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2017-18 Performances


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45
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11
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Great attitude, great player to watch when he plays like this. Keep it up tony!
 
Nice to see him get a goal and an assist, though West Ham had long given up by that stage.
 
Great cameo!
Hope he can show this more often this season. He has it all to be one of the very best attacking players in the world. He has already proven what he can do for us in his first season and I really hope he can get back there. No need for Perisic (regardless I don't rate him anyway) for me since we have Rash & Martial to play there. We should rather give them time to develop as both are more talented in their left toe than Perisic in his whole body.
 
This is how it should be, he & Rashford pushing each other as hard as possible for that position.

No more fecking Lingard in that position please.

I am a fan of Martial but I don't really complain when Rashford gets minutes ahead of him. He has shown huge potential as well and deserves his chances. Like you, it's Lingard getting starts there that makes me boil.

He looks no different than normal. Ice cold.

Yep. Typical Martial.
 
He's too good to leave out, but I can understand the headache Jose has.

Surprisingly though, Jose has been in the market for a LW in Perisic. Which would make it really awkward for both Martial and Rashford unless we switch to a 2 striker formation.
 
Rapid. Shame him and rashford are so similar. Its one or the other starting for me.
I disagree that they are similar, at least to an extent. Can they play in similar positions? Sure. But at this point Rashford clearly provides the greater benefit off the wing, while Martial is the better secondary striker imho. Rashford seems better in cutting the defense wide open from the sides but imho lacks the positioning of Martial. Rashford brings a better constant threat - Martial is the more intelligent player at this point, his movement is great and he doesn't get caught by the offside trap nearly as much as Rashford is. Martial's biggest weakness by far is his selfishness on the ball - but if today is any indicator he has worked on that a lot in training. We truly have a luxury problem imho.
 
Already equalled Lingard's league tally last season... In all seriousness that was as good a cameo as he could have hoped for, kid has ice in his veins and absolutely deserves to start v Swansea.
 
Already equalled Lingard's league tally last season... In all seriousness that was as good a cameo as he could have hoped for, kid has ice in his veins and absolutely deserves to start v Swansea.
Mental isn't it. The difference in quality is staggering. Hopefully he kicks on now.
 
Surprisingly though, Jose has been in the market for a LW in Perisic. Which would make it really awkward for both Martial and Rashford unless we switch to a 2 striker formation.

Look at it the other way, if Martial and Rashford both play well, it'll look very awkward for Perisic. On form both of them will play ahead of him.
I'd say Jose has to cover all bases, Lakuku gets injured and we've got 2 players with no cover upfront and out on the left. We need a strong squad to compete in the league and champions league.
 
It's not funny anymore how much more talent Martial has than Lingard.
 
I disagree that they are similar, at least to an extent. Can they play in similar positions? Sure. But at this point Rashford clearly provides the greater benefit off the wing, while Martial is the better secondary striker imho. Rashford seems better in cutting the defense wide open from the sides but imho lacks the positioning of Martial. Rashford brings a better constant threat - Martial is the more intelligent player at this point, his movement is great and he doesn't get caught by the offside trap nearly as much as Rashford is. Martial's biggest weakness by far is his selfishness on the ball - but if today is any indicator he has worked on that a lot in training. We truly have a luxury problem imho.
Have to say the opposite to tbh. Martial is far better with the ball at his feet cutting in, whereas Rashford is better as a poacher and better positionally.
For me, Martial is the better player and should be playing ahead of Rashford. He's quite a lot better IMO.
 
Just see what he does when he's not surrounded by players!
Incredible talent, who'll go down in the history books at this club!

West Ham afforded him way too much space. Lakuku is such a fantastic threat, he takes up 2 defenders allowing our other players a lot more freedom. I'm hoping we don't resign Ibra as shoehorning him into this team would be detrimental.
 
Surprisingly though, Jose has been in the market for a LW in Perisic. Which would make it really awkward for both Martial and Rashford unless we switch to a 2 striker formation.

I don't know anything about Perisic but I've seen some say on here that he'd make a fine left wing-back. Which would enable a 5-3-2, thus solving our left-back problem and allowing either Rashford or Martial to partner Lukaku. Might be the way to go.
 
If he could play on the right he'd get in a lot more, Rashford looked good today so it might be hard to get in ahead of him for the Swansea match.

Great finish though, cool as you like. I hope he can also get a chance up front when Lukaku is rested.
 
West Ham afforded him way too much space. Lakuku is such a fantastic threat, he takes up 2 defenders allowing our other players a lot more freedom. I'm hoping we don't resign Ibra as shoehorning him into this team would be detrimental.
I think it's too early to say that. However, I'm not opposing you. Ibra, for all his worth last season, and I was a huge fan, did not do everything right as a main man should. Lukaku taking up defenders with him is going to be amazing this season, and Martial making such runs should be an add-on. I really want the lad to do ever so well!
 
Look at it the other way, if Martial and Rashford both play well, it'll look very awkward for Perisic. On form both of them will play ahead of him.
I'd say Jose has to cover all bases, Lakuku gets injured and we've got 2 players with no cover upfront and out on the left. We need a strong squad to compete in the league and champions league.

No, it won't. A new signing always gets a bit more leeway and usually starts. He would initially be ahead of both Rashford and Martial forcing the latter one to have to consider his future.

As for depth in case of injuries, that's what Lingard is for. I mean Jose gave him a 100k contract and started him against R.Madrid after all. Not to mention that we're negotiating to get Ibra back after he heals as back up to Lukaku.
 
If he could play on the right he'd get in a lot more, Rashford looked good today so it might be hard to get in ahead of him for the Swansea match.

Great finish though, cool as you like. I hope he can also get a chance up front when Lukaku is rested.
Though Martial can't play on the right, Rashford is very much capable of playing there. I don't think Jose is keen on playing with both at the same time though.
 
I don't know anything about Perisic but I've seen some say on here that he'd make a fine left wing-back. Which would enable a 5-3-2, thus solving our left-back problem and allowing either Rashford or Martial to partner Lukaku. Might be the way to go.

Never a left wing back. Red Nev wasn't talking like that either. Jose wants a left winger. Someone to offer an option on the outside, cross to Lukaku. Martial and Rashford are wide forwards not wingers. They like to cut in from the flank. Jose wants what he had in Di Maria at Madrid. Another player sold by Van Gaal that Jose has managed and knows how to motivate.

If Martial is willing to adapt though. To change his game to suit Jose. There won't be need to add to the squad. Martial can follow the path Hazard did under Mou. By curbing his instincts and being willing to play on the outside he can win Jose over and win us games.
 
No, it won't. A new signing always gets a bit more leeway and usually starts. He would initially be ahead of both Rashford and Martial forcing the latter one to have to consider his future.

As for depth in case of injuries, that's what Lingard is for. I mean Jose gave him a 100k contract and started him against R.Madrid after all. Not to mention that we're negotiating to get Ibra back after he heals as back up to Lukaku.

I'm sure our new defender wishes that to be true!
 
Glad to see him come on, score and assist. Hes ice cold in front of goal. One of our best finishers.
 
I don't know anything about Perisic but I've seen some say on here that he'd make a fine left wing-back. Which would enable a 5-3-2, thus solving our left-back problem and allowing either Rashford or Martial to partner Lukaku. Might be the way to go.

I don't know how much of a LWB Perisic would make. It's a popular theory in these boards, but Perisic is 28 and has never played LB. To sign a mature player for 40-50m and then immediately switch his position to a new one sounds a little bit crazy. A guy with 11 goals and 19 assists last year, that is.

Also, people in here are confusing work rate with being able to defend. Tackling, man-marking, holding the line, playing offside traps... these are things fullbacks do that Perisic has not done. I'm not saying he might not be able to do it, I'm saying that's not really an assumption you can easily make for a player when you haven't coached him or seen him play in that position.
 
Fine, fine - he's better so far. Let's keep him then.
Just needs to start looking happy.

He doesn't need to put up appearances for the fans' benefit. He'll just do his own thing. His talent speaks for itself...even if some people are oblivious to it.
 
I disagree that they are similar, at least to an extent. Can they play in similar positions? Sure. But at this point Rashford clearly provides the greater benefit off the wing, while Martial is the better secondary striker imho. Rashford seems better in cutting the defense wide open from the sides but imho lacks the positioning of Martial. Rashford brings a better constant threat - Martial is the more intelligent player at this point, his movement is great and he doesn't get caught by the offside trap nearly as much as Rashford is. Martial's biggest weakness by far is his selfishness on the ball - but if today is any indicator he has worked on that a lot in training. We truly have a luxury problem imho.

I disagree entirely. Both play best as that SS and are being played out of position wide. The difference is Martial has a polished end product and Rashford doesn't. Martial is not selfish, and the 6 assists he got last year, more than Rashford and Lingard, show that.

If anything his biggest weakness is he isn't more selfish and confident in his ability like Rashford. He hesitates sometimes in his decision making like he's not sure whether to pass or take the chance himself. Frustrating sometimes as he's got the ability to do either; he just needs to pick one. Something that will only get better with a manager who has faith in him and gives him consistent playing time.
 
I don't know how much of a LWB Perisic would make. It's a popular theory in these boards, but Perisic is 28 and has never played LB. To sign a mature player for 40-50m and then immediately switch his position to a new one sounds a little bit crazy. A guy with 11 goals and 19 assists last year, that is.

Also, people in here are confusing work rate with being able to defend. Tackling, man-marking, holding the line, playing offside traps... these are things fullbacks do that Perisic has not done. I'm not saying he might not be able to do it, I'm saying that's not really an assumption you can easily make for a player when you haven't coached him or seen him play in that position.

Ah OK. To be honest I'm open to anything that gets Martial playing up front, more centrally.
 
I think Rashford had a good game. Martial bettered it in his 10-minute cameo.

Tbf, by that time WHU heads had dropped and Zabaleta looked tired too. Still impressive by Martial, I take nothing away and I'm really pleased for him. It's just difficult to compare.

Let's say both did very very well and long may it continue.
 
Glad to see him play well, and am also desperate for him to start.

Rashford was excellent in the second half especially, but he's also very capable on the right. On current form, I'd play both wide, with Mkhitaryan in the 10.
 
That was some cameo, he'll get plenty of chances to start this season though. I really hope he keeps this form up.
 
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