to your last title-winning squad. United have plenty of money, you've earned all of it, are entitled to spend it and you've chosen to spend it in the ways that you have. I happen to think that the bang you've gotten for your buck is minimal, verging on criminal. That's my opinion and I can't help it if you don't like it.
 
Meanwhile in the Bayern scouting office

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Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, bit weird having a poll where the honest answer for the vast majority of people isn't an option. I don't think I'd even heard of him a week ago.
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His overall rating in my FIFA career is 89 after three years, so there's that.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Why can't he rate the lad highly? Supposedly Barca have also tried to sign him. Maybe they're his cousins.
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If Barcelona where really in for him, Im sure they`d have signed him by now, im sure barcelona look at hundreds of players so this is no indicator of anything. And if they where in for him, Im sure they`d get him for around 15mill, they only pay huge amounts for the top 5 best players in the world, the rest of their signings are done at pretty respectable and decent fees, like getting Rakitic who was one of the best players in La liga that year for 16mill. And thats why they are such a strong team now, and look to be for the foreseeable future
 
Spoony said:
Right, I've been thinking of this transfer for the past 23 mins and I've decided Martial is going to tear up the Prem. I'm not saying he's as good as the teenage Pele but he's not far off.

I'm well and truly a Martialist.
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Totally convinced by this 23 minutes is enough in my mind
 
I suppose there is the 'Who?' option but most people have heard of him, just don't really know how good he is or might become.
 
sincher said:
It may not be enforcable as such but the club does not have to accept any bids from a rival club as there is no release clause. This means an arrangement has to be sought with the player to come up with the money and some arrangement at least for additional fees on top. Griezmann does not even want to move. It simply won't happen, and if there was a chance it would cost the buying club more than the buyout even if it's only the lefal fees on top (and they would be substantial enough). Bayern had to pay over Martinez' buyout and he is just about the only relevant example. Herrera pushed Athletic to smooth his deal over (and that cost more than the buyout too).
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Perhaps 'not a penny more' was an exaggeration, but I was countering the ludicrous suggestion we'd pay anywhere close to 52% tax on a deal.

I agree it's not going to happen, mostly caus I don't think we even want him, but hypothetically its doable.
 
roykeane19 said:
If Barcelona where really in for him, Im sure they`d have signed him by now, im sure barcelona look at hundreds of players so this is no indicator of anything. And if they where in for him, Im sure they`d get him for around 15mill, they only pay huge amounts for the top 5 best players in the world, the rest of their signings are done at pretty respectable and decent fees, like getting Rakitic who was one of the best players in La liga that year for 16mill. And thats why they are such a strong team now, and look to be for the foreseeable future
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Okay. He's shit because we want him and Barca being interested means nothing. I catch your drift.
 
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