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Can you please comment without that 'making things up' line? Why would I want to make anything up? It's my observation. Both players have come into games and made significant impacts. If you think otherwise, that's fine with me. We see differently. Does it mean that if they both start games they wouldn't make the same impact or even more? No. But we can only speculate that. What I have seen in reality so far is that they have both done incredibly well as super subs in games this season.
Your claim was the following "Could be but the reality is that their substitutions have led to changes in the way we were approaching games"
How did we change our approach to say the Everton match, or the Swansea match, can you give us an example ? Maybe a comparison to last season
I guess the irony is lost on that one, particularly considering that's all you've been coming out with.
Not sure why we would leave out the games in other competitions when talking about playing time. Are those Manchester United games? Games that are important for us to win? So why does there seem to be this need to discount playing time in those games?
I always love the discussion about "being fairly treated" this is not youth football, this is Manchester United, the manager should play who he feels gives us the best chance to win on any given occasion, taking into account the long season, multiple competitions, injuries, suspensions, etc.
It's a long season that we have only just begun, let's see where things take us.
I always love the discussion about "being fairly treated" this is not youth football, this is Manchester United, the manager should play who he feels gives us the best chance to win on any given occasion, taking into account the long season, multiple competitions, injuries, suspensions, etc.
It's a long season that we have only just begun, let's see where things take us.
Impossible, we all know that when a player is not getting as much time as another player it clearly means the manager hates that player.
That's a strange claim
Where has this claim been made ?
It's early in the season yet isn't it, a bit silly to talk about chances over time.
So far as in his career under Mourinho.
I think a good case can be made that we have tried to increase leads this season rather hold on to what we have. That would be a big difference compared to last season when we saw so many points dropped in draws. This year Martial has typically been one of the first players off the bench in those situations, rather than Fellaini or Carrick.
You've been subtle but we can all see what you are getting at with your complaints about Jose not playing him. We are off to a great start and all you seem to want to do is whine about Martial not playing and complain about Jose, it's very odd, Thomas.
Now on to performances, Rashford and Martial have both been outstanding this season. As have Lukaku and Mkhi and Mata. So obviously there is going to be pressure for playing time over the course of the season, which is what we all want. Martial seems inspired so far, long may it continue.
Why are you making so many false claims ?
I thought you reckoned that Mourinho was leaving after 3 years and Martial was going next year. Do you have a direct link to United?
I just think it's funny how people make all sorts of statements as if they have personally spoken to the manager or players concerned. They seem to know what they are thinking or why they have followed a course of action, which tbf is quite impressive really.
I find it somewhat difficult to believe that Mourinho, due to Rashford and Martial, has suddenly decided to change approach in terms of attacking instead of defending narrow leads, though it remains to be seen over time.
If Jose really wanted to sell him, he would not be wasting his time on him. The moment he realised Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Depay were not in his plan, he stopped giving them minutes. Jose has time and time said Martial has all the talents, he just needs to be consistent. Let us not bring a conspiracy theory w here there is none. Martial is here to stay and become a world beater.
i've been saying that Mourinho will maximum stay 3 seasons ever since he signed his contract, simply because of his history at all his other clubs. I'm not sure why people find it more likely that he will stay a longer period of time.
I'm not sure why everyone is so bothered about what players and managers say
Are you drunk? This is a very strange series of posts telling people they are guessing things when you're predicting things 18 months in advance
More energy, more creativity, more danger.
The same way substitutions (by their very nature) lead to changes in the way games are approach?
Against Swansea we needed a second goal yo be comfortable. 73rd minute Jose subs. Martial and Fellaini join the party. Fellain adds stability to the middle, Martial starts his trademark runs that give defenders problems. He is involved in the second goal and later scores one himself.
I was not referring to last season. I meant this season's games.
Again, we obviously see differently and that's fine.
36 months in advance to be fair
Approach to the game = before the match starts and the tactics employed to begin with.
In terms of substitutions, it's not like he only made defensive substitutions last season when we were leading by a goal. Against Everton his preferred option was to balanse the midfield when we were 1 goal up. It barely proves a pattern.
What's interesting is if we sit back, hold on to the ball longer etc when we have a narrow lead, or if we keep pushing high up the pitch
Of course you do. The bloke is the Anti-Christ according to you.
Jeez, what kind of comment is that. There has been very little suggestion that Martial will be sold. Yes it is true Jose has not shown same appreciation to Martial like to Fellaini but that does not mean he will be sold. How can you say it does not matter what Jose says, again if Jose did want to sell him, why would he praise him or given him even this amount of chances. He may not start against Soton, but he will play against CSKA, which is also an important game.
Nah, i was hoping we'd hire him when we were daft enough to go after Moyes.
I've already accounted for my reasons as to why i believe Martial will move on to another club, feel free to quote them and disagree with them.
If he doesn't start against Southampton, it's just more foundation for my claim.
Rashford was a disaster against Everton, if Martial had performed similarly, do you think he'd be given consecutive starts ?
Especially since it's Mourinho.
Why ?
Cause he hates everything and everyone.
Well if Thats What you want to beliebe
Who says it has to be down solely to Rashford and Martial? You are refusing to accept that things can and do change. None of this occurs in a vacuum. Mourinho's attitude to and usage of Rashford and Martial is likely influenced by a number of factors including the other players we have, how they're playing, the form of the team, the opposition, etc, etc. All the evidence to date this season suggests he's more open to using them as complementary weapons and that he's pleased with the results.
To be so sure that that's impossible - well, it's a bit odd.
The season is 5 game old and you have already made up your mind. Atleast wait till december before making such bold claims
Martial and Rashford will play in many games. I guess Martial will start at least in 25.
Why not answer my question ?
Ha ha, this guy is definitely on a windup! 
Answer what? To your baseless assumptions. You are speaking like a representative of sun or metro. Wasn't martial supposed to be gone this summer itself , yet he is here scoring goals. Jose praises him and you say don't trust the manager. Why should we trust your baseless assumptions.
Maybe jose rates rashford more than martial but that does not mean he will sell martial , he has specifically pointed how extremely pleased he us with martial but yet you say why should we trust the manager. Your logic is flawed.
Well he does hate Martial, that's for sure.
This has been debunked so many times on this forum its not funny anymore. Im not walking another person through this myth.
What a thread
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