It was an odd one today, he looked up for it but he was so sloppy in all aspects of his play.
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It's insulting to compare the 2 honestly.
I think some forget just how good Nani was for us from 2010 to 2012.
His game just isn’t developing. He’s more one dimensional than he’s ever been. He needs to stay wide and attack the left flank at times. Defenders know how to defend against him by just supporting the full back to not let him cut inside. It’s all too predictable and is becoming less and less effective.
Not good today. I don't mind him taking players on and losing the ball, that's part of the risk. But when he fails to complete some simple passes it's very frustrating to watch.
He is basically our Nani. Will never go to the next level no matter what.
Nani was better.
He's not wrong. He's still more dangerous than Lingard or Mata. And we need to score.
Did he play against PSG?
Yeah, sorry. I'm in the wrong here. Sad that Martial hasn't developed from that incredible 19 year old that displayed so much ability in 2015/16.
That's an insult to Nani. I can bet all I have that Martial will never put as good season here as Nani's 2010/2011.
Rashford is also in shocking form... Lukaku's form is poor... Martial deserves a crack at Barca.
Comparing Martial to Nani 
Nani is an average forward/striker. And Martial is an average winger. What kind of useless conparison is this? Martial is only playing winger because there's no other options .
Nani is an average forward/striker. And Martial is an average winger. What kind of useless conparison is this? Martial is only playing winger because there's no other options .
I've seen him play like that before and someone described it as great on here.
Neither are or were average.Comparing Martial to Nani
Nani is an average forward/striker. And Martial is an average winger. What kind of useless conparison is this? Martial is only playing winger because there's no other options .
Comparing Martial to Nani
Nani is an average forward/striker. And Martial is an average winger. What kind of useless conparison is this? Martial is only playing winger because there's no other options .
When did you see him playing regularly as a striker to conclude he'll be better there ? I remember people were fully convinced when Rooney would play as a striker or number 10 he'll be great again.
Martial deserves nothing.
Martial could take a dump on the pitch and some would describe it as great on here. One of the favourite reviews on here is that 'he was the only one trying to make things happen'.
Only in this thread will failing 5 dribbles in a row be considered a good thing.
Haha no need for sarcasm, and he wasn't incredible when he joined or since then. I just have the opinion he has talent but isn't developing for whatever reason.
Ah I see. Because we won against PSG without him (when he wasn't available) we shouldn't start him against Barca. What brilliant logic.
We also won without Pogba maybe we shouldn't start him either, throw Pereira on.
Nah, no sarcasm. I overreacted originally.
Righto. Well, I reckon he will anyway, and I reckon he'll play well too.
His play style is nothing similar to Nani. Nani could cross with both feet, shoot from distance, go inside/outside and link up with his fullback.. god knows how wasteful he will have been in further advanced position.
Martial mainly plays inside, short one two and receive the return in the box for finishing. Basically nothing special for wingers- he's merely filling a spot nothing more. I did saw some stats that his xG was 6 this season but he got 10 placing him in the higher category for clinical strikers in the league. The problem is actually the regression of the football even more than the position. When we started the whole front three was interchanging position and linking up well then the fluidity stopped after the injury crisis and we went back to static and rigid football.
Champions League winner and European Championships winner, too. Nani's career will go down as very successful.
You didn't answer my question. Where did you watch him play as a striker regularly to conclude he'll be better ?
Nani was a miles better player and is one of the most under appreciated United players of all time.
On his day, he was untouchable.
On his day, he was untouchable.
And where did I say there's a conclusion? Nobody knows the final conclusion I only saw his playing style and highligted the difference between him and the nani comparisons.
You said he's an average winger and playing there only because there's no other option even though he spent his entire United career so far playing there and all his great performance were on the left. Literally, literally, no reason to believe he'll change if he moves to central, except assumptions only.
But he's never really been a winger, he's an inside forward that comes from the left side. That's what he was at Monaco, and that's what he was his first season here with the #9 and being the team's highest goalscorer at 19 in a new league. Regardless, right now his issue is confidence IMO more than anything. The way he played today was typical of someone with very little self-belief. He didn't want to take anybody on, he took ages to make a decision before the defender bailed him out with a foul for the penalty, he's just looking really out of sorts and far from his best. A confident Martial is someone who can do things pretty much nobody but Pogba can on this team.
Why does he have a very little self belief currently ? Isn't he playing regularly whenever he's fit under a lovely manager who supports his players ? Why will confidence be shaken ?
Your guess is as good as mine, could be off the field issues, maybe he can't get it up? I don't know...there's literally a million reasons why a young man can lose confidence. But he certainly looks devoid of it these last few months.
Can't really find any reason for him to lose confidence at the moment. Honestly I feel "losing confidence" is an excused that has been used a lot for Martial those last 3 years.
I just don't think he is that good tbh, flashes of talent but nothing amazing.
These people are an embarrassment. They've watched some fantastic attackers here over the years and they worship some garbage performances from the current lot.
I find it baffling that a fan base who disliked a player like Nani so much that 'the new Nani' has become a perjorative term for players like Depay are so forgiving of Martial's faults.
He's a million miles away from the player that some seem to think he is and he's absolutely atrocious at basic aspects of the game. At this stage in his career if he's not showing signs of improving faults that he has I'm not sure he ever will.
He's a million miles away from the player that some seem to think he is and he's absolutely atrocious at basic aspects of the game. At this stage in his career if he's not showing signs of improving faults that he has I'm not sure he ever will.
I think he has the natural talent to be an Henry level forward but he has the mentality of Anelka.
He’s been very underwhelming recently. I expected him to destroy an aging zabaleta today but he just never even tried.
Unfortunately I just don’t think he has the match intelligence required to be top class.
He’s got so much ability he doesn’t use for 80% of games, if only he had an inner fire to be the best he really could be. He really needs to work on his left foot also.
Unfortunately I just don’t think he has the match intelligence required to be top class.
He’s got so much ability he doesn’t use for 80% of games, if only he had an inner fire to be the best he really could be. He really needs to work on his left foot also.
It's not really an excuse, as a professional athlete you're in charge of your mental game as well as your physical shape. In the past, it has been somewhat of a warranted excuse as he was given a very short leash by Mourinho and when he was finally given a chance, both this season and last, he played well and statistically was very impactful with his time on the field. This time, it's not quite as valid because Ole has given him plenty of chances and he is simply not taking them.
I've never seen a player so slow to get a shot off.
Massively overrated on here and always has been. Only finally being found out by some.
Massively overrated on here and always has been. Only finally being found out by some.
He rarely tries to use his pace to go by a player which is frustrating. He slows down and then tries to come inside. When he did run at the defenders today the whole ground got excited. I dont know what Oles direction is for him but it's not about using his pace to get in behind defensive lines.
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